And, as far as I remember, French roundabouts have no lane markings on them, certainly the Arc de Triomph "roundabout" has none despite its 6 (?) exits and "lanes"! Mind you, they also have a far higher accident rate than us!
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"Muddle zones" are in my opinion dangerous!
I know a 40 limit road that was 60, and when it went to 40 there was so much street furniture added, part of it is no longer safe at 40.
When this happens, if you drive sensibly, you risk being tail ended by people who think the posted limit is the minimum speed.
As for discrimatory objects, the centre humps, often have no effect on a wide axled vehicle yet my three wheeler can only go over them at less that 10 mph. A lot of street furniture/objects are the same. In this case the height of the vehicle (think sight lines) often becomes significant, favouring 4x4s about sports cars, and trucks above them. Which can stop the fastest? Which hurts the most if you get hit by it...
Coo, I feel better for that.
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Roads today are rediculously cluttered, the road surface is covered in slogans, lines, patterns, different coloured dressings, chevrons, there is usually a forest of poles with slogans, and 'information'. We are run by control freaks, it's rediculous, look at some 10-20 year old phtos, street scenes were far more pleasant. There is too much information for a person to decipher at the rate it appears at, especially as they are supposed to be concentraing on driving, not playing 'flash cards', That's why most people seem to ignore 50% of signs, such as those saying things like..
Farnborough Road
Experimental Bus Lane
8.00 am - 9.00 am
People just look at BUS LANE on the road, and drive on the right.
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You're right there, Schnitzel. I used to regularly use the Barking Road near West ham football ground. The signs had a big list of times when the bus lane was in operation, differing between morning and evening and another set of times for Saturday and Sunday. Even for regular users it was so confusing that instead of trying to work out if it was operational or not nobody ever used it, apart from those who ignored bus lanes anyway and screamed along the empty lane at 40mph.
Hardly ever saw a bus in it either.
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All this street furniture and council funded graffiti on the road has ruined our towns and especially rural villages.They have made them into eyesores.
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>>And, as far as I remember, French roundabouts have no lane markings on them, certainly the Arc de Triomph "roundabout" has none despite its 6 (?) exits and "lanes"! Mind you, they also have a far higher accident rate than us!
Some of the unmodernised intersections in French towns and cities are confusing, but out on the main roads lots of new roundabouts have been constructed. On these the rules are the same as here in UK except a mirror image - i.e. you go round the roundabout anti-clockwise and give way to traffic from the left. Where the road is a 'passage protege' there is an end of passage protege sign followed by a give way sign on the approach to each roundabout.
Cheers, SS
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