I, for one, don\'t get the Sunday Times...:-)
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driving.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,12529-1189004...l
It's online :-)
teabelly
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I'll read my copy of the Mail on Sunday first (Russell Bray et al)...
Thanks for the info.
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I don't think I've ever heard Clarkson refer to any car as "magical"..ever.
I need to go and lie down...THEN I'll go and steal an Evo.
Adam
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JC gives me the impression that he likes this particular Mitsi.
I suspect that means it's quite good.....
Times are a'changing.
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What on earth is the point of owning one of those on our roads?
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What on earth is the point of owning one of those on our roads?
With a question like that I think JC would recommend you went for the FQ-320 ;)
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>>What on earth is the point of owning one of those on our roads?<<
Er.....Fun?
Adam
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What on earth is the point of owning one of those on our roads?
An easy way to lose your license? One quick step to being an organ donor?
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>> What on earth is the point of owning one of those >> on our roads? An easy way to lose your license? One quick step to being an organ donor?
Because it's a free country (by the skin of its teeth) and therefore you can own it?
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...What on earth is the point of owning one of those on our roads? An easy way to lose your license? One quick step to being an organ donor?
I guess then that there\'s no point in me trying to explain why as a perfectly sane individual, who does not have a death wish and who does not behave like the irresponsible minority, I purchased a sportsbike that will cover zero to one hundred miles and hour, and back to zero, in the same sort of time that a Humdrum Hatch will crawl its way to sixty. In short, the sort of ballistic performance that you can\'t even begin to describe, and my bike is not the fastest to accelerate or brake, either.
...Because it\'s a free country (by the skin of its teeth) and therefore you can own it?
Thank you, ND.
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Mods - I promised I checked, but I obviously missed out the command to switch off italics after and back to zero.
If you would be so kind, please... :-)
{Sorted. DD}
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>> What on earth is the point of owning one of those >> on our roads? An easy way to lose your license? One quick step to being an organ donor?
lost me lisence (sp?) with a far tamer but more exciting car
(...WELL...aint lost it yet...but there's a 12 pointer
in the system...not looking good)
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you mean you have committed an offence warranting 12 points? What did you do?!?!!? Run over a National Nun convention????
Adam
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Nicely self-deprecating comment from him near the end:
"This, I know, has been a furiously technical and deeply insightful look at a car and if you were hoping for a thousand words on satsumas, followed by 30 on the car, I apologise. Normal service will be resumed next week"
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But you can only legally go up to 70 mph in this country (30 in built up areas). My wife's Punto comfortably manages this.
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Whilst I'm sure they are fantastic cars, the world would be a boring place if we all drove Puntos. What about nice winding country roads? I think there are 2 left in the country that haven't been restricted to 30. I'd rather drive the Lancer than a Punto. Having said that, I'd rather have the Punto MPG :-)
Adam
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>legally...70....punto..blah
So everything you own is only what you need. Presumably therefore you don't have four seats in the car if you only need two, you don't have stereo that goes louder than you ever play it and you've given away all the money you don't need.
How about having something *just* because you want it. The fact that you don't want one has nothing to do with whether or not anybody else does.
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Funny how the wife has been lumbered with the punto.........
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But you can only legally go up to 70 mph in this country (30 in built up areas). My wife\'s Punto comfortably manages this.
Yup, but you may choose to get to 70 in 5.3 seconds and not 15 seconds. Perfectly legal.
soto voce Is it me or are we bringing out more of the pipe-smoking allegro driving brigade lately?
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Sorry to bang on again BUT:
My Dad has a Gixxer (I know we don't do bikes here but it's fast - trust me). Anyway - if he wants to do 0 - 60 in 2 seconds (or thereabouts :-) then he can. I won't patronise you all by saying the bike never does over 70 but for the sake of this argument lets say it never sees 71. You may ask why he doesn't ride around on a moped of all of 50cc. Well he doesn't want one. At the end of the day, whether he's on that or a moped, they're equally dangerous but the difference is, one of them is fun. A lot of fun. I'm echoing points already raised here but NW said before that a quick car could lose your licence or kill you quicker. ND rightly said - it's a free country - so far so you can get up to 70 as quick as you darn well want.
Would you rather have a Punto or an Evo? A Peugeot 1cc scooter or a Suzuki 1000cc bike?
We have to live at the end of the day - why not do it in style - and in a fast car? What fun would life be at 50 on a motorway clogged with all white fiestas of 1100 cc?
Thanks - sorry for the rant.
ALSO - I don't have any figures but I suspect in a crash you would be a little better off in an Evo than a Punto. Just a guess. And that's all I have to say on the matter...honest!
Adam
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*sniff*
You've brought a tear to my eye Adski.
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Oi BB!
If you look at the time that was written you will see that I must have been very very tired....very tired.
Adam
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But it was lovely. I felt like I should have been standing up and saluting a flag while the national anthem played or something.
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I genuinely do not know how to reply to that....so...I won't ;-)
Adam
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Adski,
Couldn't agree more with that.
Whatever floats your automtive boat then get it, hold up a bank if you have to but do it. Sure, it could be a bag of spanners, it might be sheer automotive joy of joys.
I got stopped last Sunday morning at 5am by the local police. Driving my P6 on the empty roads, when they asked what I was doing, the answer was simple. Driving, the roads are empty.
Didn't stop them going round the car looking for faults, still saves on the garage bills.
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"I got stopped.."
Wot, no pretext? I thought there had to be a reason, or have we now reached the state that just driving for the fun of it is regarded as suspicious?
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The pretext could quite simply have just been why is someone about at that time of the morning?
There are some who are up to no good at that time...:-)
Stop or even stop and search is a perfectly reasonable tactic if done properly by police officers, who are usually aware or have a sixth sense of just who to watch out for after social hours.
I'm certainly not inferring in any way that anyone was up to no good in this case but, overall, prevention is better than cure as we know.
Incidentally, I've a pal who used to be a traffic officer. He once stopped someone in a powerful sports car in the early hours who was out for the same reason, to enjoy driving it on quiet roads.
They got chatting and the outcome was that my pal asked if he could try the car out himself for a few minutes. This was duly granted and he had five minutes, or perhaps even more, having a quick spin in it.
I'm sure that it proved the perfect public relations exercise....
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But you can only legally go up to 70 mph in this country (30 in built up areas). My wife\'s Punto comfortably manages this.
Deeply true, Halmer - as former Punto owner myself, can vouch for that. I know, however, which of the 2 I\'d be in if I had to stop from that speed in a hurry for whatever reason, and must say it\'d be the Evo every time.
I would also submit that the fact that the Evo is capable of such high speeds (about 150-odd, isn\'t it? I haven\'t read Clarkson) would mean that it feels a lot more effortless at 70 than said Punto.
Ride quality would probably be about the same, too ;-)
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"Sunday Tomes"
Not a typo, I assume!
A great read HJ (JK?) and thanks for mentioning it. Not often I quibble with JC over his English, but I don't think "how many horse powers the 2 litre engine develops" is entirely grammatical. (/nitpick mode off).
Still, the Uma Thurman reference does rather make up for it...
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"how many horse powers the 2 litre engine develops"
I think he was being sarcastic here - poking fun at his own grasp of technology.
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"poking fun at his own grasp of technology"
I did wonder, but I'm not sure that works in an article where the technical content is key. After all, he goes on to discuss specific power output, although he wrongly identifies the Charade as the first 100hp/litre offering (decades out, I'm afraid), so maybe you're right, if that was a bluff as well!
For all that, I did enjoy it. I can see the canal boat reference coming in useful here...
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Agreed, very very good. Thought James May was quite good too in the Telegraph Saturday.
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Lee
MINI adventure in progress
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