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If I had a gun...... - borasport20
There'd be one less fiesta owner in wigan tonight.

I'm happy to acknowledge i'm not in the best frame of mind - today, work has been (supply own adjectives). It was chucking it down with rain when I left work two hours late, by which time it is impossible to see the key to lock the gate, which is necessary to stop the carpark being frequented by prostitutes and drug users
It would have been nice to have a clean run home

but Spurs are playing at Bolton tonight, so there's a bit of traffic about

and the dual carriage way outside the Reebok is currently down to one lane in each direction, just to slow things down

and there's a bus broken down on the roundabout at one end of that road, just to grind things to a total halt

Once past the A6, there is usually very little traffic to impede my progress, but step forward FiestaWoman, whose speed over 3 or 4 miles of almost empty 40 and 30 mph road ranged from 25 to 18 mph. Laugh when she brakes for minor bends in the road ! Gasp when she slows down for on coming traffic! Applaud the way she braked for the green traffic lights.
Then shoot her when the pedestrian crossing changes from green 70 yards ahead, she's doing 25 mph and she just sails straight through it without even touching the brakes

What was going on ? she obviously saw the things she slowed down for, but she chose to ignore the pedestrian crossing and the kids waiting to cross the road - will I ever understand ?


www.mikes-walks.co.uk
If I had a gun...... - Hugo {P}
Just keep people like that in front of you where you can see them or far enough behind you where they don't matter and you're usually OK.

H
If I had a gun...... - Pugugly {P}
Possibly driving in combination with...........insert pet hate here (e.g. Chemicals/Alcohol/Mobile phone)
If I had a gun...... - Robin Reliant
Probably a member of Roadpeace, Brake, or Mothers Against The Slaughter Of Babies On Our Roads who believes she is a good driver because she doesn't speed.
If I had a gun...... - NowWheels
Tom, I don't think that any road safety advoactes would have much positive to say about a driver who clearly hasn't much control over their vehicle -- more likely they'd be as horrified as most posters here.
If I had a gun...... - tyre tread
Borasport20

Believe me, if you did have a gun you wouldn't use it.

They're not worth it!

Even if you shot 'em in the head you'd probably miss the brain by about 5 and a half feet!
If I had a gun...... - Robin Reliant
Tom, I don't think that any road safety advoactes would have
much positive to say about a driver who clearly hasn't much
control over their vehicle -- more likely they'd be as horrified
as most posters here.

Road safety EXPERTS would be horrified at such driving, No Wheels. But a lot of these organisations are made up of anti car fanatics who have no knowledge of good driving techniques and their answer to everything is lower speeds, traffic calming, Gatso's, bus lanes, and restrictions on private car use.

If I had a gun...... - blank
hear, hear!
If I had a gun...... - John R @ home {P}
Don't shoot her, just knock some sense into her with your new sturdy coat hangers!


Regards,

John R @ Home
If I had a gun...... - borasport20
John - you could probably fashion a rough and ready crossbow out of them !


www.mikes-walks.co.uk
If I had a gun...... - Baskerville
But a lot of these organisations are made up of anti
car fanatics who have no knowledge of good driving techniques


OK, let's have names and evidence.
If I had a gun...... - P 2501
I love these people who brake for slight bends in the road at 30mph. These are people for whom driving is simply a thing to be got out of the way.They loathe every second behind the wheel and see a car as a necessary evil.

They have the same mental approach to driving as most posters here have to going to the dentist.
If I had a gun...... - Peter D
Followed a guy in a Sierra driving like that early one morning and after he lost control completely at 40 mph and mounted the harse curb and ploughed into the soil bank I calls the police and he was under the influence. At least he didn't kill anyone.
If I had a gun...... - helicopter
I was following an old boy like that a couple of weeks ago doing 15 to 20 in a 30 mph zone. It was not safe to overtake as we approached an unmanned level crossing with double white lines etc and he then proceeded to slow down to 10 mph to go over the crossing.

To be honest I didn't even see the idiot in the Land Rover that overtook the both of us at around 60 mph actually on the crossing he came up behind so quickly ... Pass that 12 bore - I know who I would rather shoot!
If I had a gun...... - Mapmaker
>and he was under the influence.

Intrigued as to how you found out?
If I had a gun...... - Citroënian {P}
Just keep people like that in front of you where you can see them or far enough behind you where they don't matter and you're usually OK.


Excellent advice that, Hugo sums up how one has to drive these days to maintain some sanity.
--
Lee
MINI adventure over. Now having a Fabialous time.
If I had a gun...... - Ian (Cape Town)
It would have been nice to have a clean run home
but Spurs are playing at Bolton tonight...


God's way of telling you that you should have gone to the football.
2-2 at fulltime, 3-4 after extra time, and apparently Okocha was magic!

If I had a gun...... - pdc {P}
a rifle would be much more accurate, but probably very difficult to apply the 4 marksman principles when driving.
If I had a gun...... - AlanGowdy
I was recently stuck behind another car driving at a steady 30 mph on an open country road. There was a steady stream of traffic heading in the opposite direction and every time another vehicle passed us the driver in front touched the brakes..... WHY? If you are that nervous you should not be driving.

I certainly would not recommend resorting to the kind of extreme violence suggested by the thread's title but if you must.... a Walther P99 would be my weapon of choice.
If I had a gun...... - Another John H
I'd place a fair wager that the Fiesta driver was either partially sighted, or had forgotten the glasses:
it explains the slowing down for large "hazards" only.

Probably still has a right to live, but shouldn't be driving.
If I had a gun...... - SjB {P}
I think I followed this driver down the A41 from Bicester towards Aylesbury a few nights ago. This road has as many long, wide, open stretches as you are ever going to get, but the driver at the head of the queue braked (visible lights) down to just under 20MPH every time somebody went the other way. When the opposite direction was clear, the traffic would stagger back up to 50MPH, but no more. It all started getting very ugly, with drivers timid to overtake at the head of the queue, and drivers with the oomph to do something about it further back. There were a number of near sideswipes as the latter came whilstling past the former, who by now - either without a mirror check, or with one and having thought 'wait your turn, matey' - had finally decided that with the length of a Heathrow runway in front of them, they might just be able to overtake a car still dawdling back up to 50!

I can only assume that the driver causing the queue was suffering from night blindness, in which case why can't such drivers admit it, and hang up their keys? I don't look forward to the day I do this, but there is no way I will do otherwise.
If I had a gun...... - PhilW
The only people who have guns these days are criminals.
If I had a gun...... - CM
The only people who have guns these days are criminals.


I'm not a criminal.


Back to topic, if there were more traffic police they would stop this kind of inconsiderate driving.
If I had a gun...... - pdc {P}
So all cadet forces, police and military personnel are criminals eh?

Back to topic, kind of, just seen 3 police range rovers full of officers brandishing rifles pass through Ashton-u-Lyne escorting a securicor van.

armed traffic police! maybe they should be out looking for this woman on borasports behalf ;-)
If I had a gun...... - PhilW
"So all cadet forces, police and military personnel are criminals eh?"

Sorry - didn't make the irony in my comment (about the only people having guns being criminals) clear!

If I had a gun...... - Burnout2
Without wishing to suggest that every driver in their sixties or older is going to constitute a rolling roadblock for following traffic, the proportion of pensioners on the roads will naturally increase considerably over the coming years in line with the nation's ageing demographic.

One of the best reasons I can think of to still own a performance car in the current climate of multi-million annual speeding convictions. Having the power to overtake quickly and safely is a massive boon, especially for those drivers (like me) who have no patience with those who can't - or won't - keep up with the flow of traffic.
If I had a gun...... - MarkSmith
You'd hope the pensioners of tomrrow will be better used to driving on roads with a lot of traffic than are the pensioners of today.

When did compulsory driving tests come in? Do we still have people driving who never took a test?

-Mark
If I had a gun...... - frostbite
The female pensioners of tomorrow will be driving around covered in tatoos and body jewellery.
If I had a gun...... - Pugugly {P}
The female pensioners of tomorrow will be driving around covered in
tatoos and body jewellery.


Now that is a worry.
If I had a gun...... - NowWheels
When did compulsory driving tests come in?


In the 1930s, I think
Do we still have people driving who never took a test?


Yes. I know one, and his passengers age very rapidly ...
If I had a gun...... - tyre tread
You're in very dangerous territory there Phil.

I know many who hold guns legally and those that do so are the most law abiding citizens in thge country - they have to be to keep their license!
If I had a gun...... - PhilW
I'll apologise again - I was making no implications about the "many who hold guns legally " (indeed I used to own several shotguns myself, used for game and vermin shooting and also used to do target shooting on an army range with .22 and 303s) but was trying to imply that criminals seem to be able to get guns easily without applying for a licence - judging from the amount of gun crime reported locally.

Anyway, my "joke" obviously misfired!

As regards the driving test, I think it was introduced in 1934 so those who never took a test must be few and far between and aged about 87. There must be some who never took a test but who learned with the army when called up in WW2 - both my parents,I think, obtained their licences this way. My Dad, who died aged 81 earlier this year was very conscious of effects of age on driving and each year had eyes tested and went to doctors for various tests (reflexes, co-ordination etc). I'm not sure, but this may be a requirement over the age of 75? He remained a very good driver - I was always confident in his skills when travelling with him and he didn't hang about (I remember him saying "I can't stand these old dodderers holding everybody up" as he waited for some "old" bloke - about 20 years younger than him - to park.)
If I had a gun...... - Robin Reliant
There is no requirement to have a medical at any age, but when you reach seventy you must fill in a form declaring any impairments which might effect your driving. They will take your word on this, so thats all right then!

The test was first introduced in 1935, but many there are many like my ex father-in-law who obtained a motorcycle licence when on war service and this covered him for a car as well. Not sure if this was just under the emergency powers act or it applied to all tests up to a certain time.

Before 1970 anyone who passed on an automatic could also drive a manual, so there are probably a few of those still about on the roads today.