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'Flat out' run - mss1tw
Random question, is there anywhere private in the UK like an old air strip or such where you can run your car up to maximum speed?

Not in a Santa Pod kind of way...I just really want to see what my car's like at 114mph (I thought it was faster than that actually, but a Google search reveals the top speed is a mere 184km/h...) without having to worry about a ban.

I don't have any trips to Germany coming up either. :o(

'Flat out' run - Kuang
There are two places in Leicestershire with extremely long straights - Bruntingthorpe proving ground (which does trackdays) has an airstrip which can apparently take the Superguppy and Hercules, and there's a large test facility just outside Hinckley (which I suspect may be private) - you can see it on google or Live maps, but I don't know anything about it other than it looks remarkably like the site Top Gear on which maxed the Veyron. There's also the Brooklands bowl, but I have no idea what the chances of getting in there are.

Of course, the other questions is how long does your car take to get to 114 - you may need a longer road than you think ;)
'Flat out' run - mss1tw
Of course the other questions is how long does your car take to get to
114 - you may need a longer road than you think ;)


Thanks for those ideas - I'm about 2 miles from Brooklands so I guess I'd have heard at some point if it was open to the public, I'll see if I can find anything out though!

Your quoted comment - Yes that's what I was trying to say but couldn't think of how to put it!
'Flat out' run - rtj70
When I joined my company, all of us grads got taken to Brooklands for a meal and museum tour (1995). We also walked the banked track :-) Back then it was in a pretty bad way.

Today isn't Brooklands where Mercedes Benz have their test track and customer centre (Mercedes World) so the track is now probably for driving their cars only.
'Flat out' run - Altea Ego
The brooklands bowl has not been driveable since the outbreak of WW2, there is about 250 yards of the weybridge bank navigable.

The local proving ground to you MSS is the M25 Junc 8 to Junc 7 at about 02:00 in the morning.

You go up the hill from junc 9 over the top at junc 8 at NSL, and then down hill to the railway bridge is camera free and no hiding space for cops with kodaks.

The touran tops out at 115 indicated (107 real) and the goona topped 118 real. Both rock solid at that speed.
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'Flat out' run - mss1tw
The local proving ground to you MSS is the M25 Junc 8 to Junc 7
at about 02:00 in the morning...


>:-)

Nice one TVM
'Flat out' run - Lud
Of course the other questions is how long does your car take to get to
114 - you may need a longer road than you think ;)


Yeah, you need a hill to help you hit yr car's advertised maximum without unseemly effort. I'd try a bit of motorway during unsocial hours, keeping eyes open and wits about you. And since 114 isn't all that fast you might just be able to slot into a line of overtaking-lane BMWs on the M4 or M40 (or equivalent) at commuter time, and pass more or less unnoticed... Of course you are probably more law-abiding or more cautious than I am.
'Flat out' run - gmac
you might just be able to slot into a line of overtaking-lane BMWs on the M4 or M40


:)) I think the M40 is the only UK motorway I've travelled the whole length of where driving faster than the national limit can still feel dangerously slow (taking care not to post any actual speeds here). The only quicker road was the M6 toll-road but I understand there are unmarked cars patrolling this now.
'Flat out' run - gmac
looks remarkably like the site Top Gear on which maxed the Veyron.


That would be VW's "secret" test track at Ehra-Lessien close to the Polish border which has a 9km straight.
'Flat out' run - gmac
Talking rubbish, it's not near the Polish border, well not if Wolfsburg is your starting point but the rest is still valid.
'Flat out' run - Kuang
Now I look at it, it has the same internal features but I'd forgotten how long and thin the german track was:

tinyurl.com/2f8mah

Just for reference, this is the one outside Hinckley in Leicestershire

tinyurl.com/29tpsd

And this is Bruntingthorpe

tinyurl.com/2g6mcg
'Flat out' run - bathtub tom
Don't forget Doctor Jonathan Palmer's place at Thurleigh, although you'd have to move a few parked cars first. Sorry I couldn't figure out how to link a satellite view.
tinyurl.com/32pfk9
'Flat out' run - milkyjoe
i was told by some old duffer down the pub that bruntingthorpe can accomadate a space shuttle on re-entry if it all goes pear -shaped at nasa , and theres a runway near madrid in spain also, urban myth or true i dont know?
'Flat out' run - Pugugly {P}
I was told Driffield was a divert field for the Shuttle - eminaently possible.
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'Flat out' run - Altea Ego
I was told that any of the US airbases that can depart fully nuclear loaded B52's could accomodate a landing space suttle, so we are looking at Lakenheath type places. But doesent the landing strip for the shuttle need to be oriented a certain driection?

Car link Lakenheath is now fully occupied with unsold new cars, as is the old british steel site at corby, and the airfield at upper heyford
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'Flat out' run - yorkiebar
Just to correct you but the old british steel site , whilst full of cars; is not full of unsold new cars. majority are ex fleet, ex hire etc. Some are also there as warranty corrections needed that have not been sold either. ie mechanics go there daily to do corrective work before car is taken to dealer for sale.

'Flat out' run - Fullchat
I was told Driffield was a divert field for the Shuttle - eminaently possible.
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PU if thats Driffield E.Yorks - runways long gone!

Elvington is a reserve landing site for the shuttle due to its increased length.
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'Flat out' run - gmac
I'd heard there was a landing strip in Spain if a launch went pear-shaped though how that would work with a big bomb strapped to the underside I can't imagine.
'Flat out' run - OldHand
When you do it-tyres inflated a few more psi than normal, everything out of the car and 98 Ron petrol/high cetane diesel.

Also you need to find some way of measuring the speed- your speedo isn't accurate.

You'd be suprised how long it takes to eke those last few mph out of it. You might need a very long run

What car is it by the way?
'Flat out' run - Lud
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You'd be suprised how long it takes to eke those last few mph out of
it.


And what an unseemly clamour it can make even with a new car. Not worth it unless you're hurtling down a motorway hill at the upper traffic speed and it just comes up. Which can happen.

Indeed under the right circumstances you may be able to exceed your car's posted limit. I'm sure I could down a hill without going anywhere near the red. In the red in top my car should be doing 150 or so. Now that would take a proper hill.

'Flat out' run - daveyjp
Elvington in York - where the Hamster crashed is another empty runway which is used for car testing.

Before Finningley became Doncaster Robin Hood the property manager needed to get commercial agents and developers to site to look at the accommodation already on site and suitable for business use so they could get some rent in. Most agents don't like travelling far for no good reason and knowing most were in Leeds he decided he needed to offer them some fun, so he decided to open the runway.

He invited various prestige car companies to bring down their fastest cars and let the agents have a blast on the 2 mile long runway.

The property manager had a go and at 140 mph in an AMG Merc he was left standing by a developer doing much more in his own BMW Alpina!!!
'Flat out' run - colinh
The NASA altenate strip is at Moron AB, located about 35 miles southeast of Seville, and has an 11,800 by 200-foot runway with 1000-foot overruns and a 50-foot asphalt-stabilized shoulders.
'Flat out' run - colinh
The NASA alternate strip is at Moron AB, located about 35 miles southeast of Seville, and has an 11,800 by 200-foot runway with 1000-foot overruns and a 50-foot asphalt-stabilized shoulders.
'Flat out' run - colinh
The NASA alternate strip is at Moron AB, located about 35 miles southeast of Seville, and has an 11,800 by 200-foot runway with 1000-foot overruns and a 50-foot asphalt-stabilized shoulders.
'Flat out' run - milkyjoe
I'd heard there was a landing strip in Spain if a launch went pear-shaped though
how that would work with a big bomb strapped to the underside I can't imagine.

doesnt carry a bomb, fortunately but as its decending from about 70 miles up at a speed of about mach#20 it could probably land in any designated landing areas
'Flat out' run - cheddar
MIRA (Motor Industry Research Association)
Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU


www.mira.co.uk/
'Flat out' run - mss1tw
I really can't see MIRA allowing some random on their track...at least not in these H&S lawsuit obsessed times.

"Oi mista, let us on ya test track"
'Flat out' run - L'escargot
I really can't see MIRA allowing some random on their track...at least not in these
H&S lawsuit obsessed times.


You'd only be allowed if you were an employee of a company registered with MIRA.

Incidentally, you do need a circuit and not a straight to get your car up to it's maximum speed and it takes umpteen miles to reach a stable condition. Even so you would find variations in speed around the circuit. Factors affecting the speed include the wind direction and speed and whether you are driving in a straight line or not. Even a banked curve reduces the speed.
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'Flat out' run - gmac
doesnt carry a bomb...


I'd like to know what they'd do with an almost full fuel tank (I know the fuel in the tank is a solid, resin like substance as was involved in the rail accident a couple of months back) but how would you jetison something that size with that kind of fuel on board from 70 miles at Mach20 ?
Especially if using the Spanish landing strip when the whole ride would only be a few minutes from take-off to landing.
'Flat out' run - David Horn


If it's over the Atlantic at the time (which it would be), then explosive bolts detach the shuttle from the SRBs and fuel tank. It either burns up in the atmosphere or splashes into the sea. If things have gone so pear-shaped that the shuttle tanks SRBs are heading towards a populated area, then an anonymous man in a little shed at Cape Canaveral pushes a button. You can see the explosives in a wavy line down the side of the SRBs.
'Flat out' run - Vin {P}
"an anonymous man in a little shed at Cape Canaveral pushes a button."

It it apocryphal that this little feller never meets the astronauts and has no feeds at all into his little hut such that he could see the reult of his pushing that button? I thought it made sense until I realised that this would all have the effect of moving the guilt one step along the chain, to the person who sent the guy in the shed the message, so he might as well have the big red button anyway, if you know what I mean.

V
'Flat out' run - milkyjoe
your missing the point, a returning space shuttle doesnt have any fuel , its basically a glider it has one attempt to land with any one of many "options" just in case it fails the designated landing zone , mach#20 ( about 15000 mph ) so its shifting , so it can adjust co-ordinates to land any where it needs to i presume ( im not a rocket scientist)
'Flat out' run - Roly93
i was told by some old duffer down the pub that bruntingthorpe can accomadate a
space shuttle on re-entry if it all goes pear -shaped at nasa and theres a
runway near madrid in spain also urban myth or true i dont know?

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I dont know about Bruntingthorpe, but the Madrid bit is absolutely correct, it was an emergency diversionary field for the shuttle, I think it was an airbase called Zafagosa.
'Flat out' run - Bromptonaut
There are two places in Leicestershire with extremely long straights - Bruntingthorpe proving ground (which
does trackdays) has an airstrip which can apparently take the Superguppy and Hercules


If you've ever seen the Herc do a tactical landing it don't need much runway - reverses back up to t/o again. Bruntingthorpe is however home ot the mighty Vulcan; hopefully to fly again soon.

See www.tvoc.co.uk - donations urgently needed.
'Flat out' run - Kuang
Bruntingthorpe is however home ot the mighty Vulcan

Indeed it is - you can see it here, along with a Super Guppy and quite an eclectic collection of other hardware :) The link will only work in IE as far as I know because it uses MS Live maps.

tinyurl.com/2me4wx
'Flat out' run - Baskerville
The link will only work in IE
as far as I know because it uses MS Live maps.


Seems ok using Firefox on Linux ...
'Flat out' run - flunky
Not in a Santa Pod kind of way...I just really want to see what my
car's like at 114mph (I thought it was faster than that actually but a Google
search reveals the top speed is a mere 184km/h...)


90bhp Megane was found to do that speed j1 of M40, after most people have already turned off onto M25.

Not hugely fast really.

And don't need that much space.
'Flat out' run - Mr.Tee43
Elvington near York.Straightliners hold meetings there throughout the year and some of these include "Run What Yer Brung".On the top speed day
you can run as fast as you can and get timed.

They do cars and bikes.

I did one of these days on a bike and it was great fun, did a standing quarter mile in 11.54 seconds on a bog standard Kawasaki Z750.Highest speed I saw was an indicated 140 or so.Some of these top boys (and girls) reach 200mph on two wheels.

straightliners.co.uk
'Flat out' run - Vin {P}
Don't do it.

Speed kills.

V
'Flat out' run - rtj70
Agree with Vin. What is the point?

I have done about 100mph at least once your honour (clocked at 97mph and went to court fined and had the points) and.... not a thrill. Didn't do it for a thrill. Tried reducing the time to drive from South Wales to Manchester a little :-) Doing 35,000 miles per year and visting family and adding to the week's drive time. During the week did not do that speed - in fact used to smile when I spotted the unmarked BMW 3 series with the police in it near Bootle coming onto the M57.

If you're seeking what it feels like to do 114mph in a straight line. Why bover ;-) Traveling at speed around corners and accelerating quickly surely more fun? Cannot remember if you still have the Toledo.
'Flat out' run - mss1tw
Agree with Vin. What is the point?


Why not?
If you're seeking what it feels like to do 114mph in a straight line. Why
bover ;-)


To see what my car feels like at its limits.

>>Cannot remember if you still have the Toledo.

Yes, which makes 'Traveling at speed around corners and accelerating quickly surely more fun?' a complete non-starter. :-P


'Flat out' run - rtj70
In a straight line... ish.... what is the point? What limits felt on any car in a straight line???? Assume the limit is it will not go faster :-)

People talk of cars on the limit but not in a straight line.
'Flat out' run - yorkiebar
114 doesnt feel any different to 100.

same as 100 doesnt feel any different to 90 etc etc etc.

A limit is only "felt" when a car is about to break its limit , ie, handling, braking, cornering etc etc.

Have fun and enjoy by all means but not on the public road please?

Join a car club and you will be invited to all sorts of places where you can drive at 114 without any worries. Try silverstone for instance on a club day when they are training marshalls etc. If any normal road car cant get to its speed limit on there then there is a problem !

Have expereienced silverstone as a co-driver in a rally car and it was most boring experience i seem to remember. Car was flat out round all bends and on straights and was no where near any break away limits. Might as well have been on a treasure hunt! But same car on a tight twisty farm track was way more exciting. Its not speed that excites, not me anyway!



'Flat out' run - Altea Ego
> 114 doesnt feel any different to 100.
> same as 100 doesnt feel any different to 90 etc etc etc.

Not true. Standard "family" production cars do have different feelings at speed. The laguna felt very planted and solid at higer speeds than it did at lower speeds. The touran however starts to feel a little twitchy at 100mph, but very planted at 90, more so that at 70.

>A limit is only "felt" when a car is about to break its limit , ie, handling, braking, cornering etc e

Agreed - thats my definition of a "limit"

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'Flat out' run - milkyjoe
the m69 is pretty straight for about 15 miles no cops or cameras as far as i recall, last time i used it was to test a honda dhoc 750 kz....agen a suzuki something or other...i won hands down standing quater mile 12.24 seconds
'Flat out' run - wotspur
concur with previous posts about the junction on the m25, 8 down to 7, or 4 down to the A21.
After recent experience of the A14 out of Bury st Edmunds long straight flat road, or how about a nice holiday to the Isle of Man, few restrictions on speed if I remeber.
My personal highest speed, was on the M23 from Gatwick down to the M25 at 4 am, 15+ years ago and it was a tad over the limit
'Flat out' run - Number_Cruncher
mss,

You could have a play with this spreadsheet to get a rough idea of how long in both time and distance it will take to approach your car's top speed.

www.gordonmckenzie.co.uk/hj/

Of course, in a mathematical sense, your car can never actually reach its theoretical top speed. Depending upon whether you prefer a torque centric or power crazed view of the world;

a) as you approach top speed the nett force (tractive effort - total drag force) becomes vanishingly small, and, so the acceleration also becomes vanishingly small

b) as you approach top speed, the available power (engine power - road load power) becomes vanishingly small, and, so does the acceleration.

Number_Cruncher
'Flat out' run - 1066
the last 10 miles of the m69 entering towards leicester is a fantastic place to try high speed runs. i ran a v12 xjs at full throttle for the entire lentgh in the early 90's. ive never seen a camera or police on that stretch.
'Flat out' run - Pugugly {P}
That would have been around a 150 mph in one of those !
'Flat out' run - 1066
i remember the fuel computer saying 4.3mpg. lovely car but cost my boss a large fortune in upkeep when things kept braking
'Flat out' run - Dynamic Dave
Don't do it.
Speed kills.


At the risk of turning this into another speeding debate (yawnnn - gets ready to move it across to one of the speeding threads) speed itself doesn't kill. Moronic lack of thought kills. Inattention kills. Impact kills. Bad driving kills. Careless pedestrians get killed. But speed itself doesn't kill.
'Flat out' run - Kuang
Reminds me of the Douglas Adams comment about the character that died of an overdose of brick wall taken under the influence of a Ferrari and a bottle of tequila :)
'Flat out' run - L'escargot
Impact kills.


I agree. Just for once, someone has got down to the nub of the matter.
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'Flat out' run - OldHand
Obviously Vin was joking when he said this but to anyone that believes it:-

I suggest you stop driving and stick to walking.
'Flat out' run - Vin {P}
I wish to make it as clear as possible that I was, in the loosest definition of the words and notwithstanding any contrary views as to the accuracy of my judgment on the humour or otherwise of the situation, joking when I said, "Speed Kills".

My sincere apologies to anyone whose irony detection systems failed to lock onto the phrase.

V
'Flat out' run - Vin {P}
Take your car for a holiday and try it here:

tinyurl.com/2cbdnd

Should be able to get to top speed with that run up.

V
'Flat out' run - gmac
I read somewhere the local authorities were cracking down on this road after a few accidents.
Porsche do/did some of their high speed testing out there.
'Flat out' run - Westpig
wouldn't fancy doing top whack on that Aussie road........imagine meeting a friendly local 'roo at anything over a hundred

the previous owner of my bike, a mate, let me ride it in the Middle East, when he owned it...but warned me not to go too mad because of camels crossing the road........didn't fancy that much either

'Flat out' run - Jonwm {P}
My other half lives in Solihull and i see her most nghts usuallly leaving after 11pm, the m42 is often empty, unless its a sunday night and its rammed? random! I can usually cruise at 120mph and the car feels fine, and people are doing the same or not alot less obviosuly i'm not doing this speed if its raining or cars around, but as you get to junction 1 going west bound down the hill the Saab easisly hits alot higher than this and feels pretty stable.

I'm a great beliver that speed in the wrong hands is dangerous, I class myself as a pretty good driver, i drive alot of miles and if feeling a little tired or in "businees Mode" during the day i often drive alot slower than most.

My car is maintained to the highest levels and tyres are checked and replaced when they are 2mm, I wouldn't even take my proton on the motorway due to fear of somethnig coming off at speed!!

I have also been to court for 86mph in a 50mph, it ws in Bala in wales, clear road for about 3 miles, police parked behind tree in about 1998, 5 points, 1 more and i would have lost my licence!!

Very scary at the time

Jon
'Flat out' run - OldHand
You mean 120kph of course don't you, or 120 leptons or 120 idiotspeedcameras- not 120mph. Otherwise you are incriminating yourself and there have been many cases of the police/cps using this sort of evidence against people. You made a mistake didn't you?
'Flat out' run - Vin {P}
Oldhand: "there have been many cases of the police/cps using this sort of evidence against people"

Really? That would amaze me. In court, under oath, "I was bragging, where's your evidence?"

V
'Flat out' run - OldHand

There was a case recently of a man driving a VX220 who was arrested due to bragging about driving at in excess of 150mph on an internet forum. He hasn't been convicted as far as I know.

Just in case the police are reading this: I'd like to state for the record that I've driven in excess of 160mph on the public road.


However as it was not in the UK you can stick the law where it will best fit.

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'Flat out' run - Vin {P}
Ok, in that case, I am stating here formally that I have driven a car on public UK roads at 670mph. At rush hour. In the rain. With my eyes shut. On the wrong carriageway.

Let's see how that looks in court.

V
'Flat out' run - mss1tw
Ok in that case I am stating here formally that I have driven a car
on public UK roads at 670mph.


Why did you stay in 4th? :-S
'Flat out' run - Pugugly {P}
Vin,

Some people will be along in a minute to have a go at you for breaking the law you know.


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'Flat out' run - Altea Ego
Ok in that case I am stating here formally that I have driven a car
on public UK roads at 670mph. At rush hour. In the rain. With my eyes
shut. On the wrong carriageway.


And I was behind you, flashing my lights, blaring my horn, and you *still* wouldnt get out the way.
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'Flat out' run - gmac
I don't know if it will stand up in court but the person making the posting might find a few unmarked cars in that area around that time of day.
I have read insurance companies also look at these sites though how they tie a username back to a policyholder I've no idea ?
Unless they have some newlabour rights to the data.
'Flat out' run - normd2
in reply to gmac:
bit off topic but I loved reading about the guy last year that advertised his Astra on e-bay. It was modded with a 2-litre turbo engine but as the advert said '...registered as a 1.4 so cheap insurance'. The pictures included his reg number which went down a treat when a local policeman saw the ad and investigated.
'Flat out' run - gmac
Brilliant ! There are some brain donors on fleaBay.
The guy selling his dining suite, photographing it from across the room with a mirror in the background and him in his birthday suit is a classic.
Stunningly attractive 20-something women never get caught out like this though, it's always some beer-bellied, middle aged guy.
'Flat out' run - OldHand
It sounds comical doesn't it, but there are quite a few documented cases of the police reading message boards and arresting people as a result of information they themselves have confessed.

Probably less risk of that here for various reasons but imagine a situation where someone uses the same name on many boards or discloses personal information about themselves. It wouldn't be that difficult to cross reference these and be able to build up a circumstancial case. Add to that the way some people crack when in an interview room and I'd advise anyone against making claims they may later regret.........
'Flat out' run - Pugugly {P}
Ultimately you can still be accountable to Investigatory Authorities if you coughed anything on here. It would be a reasonably simple process for members to be traced via their registered e-mail accounts which the site could be required to disclose. One of the reasons for the Moderation Regime. Wouldn't want HJ to be implicated in anything would we ?
'Flat out' run - mss1tw
>>Wouldn't want HJ to be implicated in anything would we ?

He didn't seem too fussed about showing me how quickly a Veyron he'd stolen got to 200mph :-o ;-P
'Flat out' run - Sim-O
You mean 120kph of course don't you or 120 leptons or 120 idiotspeedcameras- not 120mph.
Otherwise you are incriminating yourself and there have been many cases of the police/cps using
this sort of evidence against people. You made a mistake didn't you?


I've seen people say this before, but surely the police can investigate you, but still need proof that you've actually done it, rather than just boasting. Because, what about and I cannot link to any examples, when someone confesses to a serious crime, they don't just take the confessees word for it do they? They take a statement and look into it make sure it all adds up and the confessee isn't trying to take the rap for Mr Big. Otherwise they could do anybody for anything? How many people would wind up in chockey for boasting? Doesn't bear thinking about!?!
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'Flat out' run - Pugugly {P}
Sim,

I think you'll find proportionality is everything. If someone admitted to using their car for a crime on here i.e. "I bundled the body of the F**d salesman in the boot of my new Mondeo" and such a case actually existed nationally you may find that the BiB might be interested. But uncorroborated boasts
of exceeding the speed limit would probably draw little interest if a Police Officer happened upon it, I
doubt very much whether the CPS would be at all interested. Chances of successfully convicting someone saying " On Sunday afternoon at 2.00pm I got 163 mph out of my Swigglesworth Mk10 on the A33 near the Mangecastle gyratory system" are slim to non-existent - but say that as a result of a Swigglesworth doing this speed on that day someone had crashed in fright there may be some interest shown. I know my local Police regularly trawl t'internet for intel, check certain networking sites out and tell me that there isn't potentially actionable stuff there.
'Flat out' run - Stargazer {P}
I have an old 'wheels' magazine article around here somewhere, they were trying to max out a very expensive Merc sometime in the late ninetys by taking it to the Northern Territory (no speed limits), unfortuantely they hit an emu when approachig maximum speed...it wasnt pretty.

Dont even think if trying it at night, as Westpig says, after dusk the roos come out to play!

StarGazer
'Flat out' run - Altea Ego
I ve done highway 1 across the Nullabor Plain, and as the previous poster said, if a big red decides to pop out at 100mph+ you are history. In practise its only at dusk, night and dawn they are really active, but you never know. Its a strange road, it induces mind numbness and hallucinations after an hour of no wheel twirling.
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'Flat out' run - normd2
have a look in any of the motor sport or sports car type magazines, Fast Fords, Fast Car, Practical Performance etc etc and you'll find adverts for 'run what ya brung' meetings. It's exactly what it says on the tin - any car or bike can have a go. Nearest to me for example is an old airfield runway in Fife owned by a local farmer, Crail Raceway. The other option is a pukka race circuit such as Knockhill that does track days. Be aware that your standard insurance will not cover you and if you find yourself exceeding your or the car's capabilities you'd better hope you hit something soft.....
'Flat out' run - Muggy
What about Crowthorne? Is it possible to get in there at a price? Not necessarily for speed purposes, but for more general practice and similar...
'Flat out' run - Cliff Pope
Pendine sands, out of season. If you crash the car, just bury it.
'Flat out' run - Altea Ego
No more room, loads of cars under the sands. Rumoured to be a couple of aircraft under there to.
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'Flat out' run - Cliff Pope
No, following a recent exhumation, there is now a vacancy.
'Flat out' run - james86
I'd be intrigued to hear about documented cases of speeding prosecutions from posting on a public forum. First, as said earlier there is very little to no chance of achieving a succesful prosecution without some evidence (unless there was for example a major accident of which this speed was a cause). Second, it is not nearly as easy as people often think to conclusively link an email address to an actual person. Whether it can be done at all varies according to the type of address (eg is it one provided by your home ISP) but it very often cannot be linked. In a bigger or more serious crime there are other ways to track people (via IP addresses and such) but those are not easy either and to my knowledge only used for things like child pornography type cases and possibly some larger incidences of piracy. Unless there is a PO with a particular reason to "want to get you" (for want of better words!) it seems like overkill to trace people like this.
'Flat out' run - Pugugly {P}
Well I was talking about the salesman in the boot scenario - that is still a serious offence :-)
'Flat out' run - jc2
The MIRA straights at Hinkley are much too short even for vehicles with modest performance.
'Flat out' run - Number_Cruncher
The MIRA straights at Hinkley are much too short even for vehicles with modest performance.


Ideal for braking and coastdown testing though.

Number_Cruncher
'Flat out' run - jc2
Not even long enough for a 120 to zero kph in one go;had to do 120 to 60 then 80 to zero-the overlap was there to check the shape of the coastdown graph.The best road in Europe for roadload/coastdown testing was a stretch of motorway near Seville.
'Flat out' run - Number_Cruncher
Mmm, for a couple of reasons, the vehicle we were using didn't present us with that problem!

One of the enjoyable features of the test car we were using was a valve which enabled the front or rear brakes to be switched out at will. Braking using only the rear brakes was "leisurely" to say the least!

Number_Cruncher
'Flat out' run - rtj70
You'd be surprised what big brother is up to all of the time these days though. Say the wrong words on the telephone and you might get a knock at the door as GCHQ have lots of computers doing voice analysis etc. Something to do this a project called ECHELON I think and is the reason why the NSA run the likes of Menwith Hill - the UK cannot phone tap on this scale but the NSA side-steps this. GCHQ employ something like 15,000 people and spend £500m a year! So they probably do trawl all websites like this one and react if there is something serious and it will mostly be automatic searching. Speeding don't count though.

Likewise aren't most cameras on the roads now linked up to ANPR - if not already they will be soon.
'Flat out' run - Pugugly {P}
That's me done for then, I have to flog the Swigglesworth.
'Flat out' run - Westpig
too late PU......ink's not dry on the warrant, we're coming in tomorrow morning
'Flat out' run - gmac
You'd be surprised what big brother is up to all of the time these days


Even down to something as innocuous as using an internet search engine. Cookies are used however, I read a report this week in Business Weekly where one of the famous search engines (lets call it Gargle for the sake of a name) stores your search string and IP address for upto two years so they can supposedly target you with relevant adverts.
For example if you do a search for a car manufacturer or car sales paper, they will target you with car adverts.
'Flat out' run - OldHand
An example for some of the people who don't believe that the authorities aren't interested in forum disclosures.

www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=16342

Slightly different case this one in that he posted photos but imagine you post here that you've done 140mph in rush hour. Then the police get your IP details, trace you through them and then interrogate your cars ECU which reveals you did in fact drive at that speed at a certain time. They'd have evidence with a confession to back it up. Cars retaining this sort of information are getting more and more common.

That's just one scenario for you. There are many others I can think of.
'Flat out' run - rtj70
In the States, and probably here, black boxes in cars have been around a while. Driver beware. Might only record until an accident but all info on speed, breaking, steering input, seat belts, etc. recorded.... Big brother for sure.
'Flat out' run - Muggy
That would work both ways though; if you are doing 59 in a 60 and an LTI 20/20 [ for example ] claims you were doing 80 then the black box would prove you weren't...
'Flat out' run - rtj70
Except they continually over-write old data and only hold a few minutes worth. In an accident it stops writing and preserves the data from the minutes before. No way it would hold enough old data for what you suggest. And how many of us have the correct conputer hardware to read them anyway :-)
'Flat out' run - OldHand
Looking at a car like our Golf and RS4 you can interrogate the ECU to see what maximum boost levels it has met, in which gear and the maximum revs achieved. These levels are also timestamped and you can read them with a £150 cable and bit of software.

I use them to fine tune the adjustable mapping but I could also use them to prove that I'd driven at say 240kph and at what time/day if so required.

I'm guessing this goes for all VAG cars and probably quite a few other marques
'Flat out' run - Jonwm {P}
Hi

After a day in the garage looks like the wrong,values were entered in my previous post, i can't remember the name of the garage i visited but they have showed me on the settings how to illuminate both the Km and MPH so on the old flat out run i can get often with no traffic 74.56mph, so chuffed i got that little speeding issue cleared up.

J
'Flat out' run - barchettaman
....114 doesnt feel any different to 100.....

The Astra is fine at and indicated 100. Anything over 120 and the front end goes very light indeed.
Contrast with an old 3.0 Senator we borrowed, that got better the faster you went (I ran out of bottle at 245kmh).

The A5 south of Frankfurt runs arrow-straight to Darmstadt (about 20 km), is 8 lanes wide, and a good place to see if your tyres will cope with the theoretical maximum speed of your car :-)
I´m pretty sure the MG racers set category speed records on it between the wars.