I have got a strange problem in my 2006 Suzuki Ignis.
I am going in 4th gear, slowing down, shifting to 2nd.
Release clutch, a "ghat" sound - gear stick jumps to NEUTRAL!
Especially acute when I'm going uphill/downhill. Sometimes happening in level ground as well.
I have checked several times, unless the car becomes too slow in 2nd gear, it always pops to neutral by itself as soon as I release the clutch.
So far, this problem happens only when downshifting to 2nd gear!
Called dealer today and gave me appointment after 10 days [car is still under warranty] - says they are fully booked otherwise.
I'm furious - bought the car just 10 days back from Suzuki delaer. Already started trouble. Previous owner was an old lady - so it is unlikely to be driven hard.
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Either knackered g/box or adjustment needed on selectors or g/box linkage.However dealer sounds useless-should be sorted same day as reported-phone the dealer principal and Suzuki UK.
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Whilst it shouldn't be doing this no matter how you treat it I wonder if you are dumping the clutch on to an idling engine when changing down?
This would enhance any of the faults JC2 mentioned.
A failed engine mount can also cause similar faults but would usually cause additional symptoms.
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I checked it again today morning. If the speedo is showing 15 mph or more after changing down to 2nd and if I release the clutch then, it shifts to neutral by itself!
Speed lower than 15 mph, it works fine on 2nd gear.
I'll chase Suzuki UK if they can make it quicker.
I'm disappointed that it happend in a 1-yr old Japanese car (or the quality really fell apart on Hungary plant?)
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movilogo,
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I'm furious - bought the car just 10 days back from Suzuki delaer. Already started trouble. Previous owner was an old lady - so it is unlikely to be driven hard.
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Unlikely to have been driven hard but could have been driven poorly.
I once had a Triumph 1300 that jumped into neutral when in reverse. When I finally got around to getting the gearbox fixed the reverse idler gear was practically worn away! I didn't do anything to cause it so it must have been the previous owner.
That car belonged to an old lady too!
Your car probably needs a new gearbox.
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"should be sorted same day as reported-phone the dealer principal and Suzuki UK."
Er, why should it? More importantly, HOW should it?
Wouldn't that mean either a) mechanics waiting around with no work on the offchance a punter reports a problem that day or b) someone's car being rather ready for collection another day rather than the day they promised?
Or is the gearbox fairy going to do it?
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Oh, and while we're on...
"I'm furious - bought the car just 10 days back from Suzuki delaer. Already started trouble."
Why 'furious' exactly? The car has a fault - it has a warranty. No coincidence there - that's why they have warranties. Happens even on new, expensive cars. Sounds like this one is at least easily diagnosed and fixed, although, unusually probably expensively for Suzuki.
Incidentally if it helps, the Hungarians managed to throw my old Swift together so badly it now has 127000 miles on it, with nothing changed other than service bits, so there may be hope yet!
If the dealer has a lead time of 10 days in the workshop, its a sign they've got a good business there and are likely to be there in the long term, maybe? Rather that than a dealer who has staff waiting around, who will be bankrupt any time soon...!
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The dealer is a combined Suzuki and Fiat dealer for new cars. They also service MG/Rover cars. The sales person told me it's the Fiat/Rover cars that keep their service people busy and not Suzuki! (may be they say different things to Fiat customers though).
Furious because I never expected a 1-yr old Jap car to have faulty gearbox (even if someone drove it poorly).
I spoke with them again (this time with the actual salesman who sold me the car) and he rang me to say they can't do it before Thursday earliest but can't provide me a courtesy car until next Saturday.
Since the car is drivable otherwise, I have no choice but to wait till next week.
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"Furious because I never expected a 1-yr old Jap car to have faulty gearbox"
Honestly! Calm down dear, its Hungarian!
Plus, things DO fail - otherwise they'd be more expensive than any of us could afford. (Have a look at Volvo's fairly dismal showing about their epidemic of very expensive electronic throttle failures on the Car by Car breakdown section if you want cheering up about Suzuki!)
As long as it gets fixed, seems fine to me. Its driveable, although no doubt inconvenient (and yes, I can think of remore combinations of circumstances where it would be dangerous, before someone else says so, but hardly so if you're aware of the fault).
Not bad cheap little cars, Suzukis. Relax and enjoy. That said, I might be inclined to ask the dealer principal why, if the workshop can do the job on Thursday, they can't organise a demonstrator/used car/hire car/whatever to use as a courtesy loan car. On the other hand, Thursday isn't so far from Saturday, so is iut worth the extra bother?
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if the last owner had the habit of holding the gearstick whilst driving or even cleaning their pipe on the sticky up bit whilst driving with a steady knock knock action (check on floor for old holbern as a giveaway) or not pushing the clutch pedal fully down prior to changing gear then the car would develop the fault you mention.
Saying that the suzuki pope mbiles (name evades me) have a habit of having a tight linkage if not checjked and this may have been the case with your car therefore a realigned linkage as said may be the quick cure or a new gearbox down the old silk road
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OK, don't panic.
The Ignis is a very well proven and reliable car - I doubt you have a major worry.
IIRC the gearshift on these is via two cables. The cables are retained by clips and the cable position is adjustable at the console end. It is quite likely that the problem can be rectified by cable adjustment - preventing engine movement on the overrun from pulling the gearbox out of gear.
Worst case could be worn selector forks or synchro sleeves, but I think this is unlikley at what I would assume is low mileage, unless the gearbox has been damaged by gross abuse. A symptom of that would be difficulty engaing gears and 'crunching' - and you don't mention that.
The gear detent is via three balls (acting on the shift selector shaft) which sit under springs behind three 'plugs' on top of the gearbox. It might be that one of the spings has snapped or is weak - easy to change (box removal not necessary).
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Went to dealer today. Tested and confirmed that synchromesh problem. They need to strip the gearbox to fix it. Will require 4 days.
Dealer agreed to provide a courtesy car but asking me pay me paying for the insurance!
Where do I stand now? Do I have to pay insurance from my own pocket? Though I'm comprehensive it doesn't cover courtesy car.
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Phone your company, if its not a budget one they'll probably sort it out as a freebie.
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After 4 days of the car being with dealer, they phoned me yesterday to let me know that they were unable to fix the problem. They have now asked a new gearbox from Suzuki!
Let me see how long does it take. They gave a me free courtesy car though.
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Well TBH that's probably the best outcome you could hope for -- if there has been abuse, this will be fixed by a brand new box.
As an aside, I have noticed that a lot of people who complain of notchy or difficult gearboxes have a tendency to dip the clutch and take the car out of gear simultaneously, rather than leaving a gap between one and t'other, meaning that the linkage/selector/synchro is under unnecessary stress. Leave that small gap, all of a sudden the box is as sweet as a nut. Not suggesting you are guilty, but it's a common driving fault.
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