I've just watched tonights progamme on the telly. Have I got it right, that Traffic cops can just drive round with their car automatically reading number plates and checking them for road-tax and insurance (and pretty soon M.O.T. certificate once they get a new elastic-band to fix the computer)?
Also, are car-parks etc being fitted with ANPR cameras so that untaxed and (possibly) uninsured cars automatically get caught?
If so, I welcome it. If I have to pay for my insurance, tax and MOT then so should everyone else. Especially if they're also looking for stolen / cloned cars.
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Don't know about the car parks. I would say that it's possible but not happening at this moment in time, in any car park anywhere except Police HQ maybe:-)
As for ANPR-yeah, as long as they have the system switched on it will read all the number plates it can (it doesn't read plates with a 100% success rate). One other point to remember, ANPR doesn't equal caught-the cops use ANPR so they can identify suspicious vehicles to stop in person, they aren't likely to start attending public car parks to hand out fines to untaxed vehicles flagged up via ANPR-that is what the DVLA has computer systems for.
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Don't know about the car parks. I would say that it's possible but not happening at this moment in time, in any car park anywhere except Police HQ maybe:-)
My local Tesco (Wigan) has ANPR cameras which it uses to charge people staying over the alloted time - there are notices saying as much and they publicised the scheme before it was implemented
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Go on, get out of the car...
www.mikes-walks.co.uk
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They are rolling ANPR all over the place to such an extent that where there is a CCTV LA camera covering the road then there will be ANPR.
All in the BIG picture that they will record all vehicle movements and have a data base going back months so that they can back track for crime etc.
No doubt will feature in Vehicle movement charges when it gives birth.
dvd
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Why does this send a shiver down my spine? And no, I am not a criminal! It's just so open to abuse.
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Why does this send a shiver down my spine? And no, I am not a criminal! It's just so open to abuse.
Fully agree, I get really quite worried by all this!!!
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And if they ever link with the mobile phone database they will know who is in the car as well!
Main problem with all of this technology is it won't catch the real scrotes as there cars are un-registered as well as uninsured and untaxed :-(
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>>>> Main problem with all of this technology is it won't catch the real scrotes as there cars are un-registered as well as uninsured and untaxed :-(
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Yes, but the boys in blue can stop those cars and nick the drivers - hopefully.
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Like they do at the moment you mean?
Cynical chuckle.
I suppose the best part about this is that it won't work anyway, so there's unlikely to be much abuse of it....
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"Like they do at the moment you mean? "
Just spent an afternoon in a packed custody suite, obviously they all gave themselves up as did the 80000 plus prison population.
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Pugugly, there might well be a large prison population, but that doesn't mean that the police have adequately cracked down on the HUGE problem of idiots revving round towns and villages in their stupid modified cars to impress their 13 year old girlfriends.
I am not suggesting they all go to prison (although I'd like that!!) but I AM suggesting they actually do their job. Contrary to what they may think, many of their activities are illegal, not to mention anti-social. And if anyone says "ooh we were all young once" then I will say yes, indeed... and if we behaved like that then we wouldn't be surprised if we were punished and everyone thought we were idiots.
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The second "they" in the second paragraph meaning the police, not the chavs! Pressed enter too soon, the perils of being a GYIM (Grumpy Young Ish Man).
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And if they ever link with the mobile phone database they will know who is in the car as well! Main problem with all of this technology is it won't catch the real scrotes as there cars are un-registered as well as uninsured and untaxed :-(
Well according to Traffic Cops last night, Dr Rubber, the Traffic Cops are now doing egg sackerly that!
This is what (I think) I saw:
Cops driving round in unmarked patrol car. They start to follow (what later turned out to be) a scrote. They end up booking him and removing car on a transporter. Either someone had to pay 120 quid (or whatever) to recover car or it was scrapped.
What I wasn't sure about was whether the cops spotted & targeted this car or whether they've got some kind of on board ANPR which automatically photographs and checks for insurance/tax without being prompted by the cops. If this is the case then presumably there's some kind of alarm that goes off when a suspect vehicle is detected and prompts the cops to stop the car.
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I watched that too. In theory, ANPR in cop cars is a good idea, trouble is they are also talking about putting the same technology into standard CCTV cameras. These will most likely raise revenue from people who have "forgotten" not scrotes.
Joe
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Home Office data suggests that the forgetful also have faulty memories on CCJ, arrest warrants, bail and debts in general. Not beyond the bounds of possibility to devise a system to calculate the chances of the same reg number being simultaneously in Manchester and Bournemouth etc. Assuming the HO take an interest. Driven by the Treasury they might do....
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What I wasn't sure about was whether the cops spotted & targeted this car or whether they've got some kind of on board ANPR which automatically photographs and checks for insurance/tax without being prompted by the cops. If this is the case then presumably there's some kind of alarm that goes off when a suspect vehicle is detected and prompts the cops to stop the car.
If I remember correctly there was some sort of warning device - didn't it go "yabba, dabba, doo" or is my memory playing tricks again?
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>> If I remember correctly there was some sort of warning device - didn't it go "yabba, dabba, doo" or is my memory playing tricks again?
Yes I saw one some time ago where the ANPR had something silly as the warning alarm.
To second what nortones2 says about "forgetfulness", they stopped a bloke in a minibus for an expired tax disc. They asked his 4 passengers to get out of the back, and none of them could speak any English, they were all illegal immigrants.
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The Surrey Police newsletter (I know, I know but it was a boring afternoon) reports that they have the ANPR camera van I've reported on earlier and are now adding ANPR kit to 4 patrol cars.
So they should be pulling more scrotes over any time soon.
No comments on the Flintstones sound effect though.
Dan
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>To second what nortones2 says about "forgetfulness", they stopped >a bloke in a minibus for an expired tax disc. They asked his 4 >passengers to get out of the back, and none of them could speak >any English, they were all illegal immigrants.
A mate was driving the area car in Chiswick, W London. Stopped a car at night with a rear bulb blown. Cut a long story short they ended up searching his house and found ten illegals in the basement.
Moral, check your bulbs of you are a human trafficker.
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