I'm not vindictive (well not normally) But"He was warned not to drive during his ban and told he would have to reapply for his licence at the end of it. "
I wonder if they will not give him his licence back on the grounds he was a persistent offender...?
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There has been much talk of in this thread about the whys and wherefores of politicians speeding. I havew jsu been reading the late Alan Clarks diaries, and he regularly sped (140+ regularly), but only got prosecuted once. This was of course 15 or 20 years ago, so no cameras. We live in a different world.
Diverging slightly, on many occasions he got so fed up with the pace used by his official driver he ended up driving himself home in the official car!
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I must say that the amusing and rather nasty (but with very good taste in cars) Alan Clark has crossed my mind several times looking at this thread. He got a Bentley R Type Continental he was thinking of buying up to over 100 in Hyde Park once.
Come to think of in in the early sixties I knew, slightly, another nasty man who had a tuned XK140 drophead (not roadster I seem to remember) with a very loud straight-through exhaust, in which he regularly hit 100 in The Mall. As a racing mechanic who lived round here in the 60s used to get E Types, Aston Martins and so on up to over 90 in a place now covered with speed bumps and similar ghastly rubbish, not a mile from where I live.
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Wow, 63mph on a regular non-roadworks section of the M4 in Wales.
Thats crime of the century really, isn't it?
Good job he's off the road in his properly maintained, safe Audi, eh. He's a menace to us all.
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Really! Stop it, you'll make me sorry for a politician.
JH
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Actually now I think about this how is the ban going to inconvenience him?
Firstly, Glenys has a licence,does she not?
Secondly, when on official EU business won't he be entitled to the use of an official car and driver (at our expense)!
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Wow, 63mph on a regular non-roadworks section of the M4 in Wales. Thats crime of the century really, isn't it? Good job he's off the road in his properly maintained, safe Audi, eh. He's a menace to us all.
No road works? So why a 50 mph limit?
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QUOTE: """Speeding is a killer and I have campaigned all my life against speeding,"
He has campaigned against speeding all his life, and know it contributes to deaths on the roads. However, he has the gall to to try and look good by not pleading 'hardship' as he covers 18k mls a year mainly for charity work.
IMO, a man of his age and preachability and public standing must BAN himself for life if he was half decent!
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IMO, a man of his age and preachability and public standing must BAN himself for life if he was half decent! :(
'preachability'?
IMO you're being a bit strict here audiaudi.
Perhaps if Ms Kinnock had had another make of car you wouldn't have got so wound up.
:o) tee hee
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No road works? So why a 50 mph limit?
I have NO idea.
But it's true. Seriously - drive along the M4 towards Swansea. There is at least 5-6 miles of it which is a 50mph speed limit - a permanent one.
Drove me insane last time I went along there, felt so slow and ridiculous crawling along at 50mph.
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"in his wife's audi"
I thought he would have preferred a Honda Civic or Alfa Brera.
At least they have a big red button on them, I thought his lifetime ambition was getting a chance to press one of those!
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Remember him droning on in the 1980's about the UK's industrial decline?
Nice to see him driving an Audi.
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>>Nice to see him driving an Audi.>>
He could afford a Maybach these days...:-)
Incredible how those who profess to stand up for the poor and working class end up with such lavish lifestyles.
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Calm down guys, it's an Audi A4, hardly lavish exotica is it?
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I seem to recall him going over on his roof on a motorway about 15 years ago.
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Really? So he's one of us then.
Stop slagging the poor guy off.
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You're right, after all, he's done no harm.
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Obviously the law has to take its course, and Neil Kinnock is right not to complain, publicly at any rate. But there are many worse drivers around, so I think we should spare the schadenfreude (since he was in an Audi).
I would much rather reserve vitriol for the petty little tyrants who impose a 40 mph limit on a stretch of motorway. 50 mph is slow enough to protect any workforce, and as Machika says above some of these sites have no work being done at all.
Some of the contractors are a complete law unto themselves, and what they do (or don't do) is I'm sure often unknown to the Highways Agency or whoever authorises the roadworks. Other people have jobs to do which are just as important, or more so, than theirs, and they should make far more effort to minimise the inconvenience they cause.
So just a tinge of sympathy for Neil Kinnock may be in order - it could happen to many of us.
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First one was on 26 June, second on 29 Sept. If I am reading correctly, the first one would have taken him to 12 points and he would have been banned.
So why didn't it? He must have had his NIP within 2 weeks so did he try delaying tactics to put it off? And then silly enough to get done again for speeding whilst that was happening? Or maybe he was hoping that by delaying it some of his existing points might have dropped off?
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No stupid health and safety limits to protect non existant workers, of course ... so we had the occasional oncoming truck on our side from time to time.
Having health and safety regs is so very stupid, isn't it? /sarcasm
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Neil Kinnock was unfortunate in two respects. Firstly he got caught, and secondly (being a public figure) the case got more than average publicity. How many Backroomers can, with honesty, claim that they have never exceeded a speed limit? Own up, guys and gals!
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Unfortunate and Stupid if you ask me.
He's a national politician, nearing the maximum number of points, and got done on the M4 where he, presumably, regularly drives and so knows of the restrictions. Duh !
If I had been him, I think I might have been ultra-cautious, knowing that another camera snap and I'd loose my license. As for all this "I've campaigned all my life" nonsence, why on earth did he not take some of his own medicine? I think Neil generally gets a bad press, but this whole story just makes me wonder about his sanity. What on earth was he thinking of? And having got caught, he should have just kept his mouth shut - going on about the campaigning nonsence just makes him look stupid.
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According to today's Daily Mail: "Lord Kinnock, who lives in West London, was driving two Audi A4s registered to his wife, Glenys."
Impressive...:-)
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"he should have just kept his mouth shut...."
If only...
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couldn't he borrow the Deputy Prime Minister's official car, which comes with a driver ?
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when done to nannying excess, as it is in this country, yes it is.
JH
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I was driving back from Chiang Mai to Bangkok after a holiday weekend a few years ago. The dual carriageway was solid. At first the dirt track on the side became an unofficial third lane. Then people started using the fast lane on the other side. I've never seen anything so crazy. Oncoming traffic was swerving to avoid the traffic on the wrong side. My Thai wife didn't seem too concerned though...
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