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Always have an escape route - Garethj
Yesterdays lesson on the roads was as above - cycling home on a 40mph stretch of a fairly wide A road through town yesterday evening, of course being passed by all the other traffic. I was about a foot from the kerb which just gives me clearance from the drain covers and doing about 10mph.

You learn to listen for the traffic coming up behind you as any buses can blow you off course a bit, and I could hear a big diesel engine which sounded like a truck. The tractor unit went past giving me about 3 feet of space - a little bit tight for such a big vehicle, especially when he could have gone wider without crossing the (dashed) white lines. It turned out to be a full size articulated lorry, and I was a little concerned when he started to pull in when only half the trailer was past me. Not as concerned as a second later when he kept on pulling in until the tractor units wheels were less than a foot from the kerb.

I didn't want to brake as I still had half the trailer unit next to me and after the briefest of mental discussions it wasn't the time to wobble about under hard braking so I dived off the bike and onto the grass verge separating the road from the pavement. Just before would have been a good time to check for roadside furniture like street lamps but luckily I was clear. A second or two of sliding along the grass and I was back on my feet and pretty much on my way again.

I don't know why the truck driver pulled in so sharply but on the ride in this morning I was more aware of escape routes just in case. Maybe I'm getting too old for this?
Always have an escape route - No Do$h
Glad you are still here to post this. Strange as this may sound, you're a lucky chap.
Always have an escape route - Robin Reliant
Brings back memories of a similar incident from my schooldays. I was passing a parked car when a tipper lorry overtook me and passed so closely that he actually touched my handlebars, forcing me to a stop against the car. It is probably the nearest I have come to death on the road, and still gives me a shiver when I think about it.

The attitude of many people towards bike riders is frightening. When I was instructing I often wished I had a pound for every pupil who said "I hate Cyclists". This from an age group who had not long been whizzing round on bikes themselves. I had more than one difference of opinion with other instructors who wanted cycling banned, and expressed no sympathy for cyclists who were injured in accidents.

Driving vehicles just turns a fair proportion of people into dangerous arrogant prats.
Always have an escape route - NowWheels
Gareth, I had a similar experience myself, on my bike more than twenty years ago -- except that in my case it was on an urban street and I landed on the concrete pavement, tho luckily I wasn't going fast.

As NoDosh says, you're lucky if your reactions hadn't been so quick, it could have been horrible. Well done!

Always have an escape route - SjB {P}
Pleased to read you escaped, and I share the sentiments of your post. A couple of years ago, I cycled from Aylesbury in Bucks to Winchcombe in Glos, and nearly didn't get past Waddesdon a few miles up the road from my start point.

Entering this small town on the A41, a juggernaut overtook me as I was but a handful of metres from the traffic island that marks the start of the 30 limit.

Having just checked my cycle speedo, I know that I was doing nearly 20MPH at the time, and had first noticed the truck a few seconds previously when I'd looked in the wide angle clip on mirror I use when not off road. I couldn't believe it when the truck, having slowed down and tucked in behind me, then started to overtake.

Thankfully, because I usually (strange this, ha ha!) use my mountain bike off road, it has a mechanism to lock my shoes to the pedals, and I was able to 'jump' the bike upwards and sideways straight on to the pavement. Having saved the situation, I raised a middle digit to the truck driver, and received a long blast from his air horns in return.

Charming.
Always have an escape route - Mark (RLBS)
SjB,

Have you got a personalised number plate on a Volvo which might make it obvious it was yours ?

If you have, we live very close to each other. If you haven't, then its a plate you need to find and buy.

Mark.
Always have an escape route - SjB {P}
No, not I, Sir!

This actually touches on one of my hobby horses, but I'll make it brief!

Each to their own either way - and rightfully so as long as our country remains free - but I find personal plates to be the last word in vanity, so one of my vehicles is the last place you'll find one. That they are also used to 'hide' the age of a car, that people contrive to make numbers equate to letters, and that there is consequently a market for them, I find even more sad. No offence meant to anyone. Just my point of view having been asked a question.
Always have an escape route - Mark (RLBS)
I can't see any problems with them at all, although its not something I would pay for.

But 0000SJB looked pretty good to me. I wasn't close enough to see how it was done, I'm guessing it must have been manipulated somehow.
Always have an escape route - SjB {P}
I have no problem with them either.
Ijust find this extension of vanity rather sad.

Anyway, 0000SJB: Let's take a look!

Given that we are talking about the Aylesbury area, where many cars are registered in Oxford, OO is a valid designator for the new style plates. The first O denotes Oxford, and the second O can exist as a result of the allowed range of A to Y.

The second set of 00 is probably a result of 03, with a coloured cap over the central arm of the three, so yes, manipulated as you suggest.

My guess is that we thus have a likely real plate of OO03 SJB.
Always have an escape route - Dynamic Dave
My guess is that we thus have a likely real plate
of OO03 SJB.


According to both the RAC and AA website, that numberplate is indeed attached to a Volvo. In fact the RAC also go on to suggest it's silver, a 5 dr hatchback, and runs on diesel.
Always have an escape route - Mark (RLBS)
That'd be the one.
Always have an escape route - MarkSmith
How do you find out this information, Dave, from the RAC or AA websites? Any chance of a link? (I've looked, couldn't find it.)

Ta,
Mark
Always have an escape route - Adam {P}
Forgive me Dave for butting in but seeing as I'm here;

www.rac.co.uk/myrac/login?source=&loggedOn=false&d...c

You need to register but it's free.
--
Adam
Always have an escape route - MarkSmith
Thank you very much, Adski!
Always have an escape route - Dynamic Dave
Forgive me Dave for butting in but seeing as I'm here;


And what about the AA one then?

Oh, ok I'll do it myself.

www.theaa.com/allaboutcars/cardatacheck/index.jsp?...e

Although it does say you have to pay, you actually don't for a basic search.
Always have an escape route - patently
Sorry to hear of that, Garethj. Been there, done that, had the bruises and the mangled wheel to prove it.

In my case, it was "just" a car, so I didn't hear anything until I found myself airborne and headed for the hedge. Did they stop? Don't make me laugh. That was 20 years ago or so; people still ask why I hang back behind cyclists until I can safely pull out around them.

IMHO, all new drivers should be made to cycle home from the testing station after passing, bearing a sign asking all drivers to pass without pulling out.
Always have an escape route - NowWheels
IMHO, all new drivers should be made to cycle home from the
testing station after passing, bearing a sign asking all
drivers to pass without pulling out.


For the removal of any doubt, I would to state that I have not yet figured out how to log in as patently.
Always have an escape route - patently
For the removal of any doubt, I would to state that
I have not yet figured out how to log in as
patently.


And given NW's postings in the swear filter thread, neither am I able to log in as her!
Always have an escape route - Mapmaker
Having spent a fair proportion of my adult life with a bicycle as the only means of transport (age 18-23) - and some of it with it as a significant means of transport (age 26-29) I'm pleased to say I agree with Patently (hello!).

I also think that anybody who tries to ride a bike in London is generally downright idiotic (though I know somewhere on this site there is a commuter who goes from ?Kings Cross to ?Holborn & loves it.) Cycling over the river is the quickest way to becoming an organ donor I can think of. They kill them off at a rate of knots, YET they continue to cycle over the river. Mad. IMHO a complete lack of proportion from people who will continue to cycle under such circumstances.

Always have an escape route - Bromptonaut
Quth Mapmaker
I also think that anybody who tries to ride a bike
in London is generally downright idiotic (though I know somewhere on
this site there is a commuter who goes from ?Kings Cross
to ?Holborn & loves it.)


Hello!, Euston to Chancery Lane in fact.


Cycling over the river is
the quickest way to becoming an organ donor I can think
of


It's Ok if you stick with the bridges.
Always have an escape route - NowWheels
>> Cycling over the river is the quickest way to
>> becoming an organ donor I can think of
It's Ok if you stick with the bridges.


Glad to hear that. I don't want donor organs filled with the Thames!
Always have an escape route - Bromptonaut
Mulling over Mapmaker's comments I think the road Garethj describes presents more dangers than Central London. Where traffic is moving stop start it's reasonably easy to maintain a good high position in the carriageway (what the semi-official manual "Cylecraft" describes as the primary riding position). Far too many of the organ donors went down the nearside of a moving bus or HGV; Darwin award stuff.

On an open road with traffic moving at 40+ its very difficult not to be intimidated by the noise of the stream of vehicles approaching from behind. Yet a foot out from the kerb a cycle just does not impinge on the driver's consciousness. It?s also in the debris zone, out of the visual sweep of the pedestrian waiting to cross and as Gareth observed has closed off its own escape route.

Give me Kingsway or Waterloo bridge any time rather than St Peter?s Way here in Nothampton.
Always have an escape route - Mapmaker
Mmmm, Bromptonaut, interesting.

I did, once, cycle in London. Down the OKR, in the cycle/bus lane. I got about 300 yards (towards Halfords) when I was overtaken by a bendy bus. You never did see old Mapmaker move so quickly off the road & onto the pavement. I found a more sensible route back until I had to cross Tower Bridge. Wheeewwgh! very scary too.


My ideal of cycling bliss is Cambridge. There's always a way round & you can avoid the busy roads. Moreover people expect bicycles so they look carefully.

In London, however, people resent those long haired lefties on their weird green machines. So there's no hope for a cyclist. I haven't been on a bike here since.

Always have an escape route - Hugo {P}
When I was a student I was nearly taken out by white van man on a bend in the road. Rather than escaping I just banged my fist on the side of the van. He would have definitely heard it.

I can understand car and van drivers being daft but truck drivers would normally be trained on their length of the trailer etc, so should not make the same mistake.

Mind you, although the vast majorety of truckers out there are good drivers you do get some homicidel maniacs!

H
Always have an escape route - Hugo {P}
Come to think of it, do we have any truckers here that would like to comment?

H
Always have an escape route - patently
My ideal of cycling bliss is Cambridge.


Ah... fond memories....

Except for the bus driver who pulled out from his stop without looking to see if I might be overtaking. Close one, that.

And the driver who pulled out of Tennis Court Road onto the (one-way) Downing Street, forgetting that there was a contra-flow cycle lane. With me in it. Wheeeeeeee..... bump.... ooh that tarmac is hard.

But yes, Cambridge was easily the best place to cycle around as a means of transport. And I miss it.
Always have an escape route - madux
You sound like Growler, Pat.