Despite my wife's usual efficiency in all things paper based she has lost the paper part of her photocard licence - she hasn't needed it until now when she needs to hire a car. The silver lining is that in looking for it all our paperwork has now been sorted out, all I need now is an industrial shredder!
I looked on the DVLA website and was encouraged to see you can order replacement licences over the phone with nothing more than a debit card. I sent her the link and she rang them up. She explained she has lost the paper part and was told she needed to fill in a form and apply by post. She queried the information given on the website that she could order a replacement over the phone she was told that this only applied where you had lost BOTH parts of the licence! She put the phone down and she immediately 'lost' her photocard so she called back, a new photocard and supplementary paperwork are on the way!
Is life really so complicated, or do the DVLA enjoy making it so?
PS The irony is the car hire company don't need to see the paper part, just another form of ID!
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I think the idea is that if you send away your card with the paper application. Silly I know, and no more cheaper.
I lost my card a few years ago. Tip: keep the nice clear wallet they send you when you first apply; if you send it back they don't send you another one :-(
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Mike Farrow
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Is there a 'marker' on the Counterpart that ties it in with the Plastic Licence to prevent fraud hence the need to replace both if only the counterpart is lost?
Bear in mind very dodgy possession of two Licences. Make sure the alleged lost one is shredded asap.
DVD
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Is there a 'marker' on the Counterpart that ties it in with the Plastic Licence to prevent fraud hence the need to replace both if only the counterpart is lost?
Yes there's an issue date.
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Mike Farrow
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I've ended up with two complete sets of licences, both paper and card. I thought I had lost the first set and found it after the second set had been with me for a few weeks.
it is very handy (for legal reasons). I keep the card in my wallent and paper bit in my briefcase. The second set is all together where we keep papers safe.
This is great as for when I got pulled for speeding a few weeks ago (no points; phew), I didn't need a producer for the licence as I had all the bits with me.
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Espada III - well if you have a family and need a Lamborghini, what else do you drive?
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Can anyone enlighten me why the paper part of the licence is required anyway? Many parts of the world have card licences, but I think the UK is alone in requiring you to carry a paper as well as the card. Perhaps it's all down to the title of the thread.
Interestingly, here in New Zealand, we have card licences, and not carrying it is an offence. $150, thank you. No option to produce at a police station within 7 days. Just think if we had to carry around the green paper as well!
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I believe it is because the card doesn't carry information on points: When they introduced the system the Govt. had to decide whether to spend the extra (or, perhaps, to get us to) to have an all in one card system, but baulked and went for the two parts.
Tim{P}
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Why is it necessary for the driver to carry around the information on how many demerit points he has? This is held on a central computer system and is available to any police officer who has the licence in his hand. If the points accumulated are over the statutory limit, then the licence is retained by the officer, and the driver walks home. (This happened recently to my son here in New Zealand, he exceeded the demerits within a certain time, so it was three months loss of licence.)
Perhaps when the system was introduced in the UK, there wasn't a central licensing computer, so the driver had to look after his own demerit points. Surely now the system is computerised (it is in the UK too now isn't it?) the paper part can just be discarded. I know that for the five years I lived and drove in the UK, I never carried the paper part. Mind you, I was never stopped or ticketed. In fact, I never spoke to a policeman in any capacity while I was there. I came back here and had about three speeding tickets in two years, grrr.
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Tip: keep the nice clear wallet they send you when you first apply; if you send it back they don't send you another one :-(
They don't send you one at all these days, not even for a first application :-(( Presumably someone decided that it was costing too much.
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