Pretty sure the report in the paper said it was a Focus.
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2005 Skoda Fabia vrS
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Ive been in a car ( passenger ) on a single carriageway at 110 - scary doesnt even begin to describe it - we were four up and it was your typical experienced car salesman for who the rules dont apply - he only slowed down when we all shouted at him after he did 60 across a blind double white line corner - we all thought we were gonna die!
From then on I refused to go with him in a car unless I was driving, my manager agreed too!
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Suprised someone's not chimed in to say its perfectly safe at 11pm and car had big brake discs so could stop on a sixpence....
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it would be perfectly safe aprilia ive got my seat belt on ive got the aircon on ive got the cd on and ive got brake assist and abs, oh and my tyres are branded,i use quality diesel from a reputable garage its not a common rail diesel engine type one and i havent seen a policeman a cso or even a vosa official in days,obviously no speed bumps speed cameras or specs are in sight
hows that :-)
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You would have to know the place, the car, the driver, the time and everything else of importance to know if it was actually dangerous, unless of course you are some sort of fundamentalist or ideologue. Then you would just think automatically that it was, or wasn't.
I mean 122 is fairly rapid, but must we all behave as if it's, you know, the devil passing wind or something?
I do really hate this po-faced assumptionism. I know lots of bits of single-carriageway A road where the right machine could touch that and more without endangering anyone.
So there. Scream the place down by all means. I don't care at all.
Edited by Lud on 24/10/2007 at 23:51
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You might be happy to share the road with someone like this, I certainly am not. But then of course I speak as a lowly car user, and not a motorist like yourself.
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Edited by Dynamic Dave on 25/10/2007 at 01:56
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When caught driving at 122 mph, what the driver must never say when asked why he/she was driving at 122 mph is..... "because the damn thing won't go any fast, Officer!"
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i think what Lud is trying to say is;
one version might be....'122mph on an A road could be absolutely suicidal and most dangerous to other road users, to the extent they could easily die'
the other end of the scale could be...'potentially very dangerous, excessive speed, however no real danger caused on this occasion'...both illegal, twice the speed limit and not to be condoned.....however, ..... two different scenarios... because maybe the venue, driver/rider skill, maintenance of the vehicle, weather, time of day etc makes a difference
and before i get jumped on, i'm not suggesting it is o.k. or should be allowed, what i am suggesting is keep an open mind and not lump everything conveniently together, because life is not like that.
no doubt the driver will get a prison sentence, which a lot of crooks seem to be avoiding nowadays. Depending on the circs, he may well deserve it...but equally so he may not (but will get one anyway).
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i think what Lud is trying to say is....
twice the speed limit and not to be condoned.....however
Not quite Westpig. I do condone it provided 'no real danger is caused'.
Obviously you can't though, and no blame at all. You have very enlightened attitudes to these matters for a modern person unlike quite a few here. But I am not burdened by an official stance and come from an era that had a different (although perfectly respectable in a way) attitude to motoring laws and regulations. Even so, I wouldn't think it unfair to be done for proper speeding. The lowering of limits may be overdone sometimes (often, I tend to think) but they are evidently needed to provide a framework for the fairly carp modern average driver.
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which one of these is dangerous at 122mph on a deserted, straight, public road?
-traffic cop on police bike.......just passed his bike course and this is his first run 'in
anger'. Was weak on his course and only just passed.
-fire chief in official fire car going to a genuine emergency...has had pains in his chest
and has been meaning to go to the doctor.
- NHS driver, seconded to Blood Transfusion Service, driving marked car with blue light
delivering urgent blood supply. Had a few too many last night, is under the limit, but
feels 'rough'.
- young lad, mid 20's, on his own bike, does track days and 'knows what he's doing'.
Dad is a bike mechanic and makes sure the bike is tip top.
Three are legal, one is not. Are they all dangerous? Or maybe just the illegal one is dangerous. Or maybe each set of circumstances need to be looked at to establish the danger, if any.
I know this is a bad case of 'what if' and there is a degree of training for some of the above, which the young lad couldn't have....but i'm trying to make the point of not making automatic assumptions, which many, inc courts and the govt, often do.
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In 1980, being late for a meeting in Halifax and having beaten me to the keys of the pool car, my then boss got an indicated 115 mph down the hill to Elland in a Morris Ital.
I had white knuckles for half an hour afterwards.
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ive been up that hill to windy hill in a transit luton at 15mph
and ive been down it very fast,the bend at the bottom is scary so they have reduced it to a 40 i think
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