When we have their ear!
www.abd.org.uk/pr/127.htm
You aint seen nuthin yet :-]
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Only one comment comes to mind: DREADFUL
And there was I thinking that the Luddites died out in the nineteenth century
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Do we know which MP is introducing this Bill?.
We ought to see that he gets a lot of post spelling out that he does not have universal support !
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Please look at the date on the top of this Press Release - 24 January 1998! It obviously got nowhere when debated 4 years ago!
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Sorry Andy
We were typing our replies at the same time
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I may be missing something here , but the date on the press release is January 1998. Surely this has been and gone?
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Exactly.
Whilst you're endlessly talking about motoring: we're mobilising our forces to end motoring :-]
Piers
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Why do you want to end motoring, Piers?
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Is it true ?
Seems unbelievable that anybody would write and circulate something in such language, even if they believed it.
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If the exhaust has not a hole in it, it will either stop the engine or explode.
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it [the bill] seeks to reduce traffic by "policy, not compulsion"
policy/compulsion - what's the difference?
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They didn't "circulate" it: it "fell into the hands" of the that spawn of Satan: the ABD, tool of the capitalist oppressors of the downtrodden masses.
And why doubt that they believe it?
I and my fellow activists believe that non-public transport (official cars don't count) should be banned, roads should be dug up and grassed over, apes should have the vote, and that the human race is a virus threatening the planet which should be eliminated.
And we have people at the highest levels of government, including in senior positions in the UN, who will publicly attest to this :-]
A. Piers Green
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I thought I asked a reasonable question ?
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You did; unfortunately you asked it of an apparently unreasonable person
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I can confirm that.
Carla Lane said that man is a virus on the Earth and the best thing that could happen to Earth is for man to disppear.
I believe that all those who believe this should lead by example.
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I think Piers is a bit of a wind-up merchant. Probably owns a 2.8 Granada with a hole in the exhaust.
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Purlees!
I would never buy a car, and certainly not from a major capitalist behemoth.
And I only deign to borrow daddy's Bentley (without ever asking) as yet one more blow against bourgeois capitalist oppressors of the proletariat !:-]
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Have a look at:
The Morelia Declaration on Global Climate Change
A unique exchange has taken place. For the first time environmentalists, scientists, representatives from the active tribes of North and South America, political activists and writers from 20 countries have spent a week in Mexico discussing the state of the world as we approach the end of the millennium. Independently, but without exception, each participant expressed concern that life on our planet is in grave danger..................
............If the latter half of the 20th century has been marked by human liberation movements, the final decade of the second millennium will be characterized by liberation movements among species, so that one day we can attain genuine equality among all living things.
www.heartland.org/environment/jan00/morelia.htm
I know that we share 97% of our genes with monkeys (and 87% with cabbages - I made these figures up, but I don't think that they are far off ; - ), but............
Or:
From The Toxicity of Environmentalism (by George Reisman)
quotation from David M. Graber, a research biologist with the National Park Service
"This [man's "remaking the earth by degrees"] makes what is happening no less tragic for those of us who value wildness for its own sake, not for what value it confers upon mankind. I, for one, cannot wish upon either my children or the rest of Earth's biota a tame planet, be it monstrous or--however unlikely--benign. McKibben is a biocentrist, and so am I. We are not interested in the utility of a particular species or free-flowing river, or ecosystem, to mankind. They have intrinsic value, more value--to me--than another human body, or a billion of them.
"Human happiness, and certainly human fecundity, are not as important as a wild and healthy planet. I know social scientists who remind me that people are part of nature, but it isn't true. Somewhere along the line--at about a billion years ago, maybe half that--we quit the contract and became a cancer. We have become a plague upon ourselves and upon the Earth.
"It is cosmically unlikely that the developed world will choose to end its orgy of fossil-energy consumption, and the Third World its suicidal consumption of landscape. Until such time as Homo sapiens should decide to rejoin nature, some of us can only hope for the right virus to come along."
www.capitalism.net/grtoxic.htm
From Waiting For Greenhouse: They Said It
"No matter if the science is all phony, there are collateral environmental benefits....Climate change [provides] the greatest chance to bring about justice and equality in the world." Christine Stewart 1998, Canada's Minister of the Environment as quoted by the Calgary Herald
"We may get to the point where the ONLY WAY of saving the world will be for the industrial civilization to collapse." (Maurice Strong, Secretary General Rio Summit -- 1992)
www.john-daly.com/quotes.htm
And just in case you were wondering:
INTERNATIONAL MAN OF MYSTERY:WHO IS MAURICE STRONG?
iresist.com/cbg/strong.html
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This is a good example of a troll - someone who uses Internet newsgroups purely to try and start virtual fights. Don't feed the trolls - ignore them and they go and find someone else to annoy.
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