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Petrol problems - Diesal dan
I have always been lead to believe petrol sold at JET stations was lower octane than others due to the fact it is reclaimed from the over run at the refineries

Petrol problems - Hamsafar
LOL!
Petrol problems - Diesal dan
Ashok can you give me any technical details to disprove this please, I am very intertested as the man who told me this is BSc scientist with BP/SHELL exploration Dept
Petrol problems - PR {P}
Jet (ConcocPhillips) own one of the 5 refineries in the UK on the Humber. Your friend is factually worng on so many levels. All 95 RON petrols have the same octane number, or they wouldnt be 95.
Petrol problems - Hamsafar
The law gives the minimum RON of 95 for 95 RON petrol.
If it was any less they'd be in trouble.
There is no such thing as an "over run" (if by that you mean end of run), they run all year long 24/7 and when they are shut down after a number years, they are shut for months and rebuilt so that they will run again for years, just like a power station, it's a continuous process.
Petrol problems - local yokel
It's great how these myths start, te the pumps should/used to state clearly the BS no. of the fuel it dispenses, so if it meets the BS, how can it have been rejected?
Petrol problems - Altea Ego
Its a well known fact.

Petrol when made has 100 rons, but only needs to be 95 rons. They end up with 5 rons per gallon left over, and this is what they sell at Jet,
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Petrol problems - No FM2R
Actually TVM you're out of date. They've now developed machines which can make petrol with only 90 rons. Then theyadd the 5 rons left over agfter they've sold the other stuff so that it has 95 rons in it. Trouble is it takes up more space and so it overflows, which is why you always see puddles of fuel on the floor at cheaper fuel stations.
Petrol problems - Armitage Shanks {p}
What knowledge would an exploration scientist (Geologist) have that would be relevant to the refining and distribution process? The whole thing is another urban myth IMHO. If it is 95 Ron and matches or exceeds the relevant BS then it meets the minumum legal standard to be sold to the public.
Petrol problems - madf
Does the BS referred to above refer to "cow excrement" ?....cos that's what it is.:-)

Next we'll have the Sunday Sport headlines "B25 bomber landed on the moon" .


madf
Petrol problems - mjm
TVM, No FM2R, will you stop it, I've now got to clean bits of buttered scone from the monitor and the keyboard!

LOL.

Why do they have so many people called Ron working at the refinery anyway? No wonder people get confused.
Petrol problems - Dalglish
oi, yes oi, don't forget that if you don't like ron, you can have mon and/or pon.
note - pon is the measure of the pong that is given out when you have a duff cat.

www.sae.org/technical/papers/2001-01-3584

OI = RON - KS where K is a constant for that condition and S is the sensitivity, (RON-MON), and RON and MON are the Research and Motor Octane numbers respectively. The higher the octane index, the better the anti-knock quality of the fuel. K is often assumed to be 0.5 so that OI=(RON+MON)/2. However, it is found that K depends on engine operating conditions and in some cases, K is negative so that for a given RON, a fuel with higher sensitivity (lower MON) has better anti- knock quality. The value of K decreases as the engine becomes more prone to knock, i.e., as its octane requirement increases. In terms of the end-gas properties, K decreases as the temperature decreases for a given pressure.
Petrol problems - No FM2R
I love it when he talks dirty.....
Petrol problems - Dalglish
I love it when he talks dirty.....


that's when you mon in pleasure.


Petrol problems - Hillfly
So what I can understand from this is that I need MORONS in my fuel?
There's plenty of them about so shouldn't be a problem : )
Petrol problems - Dalglish

www.btinternet.com/~madmole/Reference/RONMONPON.ht...l

Petrol problems - local yokel
This was all very clearly explained by that great 60s band of female Chemistry students, the Chrystals:



I met him on a Monday and my heart stood still
Da Doo Ron Ron, Da Doo Ron Ron
Somebody told me that his name was Bill
Da Doo Ron Ron, Da Doo Ron Ron

Yeah my heart stood still
Yeah his name was Bill
And when he walked me home
Da Doo Ron Ron, Da Doo Ron Ron

Yeah he looks so fine
Yeah I'll make him mine
And when he walked me home
Da Doo Ron Ron, Da Doo Ron Ron
Petrol problems - rover 75
There is a basis in truth for this statement , when Jet was introduced in the early 60s it was cheap and lower octane , at the time there was more variety in fuels you could have a tiger in your tank from Esso or alcohol from Cleveland Driscol ica from Shell etc .
Petrol problems - Gromit {P}
I'm not sure what your friend means by over-run.

As said above, refinaries run a continuous process (the steady state of a chemical process is a predictable thing; starting up or shutting down can give rise to entirely different process control problems!) so there's no such thing as end-of-batch 'over-run' petrol to use up. Besides, ConcocPhillips supply many retailers other than JET.

If, instead, he means the bit of the crude oil left when the gasoline fraction is removed, well, yes, JET (and everyone else) sell this 'over-run' too. Its called Diesel :-)
Petrol problems - Round The Bend
TVM is right apart from fact that two of the Rons were leased to Hale & Pace, that leaves only three for Jet!
Petrol problems - Falkirk Bairn
All refinery owners supply themselves and everyone else virtually in that area.

Without this "sharing" Esso would be running tankers from Southampton to Inverness and ConcocPhillips would be running theirs from Lincolnshire to Cornwall.

The petrol is the same - the additives are different for the major brands.