"Motorists may have witnessed the world's costliest car crash"
Doubt that. I'm pretty sure a multiple-car pile up in fog that kills half a dozen people and closes and entire motorway for several hours would cost more than 800k.
TVM's bus crash probably wasn't far behind.
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That made the local press too.
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Was it a bendy bus?
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Seems to be some duff reporting here.
The Sun talks of "almost as much power as an F1 car" whereas in fact power and torque from this large quad turbocharged engine crucify the smaller, frenetic revving, naturally aspirated F1 car.
There is also mention of it happening on a 40MPH limited B road when in fact the second of the two "autoblog" photos clearly show a NSL sign that looks like a repeater not a first indication of limit change. ie the car didn't cross a 40 to 60 speed limit change during the accident. Saving the image and then enlarging it also points to an A road as written on the sign, not a B road.
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If the touran wasnt laid up again, I could drive round and check out the locationf or you SJB, as its just round the corner.
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"as its just round the corner"
So walk you lazy oaf.
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BBD - TVM's may have been costly - if only in terms of the collective memory of the BR !
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There is also mention of it happening on a 40MPH limited B road when in fact the second of the two "autoblog" photos clearly show a NSL sign that looks like a repeater
That doesn't look like a repeater sign to me - surely it's a normal start of speed limit sign?
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Bendy bus?
not before the accident it wasnt
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>>Bendy bus?
>>not before the accident it wasnt
Just bent after the accident. LOL.
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A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.
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See how I selflessly lined that one up for you.
You're welcome.
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....Was it a bendy bus?....
It was pretty bent by the time RF had finished with it.
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Doubt that. I'm pretty sure a multiple-car pile up in fog that kills half a dozen people and closes and entire motorway for several hours would cost more than 800k.
The biggest UK payout for an accident was 3/4 years ago (IIRC) the chap in the Land Rover towing a car trailer who dozed off. went off the motorway down an embankment, collided with a London Bound Express which in turn was hit by a coal train - 7/8 killed, many injured - the payout was reckoned to be nearly £45 million.
Since then bridges across railways, other road have been strengthened or additional barriers put in.
The Land Rover Insurer would have been bankrupt but they had stop loss insurance and another larger re-insurer paid out to those affected
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I very much doubt £45m would have bankrupted Fortis.
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28th February 2001. 13 killed and 50 injured.
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Doubt that. I'm pretty sure a multiple-car pile up in fog that kills half a dozen people and closes and entire motorway for several hours would cost more than 800k.
I swear I saw a TV program on such an occurence years ago
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Who in their right mind would pay £20,000 a day to rent one?
The story going around is that the driver didn't pay as he was the brother of the owner - hence there's some doubt about the insurance cover.
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The b375 runs from Chertsey to Shepperton. From Chertsey to Chertsey bridge its all 30 or 40 mph. Past Chertsey bridge towards shepperton, there are periods of NSL From the view it looks like the NSL end towards
Shepperton. Funnily enough there are lots of cowboy body repairers (and some ringing operations in the past) dotted along that stretch of the road.
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Well that might account for the reported appearance of an irate 4x4 driver shortly after the accident.
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Veyron is a 4WD, but I bet the old Landie's quicker over a field !
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Looking at the pictures of the damaged Veyron, I doubt if it's a write off. Okay the front is badly damaged but from the A pillars back it looks okay and for a car capable of 253mph it's going to have a strong chassis etc.
But my main reason for thinking it's not a write off, if the normal rules apply on value of vehicle vs cost of repairs then a Veyron probably could take significant damage before the cost of repairs become too high. If the car was worth only £800k then surely if the repairs are "only" £200k it's worth the insurer doing this surely? I bet VW/Bugatti could rebuild the car entirely if they wanted.
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BBC now running the story with slightly fewer 'facts' than contained in the Sun article.
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BBC now running the story with slightly fewer 'facts' than contained in the Sun article.
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and some photos
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Just to put a spanner in the works, was it not the Veyron which , allegedly, was costing £2m each to make but they were doing this as a loss maker just to prove a point that the car could be made?
So if it cost £800k to buy but Bugatti are saying it costs £2m to make, then it could be an interesting conversation with the insurance company!
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A few years back one of the Maclaren supercars was written off by the owner, who sadly died in the accident.
Not long ago the Sunday Times magazine had an article on supercar crashes. Some of the pictures were horrific including one car that was nothing more than small pieces of debris on a mountain road. Surely in this country a speed hump could write off a Veyron, or at least leave it stranded?
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BobbyG, interesting if that is the case.
And what of the usual "to be put back in the same position before the accident" - if they only build 300 cars it's not as if they can build an extra one. This raises interesting questions for such exotic cars if you expect to drive it without worrying about thefts or accidents.
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... And what of the usual "to be put back in the same position before the accident" ..
isn't there a flaw in there somewhere? (hint - 100% innocent first party, but third party 100% to blame - geddit?)
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"isn't there a flaw in there somewhere? "
Don't think so or am I missing your point. If you're fully comp, then you should be able to get (minus excess) either the money for the same age/spec/etc. car or even the car. If you're not to blame you then get the excess back from the 3rd party, as do your insurers. But if only 300 cars ever built you'd never get another one....
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.. Don't think so ..
rtj70 - you need to brush up on elementary gcse law.
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Perhaps you could tell us what the flaw is, rather than just making vague hints at it.
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BobbyG, I've found a reference that if you divide Veyron production/design/development costs by number of cars, each should have been £5m! This not the cost to make but the true cost if VW don't absorb the cost of new technologies etc.
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The Veyron is already on
www.wreckedexotics.com/
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Whether true but the transporter and driver that delivered the car recently... also took the wreck away ...
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FWIW, I think it looks pretty naff in that red / black colour mix!
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Me too - how can they spoil a thing of such beauty like that??
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Absolutely. Looks like a million dollar Smart ForFour.
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more details of the crash,
preview.tinyurl.com/yt9cqb
including info about driver, brother, father, 2 sisters, ages, house, business, age, sex, location, good sense of humour, single, prefers quiet nights in watching top-gear now that car is wrecked, etc.
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more details of the crash, preview.tinyurl.com/yt9cqb including info about driver, brother, father, 2 sisters, ages, house, business, age, sex, location, good sense of humour, single, prefers quiet nights in watching top-gear now that car is wrecked, etc.
Wow. The sheer volume of utterly irrelevant drivel in that story is quite breath-taking.
You can almost hear the page shrieking at you. SHE WAS PREGNANT!!!!! WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!! THEY SHOULD BE STRUNG UP!!!!!!!
I'm just amazed it didn't accuse them of being illegal immigrants and suggest the whole family was deported.
Although, it's still beaten by the first comment I saw below it:
"I would imagine that whoever was driving this car has always had what he has always wanted and been a spoilt brat for the whole of his life. He will never change and should be banned from driving permanently."
How delightfully well thought out. He's probably spolit (although I have no evidence for this) Ban the swine.
Sometimes, people just make me sad.
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Surely the most damning point made in that report was that the Veyron is "French made "
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