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driving in france - derek
hi, im thinking of taking kids on holiday to frane next year
camping around nantes area,
does anyone have any tips or hints about said venture or hints on driving abroad

i was thinking a keycamp or eurocamp around that region as i dont want to go too far in, as i have never driven abroad at all

but seeing some of the "dopes" in the office do it every year i think i could do it

appreciated your hints
driving in france - Xileno {P}
We are off to France this Friday and have been about three times a year since 1989. No problems driving in France, roads are less congested. Motorways are tolled, can pay by credit card though if you want. Watch out for priority a droite in towns. Gendarmes very hot on speeding now and drink-driving.
There are certain things you have to carry such as spare bulbs.
Enjoy!
driving in france - derek
what about nante area is it nice
ive heard tips about putting your watch on your other hand does anyone else no any good ideas,

id get of the ferry and go "arrrrrrrrrhhhhhhh"

on the left handside probably as well
driving in france - Ex-Moderator
On driving abroad generally there are some hints to help;

Don't drive when you're tired. If you're ever going to make a mistake, then it will be when you are over tired and you end up on the wrong side of the road.

Don't try to rush, especially in towns. Its much better to irritate the guy behind you then it is to slam into someone in front. Just take it easy, don't try and navigate and drive, have someone else do the navigation. Don't let the kids distract you, and if its all getting too much, take a break.

Be careful when you turn out of petrol stations, carparks, one-way streets or similar. That is a prime time to screw up which side of the road you are on.

When I first did it I found it easier than I thought to forget which was the correct side, especially in complicated junctions in towns. Eventually I remembered that whatever else was going on, I as the driver had to be closest to the kerb. Find some such guide which works for you so that if you ever do get confused you can fall back on that.

If you take the wrong turning, and you will. Don't panic. Just take the one you've taken, turn around at a safe place and come back. Suddenly trying to abort or change your turn may well cause an accident.

At complicated junctions try and spot a french car going your way and follow the path he takes. You may or may not be obeying the law, but you'll probably be safer than getting it wrong.

Country roads are easier because there is less traffic and less junctions, but equally potentially tricky because its easy to drift onto the other side of the road.

Remember you're on holiday. Success on a holiday is not getting there quickly, its getting there safe and calm. Relax and don't drive like you are in England. Don't let the tailgaters wind you up - those loads of them, just get out of their way and let them get on with it. Just don't see the driving as any kind of macho "something to prove" type endeavor.

More as I, and others, think of it.
driving in france - doctorchris
Try this comprehensive website
www.day-tripper.net/drive-infrance.html#Anchorgene...o
driving in france - doctorchris
How do I turn this reference to a website into a blue hyperlink?
driving in france - Dynamic Dave
How do I turn this reference to a website into a blue hyperlink?


It's mentioned here:
www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=11017

But the bottom line is that you have to add http:// before the www bit.

I have edited the link, btw.

D.
driving in france - PR {P}
If you're booking your own ferry (ie not part of the deal) then book as soon as you can, you often get better prices. Try www.speedferries.com very cheap deals at the moment (£19 return I think)
driving in france - Jim M
I agree with all above especially following other cars at complicated junctions. If you mess up just don't get flustered, you are on holiday just turn around and start again. If you are unlucky enough to arrive at a junction alone I always check the road markings. Remember you are a tourist and most people will help rather than hinder.
Have a great time
Jim
driving in france - mountainkat
think there are 2 different types of driving in France - City centre & rural / semi-rural. On the whole outside of the city centres the French are only slightly more unpredictable than us but think this all changes in busy city centres, particularly when everyone is going to/coming from work. Best avoided these times if possible as driving can get pretty scary - the rule is EXPECT THE UNEXPECTED, lane discipline is non-existant & traffic lights don't always prove significant. If it's your first time it may come as a bit of a shock but to be honest you soon get used to it.

One thing you will notice is that you don't see many French people driving around city centres in flash cars, probably due to the fact that minor collisions are pretty common & also parking can be very difficult in some of the major cities so smaller cars tend to be the preferred choice.

All in all though if you keep your wits about you shouldn't be any real problem

have fun !!
driving in france - mlj
Derek:
I don't know where you are based but if Nantes is your preferred destination the ferry from Plymouth to Roscoff will save you hours of driving in France.
Unless you are hellbent on camping I would recommend looking at gites as a much cheaper option than a holiday centre. Loads of choice in the area. Good luck!
PS We have been doing this sort of holiday in this area for over ten years, if you need any info get in touch.
driving in france - derek
great will do


someone at a school party was talking about it and my missus has this romantic notion of caravans, i do not, so a soprt of compromise was that part of the world rather than ormskirk, im in manchester by the way, we are thinking of getting an hdi picasso so im not worried about it braking dsown
driving in france - PhilW
Some good advice above - main thing is to take your time and not get flustered. When my children went abroad for first time my wife made a big red arrow to blutack to the dashboard pointing to the right, but I think you will find that after a few minutes it comes naturally. BUT, I would say, never cross the road to get petrol, shops etc because it is too easy to pull out again on the wrong side - always park on right hand side of roads. Also remember that the French have a tendency to sign directions AT the junction rather than before it ! So be prepared!
Good site for route planning is
www.viamichelin.com/viamichelin/gbr/tpl/hme/MaHome...m

for traffic information
www2.bison-fute.equipement.gouv.fr/

for tips on driving abroad
www.theaa.com/allaboutcars/overseas/europe_advice....l

Incidentally, the Caravan Club has some cracking deals on Eurotunnel this year - I have booked for £180 this summer (£247 was cheapest ferry I could find and that was sialing at a very unsociable middle of the night time) and even with car alone at Whit holiday I saved £70. Cost of joining CC is £32. Only prob is that you can only get a quote if you are a member but I could look it up for you if you give me times to see if it's worthwhile.
You will wonder what you worried about when you get back!!


driving in france - T Lucas
I have been to the Atlantic coast of France many times in the last 10 years with the kids and have always used Keycamp,usually a little dearer than the others,but there is a difference in quality.French campsites are great for kids of all ages,they will always make friends and have fun,exactly what holidays are for.When you make your booking read the brochure discription carefully,if it says its very busy and great for teenagers you might not like it if you have very young kids.
The driving is very easy,i always use the overnight Portsmouth to St Malo,very relaxing,so not much of a drive in France.
driving in france - Rebecca {P}
Remember that once off the motorway, petrol stations are often NOT open 24 hours or long hours/Sundays as they are here. Many will close for lunch too. UK credit cards (even chip & pin) do not work at the pump - but are fine when paying in the kiosk/shop (not much help when closed).

Plan ahead to make sure you have enough fuel!
driving in france - Altea Ego
Done a fair amount of European driving, and off to France (the Vendee) this year.

Marks tip about the kerb is the one I use and works for me. YOu are much more likely to drive on the wrong side when pulling out on to quiet roads. You very quickly get used to it. And watch it when you come back, I did drive on the wrong side when we got back!

Take out a good insurance, AA 5 star or similar.

Dont drive too far without breaks, be French, stop for coffee and nibbles often.

Relax and enjoy, driving in France is one of lifes joys. (except Paris and the Periphique!)
driving in france - doctorchris
About remembering to drive on the right in France, I may be weird because I'm left handed, but I find I completely reorientate my left and right. Don't do it deliberately. It causes problems though because if someone tells me to turn left I turn right instead.
driving in france - Bromptonaut
I'd endorse others comments about camping, the French do it far better than we do. Sites are a safe environment for kids and they'll soon make lots of friends - even without common lingo. Look at other companies brochures and see if they use Keycamp's sites as well, differing perspectives and all that. Allan Rogers guide for independent campers is also very good.

Make your passenger work as observer/navigator. In towns I find it enormously helpful to have eyes scanning well ahead for traffic lights (French lights less conspicuous than UK type) and for junctions. French signs make extensive use of "Toute/Autre Directions" and only show actual destinations at the last minute.

Don't try to go too far in a day in your first visit. France is a big country and it's easy to be mislead by small scale maps. We tried Dieppe to Alsace on our first trip; booked sites etc and only worked out it was over 400 miles when I got the map out the night before.
driving in france - derek
Im left as well actually, i wonder if its a help or hinderance or nothing when driving abroad?
driving in france - Glaikit Wee Scunner {P}
I agree with Bromptonaut. Other tips-
Signs for 'straight on' at a junction do not have the arrow pointing up in the air , as per UK, and are likely to look like turn left , but be mounted at 45 degrees on the corner.
Motorways may have three different Type numbers E, N and A.
European, National and Autoroute (motorway)
The numbers can appear in all permutations and combinations, especially on a sign with multiple destinations.
Know the names of the towns that are on your route. Signs can refer to the next town or one a couple of hundred kilometres away.
Have a good time. I will.
--
I wasna fu but just had plenty.
driving in france - Ex-Moderator
>>Im left as well actually, i wonder if its a help or hinderance or nothing when driving abroad?

I'm ambidextrous. I have absolutely no issue driving on either side of the road or switching back and forward between the two. Whether that is because I'm ambidextrous or because I have done it so much (about half my driving life on each side), I couldn't tell you.
driving in france - Ex-Moderator
>>I have absolutely no issue driving on either side of the road

p.s. not even on a motorbike.
driving in france - Altea Ego
"I'm ambidextrous"

But according to DD you cant use either hand to get your wallet out!
driving in france - Ex-Moderator
Like he'd know !! Mr Dosh and I spend many a happy and inebriated time together but Dodgy Dave is always busy stopping big nasty things blowing up, or some such excuse.
driving in france - Dynamic Dave
Mr Dosh and I spend many a happy and inebriated time together


You want to be careful admitting things like that, or soon you'll be wanting blue washer jets for the crusier.
driving in france - johnny
French roads put UK ones to shame. Be careful when following little signs for petrol stations, they can take you miles off your route. Also when exiting onto a sliproad, the road often curves away very suddenly, so be careful.
French drivers like to tailgate but I don't think it's aggressive, they just do it.

driving in france - Sofa Spud
I've found in general that French drivers are no worse or better than British ones. (I've never been to Paris, though). However French BAD drivers are really BAD.

One thing to watch out for. In France there are many stretches of single-carriageway main roads that run dead straight for miles. Some drivers, including HGVs, tend to use these roads as you would a dual carriageway, using the oncoming lane as a 'fast lane'for passing long lines of slower traffic. These drivers duck back in when something's coming the other way, then straight back out again. The sort of thing you see fast bikers doing here, except in BMWs, Transits and 44 tonne trucks. Scary!

Sometimes you get whole lines of vehicles folowing an HGV down the wrong side of the road. The HGV cuts in at the last minute to avoid another oncoming heavy, leaving the following vehicles with nowhere to go. Happens here in UK too, but not so much.

Cheers, SS