I can get, for example, GM fully-synth 5W-40 for about £2/litre (25L drum for £50) - and that is the trade discounted price DELIVERED!
Mark up on oil in UK stores must be very high, I often wish I'd got into oil retailing. The price of the specialist stuff (AMSoil, RedLine) is just stupid - in fact I have bought it cheaper from the US (even with shipping it undercuts what the UK distributors want to charge).
I have also posted on here about buying parts from dealers in Aus and NZ - some of the differences are staggering, e.g. Mitsi idle stepper valves are about £400 from UK dealer, Kempy's in Auckland, NZ, sell them for about £120 inc. air shipping to UK - on my doorstep 5 days after ordering. Something wrong somewhere........
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>>How come Costco can sell Mobil1 for £23 <<
My guess is they are flexing some American retail muscle or just using their US network to obtain it at these prices - appreciating the fact your question may have been hyperthetical and querying UK retailers rather than Costco.
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My guess is they are flexing some American retail muscle or just using their US network to obtain it at these prices - appreciating the fact your question may have been hyperthetical and querying UK retailers rather than Costco.
I doubt that there much cross border trading, and it certainly isn't US product (oil there is generally sold in US Quarts).
I think Aprilia's explanation is more likely - if it was a US muscle thing, then Asda would be able to sell it very cheap as Walmarts oil prices are very low.
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Good point about walmart - and I have to agree with your logic Bill
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if you guys really want to know, it is to do with local conditions such as taxation, vat, cost of land/property, labour costs, etc. etc.etc. etc.
just try and buy an equivalent house or get an equivalent job in those countries (oz, nz, usa, whatever) and compare the "money".
economists have a term for it "pruchasing power parity". (look it up in a search engine).
this is why microsoft can charge 400 uk pounds for the same box of software that it sells in the us for 400 us dollars.
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PPP may explain some of the difference but I very much doubt it can explain it all. I suspect it's more of a 'We'll charge what we think we can get away with' attitude going on.
Very similar IMO to the SMMT and UK car prices of the past.
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remember the fuss when Asda tried to sell Branded jeans at cheap prices .. and were forced to up their price?
I am sure Mobil operate the same price gouging policy.
After all remember UK car prices only 10 years ago?
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Might be cheap for some diesel oils.
But I have never been able to find oil for a PDI VW in any hypermarket in France.
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I wasna fu but just had plenty.
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if you guys really want to know, it is to do with local conditions such as taxation, vat, cost of land/property, labour costs, etc. etc.etc. etc. just try and buy an equivalent house or get an equivalent job in those countries (oz, nz, usa, whatever) and compare the "money".
I can buy those aruguments for the US etc, but not for France, which was the original point.
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I can buy those aruguments for the US etc, but not for France, which was the original point.
1. the market will charge what the market will bear.
2. national high-street chain shop prices will tend to be higher than massive out-of-town-cash&carry "traders" stores.
3. france in general has a lower cost-of-living than uk in general as the table here (2004 figures being the latest available) shows:
tinyurl.com/2dde77
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3. france in general has a lower cost-of-living than uk in general as the table here (2004 figures being the latest available) shows: tinyurl.com/2dde77
That's GDP (expressed in PPS) - look at the huge differences between regions of the UK. That's not surprising for GDP, but it doesn't affect how much things cost in 2 different branches of Tesco.
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Interesting... I am paying exactly the same as Aprilia for the same oil on a trade basis but in 5l cans which happens to suit me.
My supplier does retail too and is currently just a few pence over the French price for the fully syn mentioned.
So it must all be down to markup.
DW
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Costco = £11.xx for 4 ltrs of Chevron Fully Synthetic
Cheaper than a 500 mile trip to Calais (from Scotland)
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Costco = £11.xx for 4 ltrs of Chevron Fully Synthetic Cheaper than a 500 mile trip to Calais (from Scotland)
Yes good stuff.I am now running my Mazda on it.
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I tried that and didnt rate it. I found that when I did an oil change with mobil 1 or another quality fully synthetic oil the engine seemed to be smoother. When I used the chevron it wasnt.
I understand that a lot of teh cheaper stuff isnt 'proper' fully synthetic. I dont pretend to understand the details of oil technology, but apparently there are several different things that could be called synthetic and they are not all equal.
If anyone is a tribiologist and could give a simple answer.....?
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My supplier does retail too
Can you say who (or at least what sort of supplier) they are?
Even places like www.opieoils.co.uk who deliver by courier and give discounts for members, now look expensive on branded oil. I used them for Motul in the past, but I buy Mobil1 from Costco now.
I would like to find a low cost source of MB229.51 (for EU4 diesels) oil.
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Even places like www.opieoils.co.uk who deliver by courier and give discounts for members, now look expensive on branded oil.
Indeed - I have looked at their prices!
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Just an enterprising local town independent motor factors with a retail (but heavily discounted) shop in Cambridgeshire.
DW
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3. france in general has a lower cost-of-living than uk in general as the table here (2004 figures being the latest available) shows: tinyurl.com/2dde77
Yes, must be the 35 hour week and all those 'high social costs' that we hear so much about keeping prices, er, ......down?
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>>Yes, must be the 35 hour week and all those 'high social costs' that we hear so much about keeping prices, >>er, ......down?
Except when going to a bar for a beer, 25cl of pression is often 3 euros, which is £4.86 per pint! Buy from a supermarket and it is 30p but warm.
A New Holland combine, the yellow ones, are made in Belgium. In the UK they cost £200,000, in New Zealand they cost £100,000.
The last time I went on a booze cruise to Calais I got done for overloading the van by 350kgs. They even weighed my pal and me, he is about 20 stone and I am a bit lighter. It cost me about a £500 fine and I had to offload the extra weight, the drink that is not my pal, and go back to pick it up from Medway services, we put it in a Travelodge room. I reckon Majestic is the best place to get my booze, they will even deliver it.
Clothes are cheap in the USA, they even do them in my size, and bigger.
Quite what all this has got to do with French oil prices I don't know.
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I buy all my clothes in Germany. They are readily available in my size (XXXL) and a good deal cheaper than UK.
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