2.0 tdi se 2004
45 average - mainly short runs (4-5 miles), mostly full - with roofbox.
very good
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Sister -in -law has "54" reg 2.0 TDI Touran from new.Not sure of economy, but it is reliable.It is also standing up well to the abuse of three under five year olds.
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> I'm thinking more 1.8 as it does all I need. I have REALLY slowed down now I have an 8 week old baby!!! The 2.0 would be nice but not sure the extra power would be needed.
I've driven the 1.8D S-Max and while it was fine at cruising speeds, you really feel the weight of the car (1700kg) getting there, especially if you have to join a motorway from a short, uphill sliproad like the one at J12 on the M40 - which is part of my test route for precisely that reason. My guess is that the 2.0D would dispatch that with no trouble, and would be happier trundling in traffic in 3rd, with fewer drops to 2nd. Overall, a more relaxing experience rather than a faster, more frantic one - you may find it suits your slowed-down self (and your baby) better. I suspect real-world consumption would be similar too, since you'd be working the 2.0D less hard. (My test drive was with two aboard; seven-up, I really wouldn't fancy the 1.8D.)
Another factor to consider - my layman's guess is that the used market will view the 2.0D Zetec as the S-Max to have, and will regard most of the Titanium extras, and especially the X Pack, as disposable gimmickry, so you should be really sure you want them before you pay the extra. The Zetec also has a fairly firm ride even on 16" wheels; 18" on a Titanium X might be more than your baby will tolerate!
Just my thoughts, of course.
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Another factor to consider - my layman's guess is that the used market will view the 2.0D Zetec as the S-Max to have, and will regard most of the Titanium extras, and especially the X Pack, as disposable gimmickry, so you should be really sure you want them before you pay the extra. The Zetec also has a fairly firm ride even on 16" wheels; 18" on a Titanium X might be more than your baby will tolerate! Just my thoughts, of course.
I appreciate your thoughts, that's why I asked.
I have only driven a S-Maz on 17" wheels and that was fine. My current car is a 320d with lowered suspension and 17" wheels and I don;t suppose that an S-Max on 18" will be any less comfortable than that.
I have now narrowed my selections down to car, trim and options. Your inputs, as ever, are most welcome. Bear in mind I am a 40,000 miles a year driver, mostly motorways driving with a bit of central London thrown in. Both the Touran and S-Max are big enough for me so please don;t maek the Touran down on size. Thanks
Option 1:
VW Touran 2.0 TDI SE Manual ? Includes, Climate Control, Cruise Control, Heated Leather Seats, Privacy Glass, Ipod Controller, Rear Parking Sensor, Auto-Dimming Rear View Mirror, Auto Wipers, Auto Headlights, Headlight Washers, Metallic Paint, 16? Alloys
Option 2: (£30/Month more than Option 1)
VW Touran 2.0 TDI SE Automatic ? Includes Climate Control, Cruise Control, Privacy Glass, Ipod Controller, Rear Parking Sensor, Auto-Dimming Rear View Mirror, Auto Wipers, Auto Headlights, Headlight Washers, Metallic Paint, 16? Alloys. (SAME AS ABOVE EXCEPT LEATHER SEATS HAVE BEEN SWAPPED FOR AUTO)
Option 3: (£39/Month more than Option 1)
Ford S-Max 1.8 TDCi Titanium X Pack ? Includes Climate Control (independent controls for left/right), Cruise Control, Privacy Glass, Ipod Controller, Front Parking Sensors, Rear Parking Sensors, Auto Dimming rear view mirror, Auto Wipers, Heated Front Windscreen, Advanced Headlights (they bend around corners), Metallic Paint, 18? Alloys, Leather/Alcantara Seats, Panoramic Roof, Bluetooth Telephone Control.
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Ok my thoughts on my touran. 1.9 TDI SE 7s with added dual zone Climate control.
It rides and handles better than it has a right to, given the height. The handling is very very good indeed and the ride is never really anything other than smooth and level (you may find the sport handling a little jiggly and firm.
It has so much space and flexibility you will never ever complain its not big enough. Its subdued around town but slightly noisy at 70mph. The aerodynamics are appaling. Above 30mph you cant have the windows open (even a crack) as the internal buffeting and pressure change frequencies is painful on the ears. Above 70mph the fule consumption falls alarmingly. Again it depnds on the aerodynamics. With the wind behind you can get 54mpg at 68mph, the same journey the other way with the wind against it drops to 43, Go above 75 and you are in sub 40mg territory.
The rear hatch is too big, you have to let the windows down before it can be shut. The climate control is the biggest waste of space I have ever used, utterly incapabable of maintaining any temperature, surpsing you by suddenly chilling you. Below 5c in the deisel the auxilory heater will poisen you with smoke and fumes before the car warms up (so much smoke people enquire if its on fire)
Unless the revamp has put a screen over it, the aircon will suck a stone into the low and open mounted condensor and land you with a £800 bill. (happens so much that condensors are now common on ebay)
The reliability on mine is shocking. Its the only two year old car that actually left me stranded, Its done 30k and turbo now whines so much that her indoors asked if we were being follwed by a police car with its siren on.
Frankly compton sheds have better build quality than this abomination. I ache for the lease contract to run out.
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So I'm guessing that out of the Touran, the Toran Auto or the S-max, you'd go for the Ford!!!!
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Not driven the S Max, but if it was the chariot of hades, I would opt for that rather than the touran.
Its a shame because on the face of it the touran does stuff incredibly well. sometimes
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