This is a sad reflection of modern society - you should be able to leave posessions in a locked car and expect them to still be there when you return. I can remember as a child in the early 1970's we often didn't lock the family car when we went into the village to do some shopping. Nowadays you are almost relieved to find that your car hasn't been stolen or broken into, when you leave it for an hour or two. Tough on crime and tough on the sources of crime? Come off it Blair, you're having another laugh at our expense again.
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"This is a sad reflection of modern society blah blah"
What planet were you born on?
I love this romantic take we all have on the good all days even if it is absolute nonsense. It certainly is a sad reflection of society, but don?t try and convince me it?s a new thing. I was a child of the early 70s too, born in Ancoats and raised between there, Ardwick, Belle Vue and Denton in Manchester and believe me, we locked everything. If it wasn?t riveted in place, it was nicked. It was violent and it was grey. By the time I was 18 I?d lost most of my front teeth in fights, I?ve got 3 metal plates in my face, everybody had at least one Cortina stolen and we all had a hookey video recorder. There was vandalism, graffiti, poverty, animal cruelty and serious drink drive problems. I could go on for hours. We had Hindley and Brady, Fred West was hard at work, Harold Shipman was just starting his grisley rounds. And STILL my mam talks like you do.
I?m not complaining, 150 years ago I would have been working in Style Mill at 6 years old, 300 years ago I?d have been hung for nicking apples. The reality is that the further back you look, the more violent and lawless society becomes.
Your car wasn?t broken into in 1974 because it didn?t have a TomTom Go, aCD player or an ipod. Your house didn?t have a flat screen TV or a PC. I think what you?re doing is confusing reality with Heartbeat where Nick Berry feels the collar of Greengrass for nicking pub ashtrays while The Mamas and Papas are playing on the wireless. It never happened.
I like where we are now. Plod might not care about your TomTom Go but two weeks after a major terrorist attack, he?s tracked ?em down and arrested ?em all.
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Have to agree with BBD,
thefts from vehicles have been well known now for many years so everyone should know that the chances of someone breaking into your car is reasonably high if you leave evidence that you have something worth a few hundred quid in the car which is easy to sell on. Best idea is NEVER leave anything on show unless you're prepared to lose it.
Better safe than sorry, it might take you a few extra seconds to remove your valuables but at least you'll still have them afterwards !!
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I am taking the liberty of repeating this warning.....for the benefit of any Backroomers who were away on holiday when it was first posted.
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Saw a Merc parked up last week - Garmin Streetpilot stuck on top of the dash, no one near the car.
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The Garmin bean-bag mount is very useful. GPS and mount can be removed easily without trace, and, surprisingly, it works OK; have tried it on all sorts of roads, corners, etc., and it doesn't move.
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Mercedes,Citroen and few others need to use an outside ariel so if you do not remove that its a giveaway.Also does anybody know where I get Garmin street level UK disc?
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Garmin use Mapsource mapping software and maps.
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Wish i could say the same...tried it in my 330D and the satnav decided to sit on the passenger seat after a small flight rearwards. I wasn't hanging around, but it wasn't foot on the floor either. I actually removed the permanent mount when this thread started!
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I love this romantic take we all have on the good all days even if it is absolute nonsense. It certainly is a sad reflection of society, but don?t try and convince me it?s a new thing. I was a child of the early 70s too, born in Ancoats and raised between there, Ardwick, Belle Vue and Denton in Manchester and believe me, we locked everything.
I was brought up in rural Norfolk in the 60's & we too locked doors etc.
Crime was not the problem it is in inner city area's now, but someone tried to drag a school friend into a car & our area had it's share of thefts etc.
The real problem is not that crime is more a problem, but that individual criminals are, as the majority of crime is committed by the same prolific few.
Nothings new & everything is not worse now.
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I moved mine to the centre of the dash to be less obvious.
There's no way I'm removing that arm after the time and effort it took fixing it there. Of course, I take the unit itself out every day unless I'm at home so at worst, I'll have a broken window which is bad in itself but I worthwhile risk compared to lining the arm up at exactly the right angle every day ;-)
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I leave the mount on the windscreen, empty your dash and armrest cubbies and leave them open wide, so everyone can see there is nothing in there. Not much more you can do...
Mind you that didn't stop chavy teenagers from nicking all of my Nissan wheel trims. You can ebay anything these days it seems.
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I ignored the advice and left the mount on there.....and got broken into on fireworks night (firework explosions hide the smash i guess!)
They took the mount and opened the glovebox. obviously nothing there though.
How irritating. And particularly upsetting because i had read this thread and ignored it. Had a car with the mount for years and no worries til now. Mind you, i just bought the car (ex lease car, 2 year old) and it has an existing integrated phone crade, an integrated pda cradle, my removable (now removed) pda gps cradle and my removable £7 phone mount. Must have looked quite interesting!
So beware
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>>What planet were you born on?>>
My parents were born in Liverpool and my grandmother and my mother's sister lived about six doors from each other in Liverpool 6.
I recall as a youngster in the 1940s and most of the 1950s that both houses rarely had the front or back doors locked and that friends and neighbours were constantly popping in and out.
Nothing was ever stolen and no one who shouldn't enter the premises ever did so, whilst my aunt's husband's car was never tampered with nor our own when we visited several times a month.
Today it's an entirely different story unfortunately.....@=(
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I was a youngster in the east end in the 50's Its true the doors were never locked. Its due to the fact that there was nothing to nick, and elders had to get access to the kids to slap them for crying because mum wasnt home (she was either working in some sweat shop in aldgate or fallen down drunk in some gutter in custom house)
Cars were never broken into. My grandad ran the local tea leaf ring out of the east india dock. Mess with him and you got a dockers hook in the back of your knees. His van was never touched, and no one else had a car or a van.
Talking of the docks, 60% of what landed from ships made it out of the gate to its rightful owners. The rest was "spoilt". To get a job for the day you had to pay the foreman or caller on.
Good ole days? your'e avin a laff incha?
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