I am thinking of buying a 205 diesel.
The owners say the only problem with the car is that occasionally the brakes stick on when braking. (and to solve the problem they just brake again)
Is this a problem which can be easily rectified?
or is it an expensive fix.
The car is good value N Reg, 1996, 45000 miles FSH, 5-Door for just £900
Thanks
Phil
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re-con calipers should be about £45 a side plus a set of pads £15 so knock £100 off his price if you proceed.
This is you sorting it by the way......
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If it's the rear brakes, then thats another £100...and if it needs new discs.....another £30....plus labour. These are all fairly straightforward jobs to do yourself, but probably about 4 hours labour for a garage.
And without trying to put a damper on your enthusiasm for a bargain, I would firstly ask whether the mileage is genuine (old MOTs? service history?), and if so, check the car out thoroughly - low mileage is not necessarily good news for extended periods.
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Peugeot and Citroen models usually suffer brake linings coming away from the rear shoes. When this happens the wheel will either turn ¾ one-way and then lock, or will not turn at all. This usually happens when the shoes get damp, either due to rain water or a leaking wheel cylinder.
Replacing the shoes is quite straight forward, but sometimes it can be difficult to remove the drum. Use of a slide hammer makes it easier.....
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....and Renaults. Had the identical problem with the rear shoes that you describe on my Megane.
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The usual cause of the linings coming adrift from the shoes on Bendix drum brakes is a seized pivot on the shoe web, either for the handbrake cable lever or the adjuster lever (or both). It seems that Bendix have made these pivots just too tight and seizure causes the handbrake to lock on, shearing the lining off the shoe as the vehicle is moved. The remedy is replacement of parts (cheap from GSF) and the application of a copper based anti-seize compound to the pivots.
Genuine Bendix brake parts are quite cheap if you avoid the main dealers, I'd go for the car if it is genuine and reasonably rust free. The 205 is a fun car in terms of its handling and cheap to run. Make sure you change the coolant for the genuine stuff and be absolutely certain you get all of the air out of the cooling system
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thanks for the reply.
I've decided to keep looking. 80 miles is a long way to go if the car isn't right.
I've seen a Citroen AX Diesel 1.5 advertised at £650 with 65k, Service History etc.. Does anyone have any experience of these?
Thanks
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Same engine I think, but someone will be along to tell you for sure!
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You are the person who needs to 'Get Experience'Get off the fence,buy a car. It wont drive like new,because it isnt new.Very few people get 'Ripped Off' only the ones you read about-The other'Milions' are happy with their SECOND HAND cars .Just dive in keep £100 back for wear and tear probs-and enjoy!And stop asking for advice,then jumping on peoples good nature! Good Luck-Mickh
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The 1.5 is a different animal to the 1.7 fitted to the 205, being a development of the TU series engines rather than the XU series. It's OK - much better than the previous 1.4D - but not as good as the XUD. The AX is small and flimsy - at 6' tall with size 10 boots I couldn't get my feet in the foot well! My Dad had a 1.4 for quite a while - the light body gives v good economy (65+ MPG), but I would avoid it unless you are only doing local journeys. See my other post about 306 / ZX.....!
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RichardW
Is it illogical? It must be Citroen....
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good answer RichardW they are good the 1.5 diesel if original mileage and serviced but..... the body on an ax with a diesel fitted is like driving in a box of cornflakes.
You might as well buy a petrol ax if you want to do motoring on the dead cheap as these are cracking little cars but no good in an accident,wouldnt let my daughter have one im afraid.
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106/Saxo Mk 2 with the 1.5 litre TUD5 diesel is the best bet in my view. Stronger than the original AX (and the 205) with good performance, excellent economy and the comparative reliability of an iron-block engine.
Just make sure you can live with the driving position/pedals for your build, shoe size and anticipated journey length.
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205 are a much better car than the AX or 106 diesels which are cramped and have rather fragile underpowered engines.
Only advantage is later 106's had airbags fitted if safety is a prime consideration.
Late 205's diesel's have power steering and electric windows , best is M/N reg Sceptre turbo diesel which makes 106 feel like a horse and cart.
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AX's are cheap and cheerful. One of my freinds paid £400 for an M reg AX 1.5D with 100k on the clock about 2-3 years ago. Not too bad to drive, fairly good accelleration due to the ultra lightweight body. I wouldn't consider buying one though, give me a 205 any day. Although not as comfortable as, say a 306 or a ZX they are more comfy and lot more sturdy than the AX and the 1.7D is probably hardly any thirstier than the 1.5D.
Martin
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A 1.5 old diesel is cheaper road tax as its under 1542cc and therefore attracts the £110 tax for year if older than 2001,much better than £190 i think for knocking about in.
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