As Hugo said..You can also inform them as to times they go out/So they can catch them out..Has been done not far from me.
Turned out they had no insurance or MOT.
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You could use this: unlicensed.use@dvla.gsi.gov.uk. It might not be anonymous! In the NW there is a phone number: 08000 325 202, but whether it still works I know not. It was anon to users.
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I have used the email address on several occasions for several cars parked not far from where I live, and the system works as they are all now taxed (another first). It is also anon. Like most of you I resent renewing mine and seeing a few others 6+ months out of date just getting away with it.
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I have registered for one purpose only -- to express my utter revulsion by this thread. The common informer is always a stain on society. He is alive and well on here.
If you paragons of virtue feel so strongly about it, then have the guts the to tell the man to his face, and make him realise the error of his ways. Have you any idea what may lie behind that untaxed vehicle? Does it ever enter your sanctimonious heads that somewhere there could a poor woman struggling to keep her head above water? Have you any idea of the further tragedy your cowardly action may cause? Virtue is easy for those with money.
Don't give me that Marie Antoinette stuff about "if they can't find the road tax they shouldn't run a car". I have been on my beam ends for a couple of years, struggling both to find work and to support a young family. My banger -- something you people would sneer at as a chavmobile -- was our family's lifeline, costing around 25% of public transport for the four four of us. Yes, it was insured. Yes, it was in safe condition. Yes, it had an MOT. But often, when cash simply wasn't there, I would have to leave the (always 6-month -- I could never run to the cheaper 12 months) road fund licence for a month. And yes, I always paid the back tax when I did register it, but if some snooping busybody had shopped me at that time then we would have gone under.
But I'm wasting my breath. The moderators will declare this 'non-motoring' and sanitise the site by ejecting this chav. But I feel better for having said it.
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Oh -- and before someone tells me that if I can afford a computer I can pay my taxes, the situation I describe was over twenty years ago. I am no longer in that situation, thank God, but my heart goes out to those who are, for no fault of their own.
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Now if it hadn't been for your last comment I would have had no issue with your note. I don't agree with it, but I would have had no issue with it.
Why did you bother with the last paragraph ? The other person who uses your keyboard wouldn't have done that.
Nonetheless, there is no bad language, it is on topic, you're not having a go at someone personally (although you're pushing it) so I'll let it stand for now.
So back off on the overly emotive stuff, and don't fire arrows in our direction.
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I think a good point is made, though.
One person's luxury may be another's necessity.
Motoring is taxed as a luxury, but for some it is the only way to get to work e.g. a police officer on shifts finishing at midnight or starting/finishing at 6am.
A poor family can't afford UK train fares.
Yet a well-paid executive in a 9-5 job has his transport subsidised.
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Yet a well-paid executive in a 9-5 job has his transport subsidised.
SUBSIDISED - Like Hell
I pay enough income tax to support TWO families in addition to my own and have to pay for a son to go to university out of what is left - and pay VAT on all that.
I choose to have a company car for the comfort of knowing all the bills are paid but lets make no mistake - it is not subsidised - I am doing the subsidising!
And since when was it 9-5! Contract states whatever hours are necessary so recently has been 07:30 - 20:00. O for an hourly paid job!
Head down and wait for the response!
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I was thinking of commuter fares, where trains are used for a couple of hours morning and evening and stand in the sidings for the rest of the day, not company cars, sorry for not making that clear.
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There should be a local income tax / residence tax to cover the subsidies to LT, and the PTEs. Then those that benefit from them most would pay and perhaps we would see a coutry where less was centred on the capital travel would be easier!
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. But often, when cash simply wasn'tthere, I would have to leave the (always 6-month -- I could never run to the cheaper 12 months) road fund licence for a month.
You couldn't do that now - you'd get an automatic penalty from the DVLA.
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Re " residence tax to cover the subsidies to LT, and the PTEs" you dont understand how the finances work
If London and and x mile radius around it were an independant country it would be much richer than the rest of the UK put together
Scotland is highly subsidised by the south east of england, yet they get better deal on higher education, better health service, than those in south east funding it
Northen Ireland is highly subsidised by the rest of the UK
Wales is cash negative
The south east and those who work there more than pay there way, although many of the people who work there are formally resident in other parts of the country
Scottish health secretary imposing sub 3rd world health treatment on the English
The governement redistributes wealth in a big way and very unfairly
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I couldn't agree more. I am earning well above the national average wage but financially, I am really struggling and have to count the pennies. It's all well and good if you live *and work* in a large town (sadly, with house prices as they are today, I couldn't afford a house in an even half-decent area around here and I work out in the sticks where forms of public transport are rarer than hens' teeth). I just cannot imagine how some people manage to survive on a minimum wage. For some people, a car really is a necessity and it is very short-sighted to just assume that these people want to cheat the system.
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tax disc should be funded by modest increase in fuel duty
everyone is then on pay as you go
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"If you paragons of virtue feel so strongly about it, then have the guts the to tell the man to his face, and make him realise the error of his ways."
If you're lucky a tax disc will appear in the next few days.
If you're unlucky you will get a torrent of abuse for your efforts.
If you're very unlucky you will get ongoing abuse, damage to property etc etc.
I've tried it and got the first two (thankfully not the third, and in the first instance my neighbour was very grateful for pointing out their expired disc.)
If you own a car and use it on the road, then it is the law that you tax it. There are plenty of excuses for breaking the law (see most speeding threads), but at the end of the day if you do break it you may have to pay the consequences.
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There's not much justification for the rant against the 'common informant'. Everyone I've ever met who's openly declared their hated of 'grasses' has been a habitual law/rule breaker.
I would tell the man to his face first. But if he ignored me, I'd inform. I don't pay my road tax to subsidise those who choose not to.
The point about reasons behind non-payment of road tax is valid, but I'm sure that for every one person in this situation there are hundreds who simply choose not to because they think they can get away with it and want to spend the money on something else.
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tax disc should be funded by modest increase in fuel duty everyone is then on pay as you go
i actually agree with you can you please be a bit more controversial i dont like it.. lol...cheers...keo
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