another photo
www1.airliners.net/open.file/1070481/M/
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Dont want to disappoint you but
www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=46964&...e
that's last months news {Threads now combined - DD}
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Go on, get out of the car...
www.mikes-walks.co.uk
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Also came up with a related question in this thread:
www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?f=2&t=47...9
Question about the engines and turns out this plane was in Casino Royal and is modified for the film.
So my question/conclusion in that thread... not a real 747 being towed then. Just one with slightly lighter engines and therefore would the VW tow a proper 747?
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See:
portal.aircraft-info.net/article3.html
An empty 747 is a minimum of 339,000lbs, which equates to about 181 tonnes.
Take-off weight is more than double...:-)
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Not a new concept, Land Rover launched the Discovery in the late 80's by pulling a train into a station.
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Assuming things on the flat, then people (i.e. no vehicles) can pull things lke HGV, planes, trains etc.
Okay not a 747 but found this:
www.theworldsstrongestman.com/de/wsm/events/plane_...l
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Static friction is minimal, if you can apply continuous power without stalling the engine for long enough it'll move. People used to tow these things with their teeth, and Virgin is now going to tow out their aircraft to save fuel.
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With Richard Branston´s teeth. Hopefully.
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"With Richard Branston´s teeth. Hopefully."
Bit unimaginative, I feel. I can think of other parts of his body that I would much rather see him using to drag a 747 along...
V
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The caption says it demonstrates the car's "durability". How precisely does it do that? Has it been towing aeroplanes successfully for the last 10 years?
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Shown on Fifth gear last night.
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I hope they changed the clutch and flywheel befoe selling the car on. It would be well bruised. Regards Peter
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A technical question: does the Toureg have an additional a low ratio gearbox?
My experience of a LandRover in low-range bottom gear is that it will creep along barely moving. - You can get out and walk slowly beside it as a joke if you want to. You can pull a house down with it - I have!
So I'm not so sure that there necesarily would be much clutch slippage involved.
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A technical question: does the Toureg have an additional a low ratio gearbox?
Yes the ToeRag was an auto and he did it with low range selected. He was told by VW technicians to very slowly increase revs to 2000rpm. When he got to about 1600rpm it started moving. Michelin told them if they exceeded 20mph the rear tyres could burst.
He said the only modification was to fill the tyres to double the normal pressure. But I was wondering about the rear suspension. AFAIK they have air suspension, but I'm surprised the standard suspension could cope with 4.3 tonnes of ballast in the back?!
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If the weight of the ballast and that of the 747 are correct, then the ballast was approximately 1/36th of the aircraft's weight.
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155 tons (the aircraft) according to the "enthusiastic" person on 5th Gear.
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155 tons (the aircraft) ..
but philw said right at the top of thread
At 155 tonnes, a 747 is remarkably light .. ..
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So, is it a 747?
It doesn't have PROPER engines. Does it have seats?
What is the definition of a Boeing 747 aircraft - within the meaning of the act? i.e. if you took the engines out - which they did and say, removed the wings, is it still a 747?
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Just checked it out.
......For the purpose of the Act, a 747 (also known as a "Jumbo Jet") is a mechanically propelled airborne vehicle manufactured by the Boeing Corporation, made or adapted for the carriage of passengers or goods for hire or reward (except in time of legally, or in exceptional but far more usual circumstances recently illegally, declared conflict or "war" between two sovereign states or parts thereof except for when this benefits a third sovereign state or part thereof economically), The "aircraft" (or "airplane" in the USA) will have 4 engines (normally jet propelled, unless in the case of a fictional film or "movie") in matching pairs on either side of the fuselage. (except where a 5th engine is being carried for repair - this engine must not be used other than in conditions of severely reduced height or "altitude"). The aircraft will have a distinctive hump on the upper section of the fuselage of varying length depending on the model or configuration or will otherwise be know as a "wide bodied jet" apart from in the press who can't tell the difference. The aircraft will way anything between 155 and 200 tones depending on whose car is towing it.
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< > the meaning of the act>> Just checked it out.
Thanks, PU, I enjoyed that.
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155 tonnes is light. and it sure has no fuel in it. I had not thought of an automatic box and red hot fluid. Regards Peter
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Firefox miscorrected the word weigh to way !
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>>Firefox miscorrected the word weigh to way !>>
It can't do it by itself...:-)
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The diff was changed before the nonsensical event.
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Wouldn't recommend it
My friends Toureg had to have a new engine after 2 years after shifting nothing heavier than a wife, two kids and a small fluffy dog - Some Touregs have "porous blocks" that VW are trying to keep the lid on, so new engine, no problem
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portal.aircraft-info.net/article3.html
I will, of course; if necessary, stand corrected, but isn't the Antonov the largest commercial aircraft in the world?
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Commercial Airline: Definition: An airline that transports passengers
747 is still the largest, until the A380 comes on line.
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So an airliner that carries freight is not a commercial airliner?
Well now - walks away stroking chin.
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I thought it was quite an impressive feat a few days ago. But even the VW driver apparently said something like, "It was too easy, in hindsight its a shame we didnt try something heavier".
Next they could try pitting the Touareg against Dave "Big Dave" Gauder, of Birmingham. Says here he pulled a 200-tonne 747, along with some other scarcely believable records:
www.stream-on.com/bigdaveg/records.html
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>>Commercial Airline: Definition: An airline that transports passengers
I agree.
Anarak mode
Some info on the AN124 - It does have 88 seats and a maximum takeoff weight 392 tons
www.airforce-technology.com/projects/an124/specs.h...l
The aircraft fuselage has a double-deck layout. The cockpit, the relief crew compartment and the troop cabin with 88 seats are on the upper deck. The lower deck is the cargo hold. The flight deck has crew stations arranged in pairs for six crew: the pilot and copilot, two flight engineers, the navigator, and the communications officer. The loadmaster's station is located in the lobby deck.
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the big one is the AN-225:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An-225
Max take-off weight of 1,411,000 lb, against an AN-400 at 890,000 lb, a 747-400 at 870,000 lb, an A380 at 1,300,000 lb and the C-17 at 585,000 lb.
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PS: the AN-400 is the 124, a C5 Galaxy has a max take-off weight of 840,000 lb.
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So in order:
AN-225
A380
AN-400 / AN124
747-400
C-5
C-17
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