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Tipping - smokie
Last night I had cause to call out the RAC man to recover a car (the new Fiesta seems to have burnt it's clutch out...)

He turned up reasonably promptly (40 mins), was helpful, towed the car about 2.5 miles and is getting good feedback on the custoner care card he gave us.

Should I have tipped him? If so, how much?

Who else might you tip, in a motoring context?

(I thought I'd asked this one before but a Forum Search didn't reveal it)
Tipping - nutty_nissan
Is this a joke? He was merely doing what he's paid a salary to do as a patrolman for the RAC. Why would you want to tip him, unless you have money to burn?

I suppose you would pay £100+VAT a hour for main agent servicing, and feel like tipping them because they hoovered the interior of your car before you collected it?
Tipping - Stuartli
No, I don't think you should have tipped him. He is doing the job for which he is paid for and, from the sound of it, efficiently.

I'm one of those who is very much against tipping, believing that people should be paid the proper rate for their work rather than having to rely on this method to bring their wages up to a reasonable sum.

Why should you have to tip a bar staff member, a taxi driver or someone waiting on at a restaurant (it's the chef that does most of the work in the latter example)?

To be honest the lads and lassies behind the checkouts at my local Tesco work far harder than any of these people. We enjoy the second busiest and most successful Tesco outlet in the UK and the checkout staff can each deal with a very large number of customers per hour.

They have to go through quite a routine yet very rarely get it wrong, despite the pressure.

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Tipping - Andrew-T
As others have said, tipping is now largely an anachronism. 'Servants' used to be tipped because they were paid a pittance, and to ensure preferential treatment next time (e.g.at the hairdresser's). These days not many jobs are paid that badly, so tipping survives mainly by tradition - i.e.it is the 'done thing'. Road patrolmen aren't in that category IMHO.
Tipping - T Lucas
I know we Brits get really stressed about tipping,but i allways think that if somebody has done a job for you that you are pleased with a tip of some sort can be very much appreciated and get you preferential treatment next time.
On the few occasions i have needed to call out the AA/RAC i have given a tip from £1(many years ago)to £5 about 2 years ago.
If i go to a fast fit place i always give the lad a tip(works wonders for next visit)the council dump,they will unload your junk for you and even on one occasion in a large main dealers that helped sort a problem,i madesure the lad that worked on the car got a tip from me.
For me it just helps make the world go round in a less stressful way.
Tipping - blue_haddock
as my dad would say "here's a tip - don't expect one!"
Tipping - tack
Can't remember who said it, but here goes...."Never tip an equal"

(I think it was someone who was rich and very tight, because I cannot imagine a single mum waitress saying it)
Tipping - Armitage Shanks {p}
I agree that tipping is an anachronism but some people, (catering trade) really do need to top up their wages as thay may well be on the legal minimum. I also resent having a standard 'service charge' applied, whether the service had been good or bad. One has to be a bit thick-skinned to send the bill back and have it removed! That said, I received exceptional service and courtesy in a coffee shop at Stansted airport the other day and my offer of a tip was politely declined on the basis that 'it is not company policy = not allowed'. I tip if I get an better than average or expected service.
Tipping - bell boy
i agree with T Lucas tipping is a happy occasion and makes the world seem better even if its your own world.I will carry on tipping if i feel the person deserves it whether he has more money than me or not.(As the old saying goes "it is better to have tipped and lost ,than never to have tipped at all");)
Tipping - Hamsafar
I only tip if they do over and above their service...
eg, they tow you much further than you have cover for, or they give you a new battery for free because they had one on the van that noone knew about.
Tipping - Stuartli
>>but i allways think that if somebody has done a job for you that you are pleased with a tip of some sort can be very much appreciated >>

Do you expect to be tipped in your job - I would have been insulted.

There's absolutely no reason in my view why you should tip any breakdown assistance operative. As previously pointed out, they are already paid for the work they do.


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Tipping - Roly93
Definately not ! The guy was doing the job he is paid to do, so thanks and praise should suffice.
Tipping is the thin end of the wedge, it allows employers to assume their staff are getting a lot of tips and as such needn't pay them so much, as is the case in the USA.
Tipping - Navara Van man
Nothing wrong with tips. I have tipped AA staff before like the guy who made two journeys so I could unnload my van and an overalll journey close to 100 miles.

I usualy tip about £10 and tell the recipent to have a few drinks on me. I ocashionly get tipped at work usualy a bottle of wine or twenty quid cash in addition to the cheque for the job and I always apreciate the gesture.

paul
Tipping - Altea Ego
Why not? RAC/AA men get paid peanuts for the job they do and you obviously felt warm and loved and so why not share your appreciation?

The chef does all the work? you are having a laff Stuart?, dont see the chef preparing the veg, waiting on the customers, or doing the washing up? Tesco shelf stackers work harder than a resturant? ho ho ho very good.
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Tipping - Stuartli
>>Tesco shelf stackers work harder than a resturant?>>

Your vivid imagination is running away with you - I was discussing the cashout staff.

I repeat. If people are paid properly for the work they do they don't need or should not expect tips.

How comfortable would you feel if quite a proportion of your weekly or monthly income depended mainly on the generosity or otherwise of people you deal with?

Doesn't pay the bills if you have a bad week or month.

I don't think that RAC, AA or similar breakdown organisation operatives should be tipped - I just might make an exception in the case of Green Flag if it was especially deserving, as the organisation uses local garages or specialists to act on its behalf.
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Tipping - Lud
Always feels a bit weird bunging a headwaiter or funeral director worth ten times what you are... seldom happens to me fortunately. If someone does you a much-needed favour, you offer a drink and they accept, OK. In a family-run restaurant, you bung the employed waiter but not the owners, surely? A while back people used to rush up and wipe yr windscreen at traffic lights hoping for a bung. They seem to have stopped now. Why? Where I live, quite respectably dressed beggars sit patiently asking for tips outside shops, next to money machines, etc. On the whole I only have the slightest inclination to bung these people if they are obviously messed up and 'unprofessional', but seldom do even then. It would be quite expensive to give something to all of them every time.
Tipping - Aprilia
I think in some jobs (like waitressing) the pay is very poor and tipping is a vital part of income (isn't it the case that some employers pay less than minimun wage and then 'assume' a certain level of tipping to bring the wage up to the minimum?).

I wouldn't tip an RAC man. As for TVM comments that these guys get 'peanuts' - well, the work is actually reasonably well paid, I would guess an RAC man makes at least £30k, unless he's spending lots of time asleep in the van. Not exactly 'peanuts'.
Tipping - Armitage Shanks {p}
There is a difference between begging and tipping! Beggars want a handout and may, or may not, deserve one. People who you tip also may, or may not, deserve one but in any event they have done something for you and tip might be appropriate.
Tipping - Vin {P}
"...funeral director..."

I have no intention of tipping my funeral director.

V
Tipping - tack
"...funeral director..."
I have no intention of tipping my funeral director.
V

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I would give him a tip. "This dying lark is ok, but you don't wanna be there when it happens"
Tipping - borasport20
Nope, wouldn't have tipped him.

Last time I had a breakdown man out, he did a cracking job. I told him he had, and I told him I was going to tell the company, and I made a point of telling the company when I got home.


Go on, get out of the car...
www.mikes-walks.co.uk
Tipping - Quinny100
I ran out of petrol a few years ago at 3.30am on a Saturday night - it was my own stupid fault as I had been driving with the light on all day. The car was covered under the manufacturers recovery scheme (run by GreenFlag).

They sent a guy in a van from a local garage that was a Greenflag agent who arrived within 25 minutes. I'd obviously got him out of bed but he was extremely plesant, put me a can full of petrol in and then checked the car was running ok before he left. He asked for £4 for the petrol and I gave him a tenner for his trouble. He thanked me and when asked told me the garage gets £8 for turning out to a job and they only do it because it brings them revenue from subsequent repair jobs. There is no way I'd be out of bed at that time within 25 minutes for £8 thats for sure, so I think he was deserving of a tip.

Had it been an employed patrolman I'm not sure I'd have tipped him so much as they are paid a salary that reflects their working hours.
Tipping - mare
Given circumstances of OP, i wouldn't have tipped that guy, but i have tipped breakdown people in the past having got me out of a very big hole.

One of those things that you have to assess each case on it's own merit. To say that one should never tip any breakdown operative ever is a bit black and white.
Tipping - smokie
It only really crossed my mind to do so when there was one of those embarrassing silences just after we'd completed the paperwork, where he was looking at me in what I construed as an expectant fashion.

I didn't, btw
Tipping - Altea Ego
IN that case - I wouldnt. Expectant fashion = out of luck in my book.
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Tipping - Pugugly {P}
I always tip at my local resteraunt. Most of the waitresses are young locals or from Eastern europe. Guess they won't be in the supertax bracket then. Service is always superb, they always go the extra mile.

I won't tip any other service providers.

A friend is a Postie - in the Christmas season he pulls in between £300 and £500 in tips. He is badly paid for the work he does and is a nice bloke so I guess he deserves it.
Tipping - drbe
I hope (not expect) to be tipped when I drive someone to the airport. Am I better off than the people I drive? Hard to say as I live in a very affluent area.
Tipping - BobbyG
As a point of principal, I very rarely tip anyone, no-one tips me in my job. Why should a taxi driver get a tip for blasting the horn outside my house and then taking me to where I want to go. Thats what the fair is for? And I have heard too many horror stories from the catering industry to know what happens with these tips, or doesn't especially if you put them on your bill.

Recently when I was staying in a very large posh hotel in London, I was dismayed by the amount of tipping and "enforced" situations, like the hotel insisiting in carrying my solitary bag up to the room etc.

I have no problem with receiving good service, and I may be looking at things too deeply, but every one of their "service" staff appeared foreign to me, almost as if the hotel were deliberately trying to say that we Brits were better than these foreigners.

Nice facilities etc but give me a bog standard Travel Lodge any day - I don't need someone employed to open the door of the gents for me!!
Tipping - T Lucas
Well i think alot of the posts just confirm that we Brits are really stressy when it comes to tipping,embaressed,unsure,and not confident to show a small reward as thanks.
A couple of quid goes a long way,especially if you want repeat service.
Try it with the service reception next time you want a job booking in,or a 'quick look'or some 'tech advice'.
As for my binmen,a few fags,cigars,or baccy,that really does work wonders.
Tipping - Smileyman
Perhaps this web site will help

www.tipping.org/TopPage.shtml

As a matter of course I'd always tip a valet parking attendant in the US.....
Tipping - mss1tw
Perhaps this web site will help
www.tipping.org/TopPage.shtml


Oh good god, how tragic.

I only tip out of feeling I have too, and I don't like feeling like a Scrooge. I don't get tipped for doing my job, I get this thing called a wage. I imagine they do too. If it's not enough, bully for them. Get another job.
Tipping - mss1tw
Although, to add on: (This can be merged, oh wielders of the Edit button ;-)

I did tip the Peugeot techy who got my locking wheel nuts off within ten minutes, on Christmas Eve! No way I'd begrudge that. And I contact Peugeot to let them know how impressed I was.
Tipping - Nsar
It's never occured to me to tip an RAC bloke. Homestart will always get the offer of a cuppa of course and the best favour I can probably do him is not stand around looking over his shoulder making "helpful" comments, just let him get on with his job.
As for those hotels/bar toilets where there's some poor bloke employed to hand you a towel or tell you where the hand basin is when you're stood next to it in return for a tip...well....a commercial transaction with a stranger in a public toilet is not really on my list of ingredients of a proper night out.
Tipping - mss1tw
As for those hotels/bar toilets where there's some poor bloke employed
to hand you a towel or tell you where the hand
basin is when you're stood next to it in return for
a tip...well....a commercial transaction with a stranger in a public toilet
is not really on my list of ingredients of a proper
night out.



AAAARGH! Someone pass me my Valium, stat!
Tipping - Marc
Here's a tip - don't eat yellow snow.

Seriously though, the whole tipping business in the USA is a complicated pain. You have to tip the guy who drives you from the airport, the porter who takes your bags up to your room, the doorman who holds the door open and then if you ask for anything to be brought up to your room the person who brings it. During the day you have to tip for meals, drink at bars and taxi rides.

Every tip on a different "unofficial" percentage that you have to work out!

In the UK much simpler - at restaurants 10% if good service, binmen a four pack at Xmas and the postman a fiver if it's the same guy every day.
Tipping - Adam {P}
I thought you tipped 20% at good restaurants?
Tipping - Manatee
Here's a tip - don't eat yellow snow.


Quite right- don't go where the huskies go.

Americans are at least less uncomfortable with tipping. 15% being the norm in a restaurant, much less than 10% and there's a good chance they'll ask you what was wrong with the service.
Tipping - NowWheels
In the UK much simpler - at restaurants 10% if good
service


Unfortunately, some waiters don't understand that "if".

At a meal in an expensive restaurant for a friend's birthday, we had real difficulty getting the waiter's attention, and when we did it still took ages to get any food, requiring more reminders each time. Meanwhile, the other tables were getting great service. Dunno what the issue was, maybe just we weren't regulars.

When we paid the bill, the waiter snootily said "service is not included". We replied in unison "so we noticed".
Tipping - bell boy
maybe you gave them vibes at your table and they were frightened to serve you in case they didnt come up to "your standard"?
Tipping - NowWheels
maybe you gave them vibes at your table and they were
frightened to serve you in case they didnt come up to
"your standard"?


;P

I doubt it -- we even had to wait to get seated. It was a quie night, the boss was away, and the staff were spending their time with some friends.
Tipping - Dynamic Dave
To quote part of Smokie's message at the top of the page:-

"Who else might you tip, in a motoring context?" {please note the bold bit as a hint!}

DD.
Tipping - L'escargot
I wouldn't tip an RAC man, but I'm practically forced to tip my hairdresser. Blatantly lined up next to the till are a row of mugs each with the name of one of the girls on it. (Yes, I admit to going to a ladies hairdresser ~ there isn't a decent gents hairdresser for miles around.)
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L\'escargot.
Tipping - mrmender
Don't worry about going to Ladies hair dressers me to....Only chance i get to flirt with younger ladies. Starting to hone my skills of becoming a dirty old man!
Did complain about the lack of car mags was looked at as though i was off a other planet
Tipping - Xileno {P}
Xileno's wallet is always firmly closed, whether motoring related or not.
Tipping - expat
Tipping is almost unknown here in Australia and a very good thing too. I cannot remember the last time I felt a tip was required or expected either in a motoring context or any other.
Tipping - The Gingerous One
I have tipped a breakdown guy once, because he didn't have to go the way I suggested in order to drop us off before dropping my car off. The super MOntegos' gearbox innards had made a break for freedom on the M1 @ J34 by Sheff. He picked us up & the car. I ideally wanted to be dropped off at a friends' in Cov, then the car to be conveyed back to my home address in Basingstoke. Except that the car would have to go to South Mimms first for some reason and Coventry wasn't really on the way.

Anyway, he did it and I felt that it was worth tipping him for sorting it all out.
But it's the only time I have felt that it was worthwhile.

just my little bit

cheers,
Stu
Tipping - Cliff Pope
I tried to tip a breakdown recovery man once. He had been persuaded by a friend to turn out for the job, on Christmas Eve, but hadn't been told it would take him 3 hours, and then he'd have to get home again, late at night.
He did the job well and with no complaint, so I offered him £10, which he refused.
I don't normally tip, but special effort deserves special reward, I think.
Tipping - Lud
In 1983 in Ndjamena, Chad, cheapest and most available hire vehicle was a 50cc moped. Mine got its belts in a twist one day somewhere near the French Embassy. While I was looking at it in mingled puzzlement and disgust a passer-by in immaculate white robe and skullcap rolled his sleeves up and in about three minutes righted the thing with his bare hands. When I thanked him and asked if I could give him anything he refused in a dignified, sober manner. After all he knew the vagaries of these scooters and I didn't. Virtue, he somehow implied without saying anything, is its own reward. Ordinary Muslims often have this rather old-fashioned but refreshing attitude.
Tipping - 007

What I really object to is fly-tipping.
Tipping - sierraman
Absolutely.
When my clutch cable snapped the recovery guy took me to a nearby spares shop for a replacement,then lay in the wet road and fitted it.I was pleased as it was less hassle than being recovered and having to sort it myself so I bunged him a couple of quid for a drink.I was less pleased when I discovered he had done away with the lever boot.
Tipping - kithmo
Not sure if it still applies, but 15 years ago AA men used to pay income tax on expected gratuities.
Tipping - Hugo {P}
I have tipped AA patrolmen before, usually to the value of a couple of quid.

Have I been tipped as part of my job?
At the moment, occasionally I get asked to "keep the change" if the client fells I've gone over and above the call of duty. Having said that I do try to go out of my way to help all my customers at least once. If they're not appreciative or I find them difficult then I may treat them as a lower priority next time. If they're good to deal with and pleasent, then next time they're a high priority again.

When I used to work for Herts Rent-a-Car at Heathrow in 86 (when they had their compound within the airport confines) my job was to ferry customers between the terminals and check in.

I was told to give a high standard of service by helping with luggage. The americans tipped more than the rest. The Japanese hardly tipped at all, but this was due to their culture as tipping is or was very rare, only when you've kept staff up at a hotel bar until 3 in the morning. The brits were reasonable as you'd expect. Women tipped a lot less than men, Business and No 1 customers NEVER tipped.

Occasionally customers asked what the accepted practice was. My response was usually along the lines of "It is at your discreasion sir, I am paid an hourly rate and I always try to look after the customers as part of my job". When asked the amount I told them that should they be willing to make a gesture then the amount most often given is £1.
Tipping - DrS
I do a fair mileage, and have consequently picked up a number of bullet holes in the windscreen: Seems that it is a standard line in patter after the guy has fixed the chip, that he has saved you a fifty quid insurance excess payment, which you would have had to have paid, if you had needed a new screen.
The illusion is further enhanced by his sucking of air throughout the operation, explaining that it's touch and go whether the screen cracks or not as he pumps in the resin.
Does anyone ever tip these guys, and do the screens ever crack?