Like many here i have been driving a few years now and was wondering at what time did filtering onto dual carrageways and motorways involve forcing motorists already on said roads to brake or swerve across instead of giving way and filtering on when safe to do so?.
Now when you approach a slip and you have traffic on your right you have to watch the cars comming down the slip to see if they are going to watch your speed and then go faster than you so they can pull in front, or are they going to pull out anyway making you brake,or are they going speed up to 70, see that there is nowhere for you to go and then brake hard and wait on the slip.
Glen
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You are supposed to make appropriate adjustments to your speed and distance to allow merging traffic to do just that. What's the problem?
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Just what i said, they force you to take avoiding action, if you are boxed in with overtaking traffic on your right some will come out as though there is no priority.
Its been a while since i have read the Highway Code , but was'nt it always that traffic on the road you are joinging has priority and you give way, not visa versa.
Glen
off to buy a new Highway Code as I am obviously out of date .
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Its been a while since i have read the Highway Code , but was'nt it always that traffic on the road you are joinging has priority and you give way, not visa versa.
Yes!
Joining the motorway
Rule 233: When you join the motorway you will normally approach it from a road on the left (a slip road) or from an adjoining motorway.
You should
give priority to traffic already on the motorway
check the traffic on the motorway and adjust your speed to fit safely into the traffic flow in the left-hand lane
not cross solid white lines that separate lanes
stay on the slip road if it continues as an extra lane on the motorway
remain in the left-hand lane long enough to adjust to the speed of traffic before considering overtaking.
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It is not merging traffic, there is a "Give way" line at the bottom of the slip roads, so the traffic entering onto the motorway/d-cw should be giving way, not forcing other vehicles to have to take some sort of action to avoid them. I used to move over and make way for traffic, not any more, I don't adjust my speed or move over now, it is up to them to find a spot to enter into. It still amazes me the number of people that do not even look to see what is in lane 1 until they are right at the end of the slip road, many get a shock when they realise it's 44t of artic that they have to avoid - but b4 people jump on the bandwagon, I do exactly the same in the car.
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I'll usually adjust speed to allow someone in (just one, mind!) if the change in my speed doesn't need to be too dramatic (i.e. not having to brake late, plus they've got a bit of speed up).
The issue for me is people on slip roads NOT looking in their mirrors and taking account of speed and density of traffic and, like you say, expecting people to let them in.
If someone is being pushy, in any circumstances, they generally won't get let in.
But at the end of the day I am more concerned for my safety than whether someone pushes in or not.
As someone said here some time back, "Better late in this world than early in the next". Whoever said that, thanks: I've quoted it often to friends & family...
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As someone said here some time back, "Better late in this world than early in the next".
Or on your tombstone: "I was in the right, you know"
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"I'll usually adjust speed to allow someone in (just one, mind!) if the change in my speed doesn't need to be too dramatic (i.e. not having to brake late, plus they've got a bit of speed up)."
Same here smokie. In most cases its the ones which aren?t quite sure if they want to go or not, probably thinking they're going to cut me up. I'll give them a flash or two, to let them know its safe to go, and the majority are happy to oblige.
My greatest annoyance is those that stick to the solid white line on the left side of the slip road. Eventually, this 'guides' their car on to the carriage way. It takes three times as long for them to join as a result, and in nearly all cases they could have been out 100s of meters before.
As for me, I?ll join ASAP. (If I?m not out before half way, I begin to panic :-))
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If the motorway is quiet, you find most drivers will pull out of lane 1 into lane 2 when coming up to a joining sliproad so as to make it easy for those joining-fair enough.
However I think people are becoming increasingly expectant of this, so they just drift out into lane 1 from the sliproad, unaware that lane 2 is full so where has the car in lane 1 got to go? Evasive action or into the back of them.
Presumption-a big danger out there!
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I had a situation on Friday on the A48 near Cardiff which has a 'Give Way' signed slip road, it didn't stop the guy in the red beemer almost taking the side of my car off as he treat it like a motorway slip road. If it hadn't been 4.30 pm rush hour traffic on a Friday evening I would have pulled over, I left enough gap for one person to pull out but this guy was intent on following him. The driver of the J reg beemer also seemed to have a problem finding the light switch, but after a few miles he found said switch, but only moved it part way leaving him with just one sidelight glowing like a candle in the dark!
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