Yet another mention (on BBC breakfast TV news) about the increase in fatal road accidents caused by the higher numbers of 4X4's on the road, coupled with a statistically higher risk of accidents (as there are more of them on the road) coupled with them hitting smaller cars and killing the occupants.
What to do? What to do? Who knows! Saw an article in the paper about makers going away from making saloons and hatchbacks, making more 4X4's and MPV's.
Obviously gonna cause a lot of unhappiness to the "Ban 4X4 brigade"
Are the stats selective to put pressure on local authorities to ban them from their streets?
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Also there are more Smarts, Aixams etc on the road - I know Smarts are quite strong cars but does this mean we shouldn't be driving Golfs, Focuses and Astras because they might kill Smart or Aixam drivers in a collision?
Cheers, SS
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Maybe Private/Light Goods class vehicles should be limited to 2 tonnes unladen weight. Discovery, Maybach, Phantom .....tough!!!
Cheers, Sofa Spud
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Also there are more Smarts, Aixams etc on the road - I know Smarts are quite strong cars but does this mean we shouldn't be driving Golfs, Focuses and Astras because they might kill Smart or Aixam drivers in a collision?
The bumper of a Focus will hit a Smart in the area designed to take the impact, but the Toyota Amazon/Mitsu Shogun/etc will hit it much higher, with an unyielding ladder chassis.
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Unless I reversed into the said Smart. The gorgeous lines of the saloon require a high bumper.
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Adam
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Unless I reversed into the said Smart. The gorgeous lines of the saloon require a high bumper.
I thought you like your car, particularly its rear end. Why do you go reversing it into things? ;-)
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After spending hours here, I may be in a state of temporary insanity and decide to drive everywhere backwards.
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Adam
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Adam... the log out button can be found to your right. :)
Although most media have taken the "all 4x4s are evil" line with this study, what it actually says is:
More people are buying small cars, and more people are buying large 4x4s, i.e. not so many people are buying the ones in the middle of those two groups.
When a big 4x4 hits a small car, the small car comes off worse... no massive feat of brain required to work that out.
With the above two statements in mind, collisions involving 4x4s and small cars have increased (because the amount of them on the road has increased), and your chances of dying are greater if you're in the small car. Again, no surprise there really.
Well that's how I read it anyway.
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Although most media have taken the "all 4x4s are evil" line with this study, what it actually says is: More people are buying small cars, and more people are buying large 4x4s, i.e. not so many people are buying the ones in the middle of those two groups. When a big 4x4 hits a small car, the small car comes off worse... no massive feat of brain required to work that out. With the above two statements in mind, collisions involving 4x4s and small cars have increased (because the amount of them on the road has increased), and your chances of dying are greater if you're in the small car. Again, no surprise there really. Well that's how I read it anyway.
Can't disagree with that - years ago when 4x4s were basically bought by farmers, plus the odd plutocrat with a Range Rover, I decided that big cars were safer than small cars, so chose the former when possible.
Nothing has changed. I have never crashed into anybody, but I have been the crashee a couple of times - once a very heavy rear end impact, so unless everybody else is having a small car, I'll have a big one, thanks. It's just a version of the prisoner's dilemma.
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>>After spending hours here, I may be in a state of temporary insanity and decide to drive everywhere backwards
Adam, made me laugh out loud, first time today (well, including Monday anyhow)
I think I've expressed my distain at the growth of 4x4s and my agreement with Red Ken.
However, on a lighter note I think everyone currently driving WARRIORs, RANGE ROVERS and assorted extra big mobiles will eventually find that the only thing that gives them that special big feeling in a world of everyone in 4x4s is the CXT.....
www.internationaldelivers.com/site_layout/xtfamily...p
You knows it.
-- Lee Having a Fabialous time.
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You couldn't make this stuff up...
>>Inside the cab, outstanding headroom, belly room and legroom ensure maximum driver and passenger comfort.
From the promotional blurb of the International 9900i interior spec. I love this site :
www.internationaldelivers.com/site_layout/vehiclec...2
-- Lee Having a Fabialous time.
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Lee - tell me you wouldn't want one though!
It has the Eagle trim!!! (Whatever the hell that is)
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Adam
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Eagle trim is for henpecked husbands...
madf
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Eagle trim...Feathers and a big nose then...
In a funny kind of way I'd quite like one, would be worth it just to scare the bejesus out of the endless procession of school run 4x4s around us...
I'm fascinated that they also do an MXT which is only the size of a bin wagon and a modest RXT (?) that is the size of an 8 berth static caravan. Best site I've found in ages...
-- Lee Having a Fabialous time.
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From the promotional blurb of the International 9900i interior spec.
Thta's more like it! The other one was a bit small for the school run ;-)
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"A century of leadership in the truck industry"?
I thought they made combine'arvesters!
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I'm buying a Fiat Panda 4x4, i.e. both a small car and a 4x4. Where does that leave me in an accident?
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You'd die but at least you'd have annoyed the hell out of everyone!
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Adam
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I'm buying a Fiat Panda 4x4, i.e. both a small car and a 4x4. Where does that leave me in an accident?
The testers say that that the Panda 4X4 is very slow, so it probably leaves you miles away from the accident :)
Nice car, though -- the only 4X4 I'd be tempted by.
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Not sure, but you'd really confuse Ken. He wouldn't know whether to ban you, or congratulate you for driving a small car.
Are you getting bull-bars fitted to it? ;)
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Are you getting bull-bars fitted to it? ;)
On a Panda, surely they would have to be called calf-bars? :)
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oh dear. We're compensating for the lack of Friday this week, aren't we.
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Easter special offer: Friday all week.
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