What is life like with your car? Let us know and win £500 in John Lewis vouchers | No thanks
how important is air-conditioning? - the gardener
I am back to the backroom again and see that Volvoman is still here popping along...his topic about air-conditioning is interesting. I wondered if most people now consider conditioning essential; how important is it? How much would you pay extra to have said in a good car if it's still an option?
how important is air-conditioning? - BazzaBear {P}
Well, my current car does not have it but my next one WILL, having experienced its benefits.
how important is air-conditioning? - No Do$h
Welcome back horticultural person.

I see that your last post back in July last year was on a similar subject: www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=13565

Now that's some break in a thread!


No Dosh
Backroom Moderator
mailto:moderators@honestjohn.co.uk
how important is air-conditioning? - spinner
Having gone from cars without it to a car with - I think it makes driving a bit more comfortable in summer. So yes it's important.
how important is air-conditioning? - the gardener
I am obsessed with fresh air but winding the window down is not something even I always like to do...
how important is air-conditioning? - bananaman
A couple of years ago I spent ages trying to flog my Omega 2.0 16v GLS. Lovely car except nobody wanted it because it didn't have aircon. I think the book guide added £500 on the used price for aircon. I sold it for £500 under book so thats a grand difference. Reckon I'd pay that extra on a new car, but it's usually much less than this.
how important is air-conditioning? - malteser
Very important if you live in a hot country! Ours was on full whack today and the air temperature was a wimpish 27 C.
Roger in Spain
how important is air-conditioning? - Clanger
One of my sources of income is gardening. During this spell of good weather it's great to climb into the car after some tough weeding or mowing and take off to the next job with the air-con blowing a welcome cool breeze at me. In answer to your question; for me, mandatory.
Hawkeye
-----------------------------
Stranger in a strange land
how important is air-conditioning? - Imagos
The last few days have been a bit too warm to leave the aircon off but a bit too cool to have it on for long periods, in the end it's got on my nerves and i've just left it off and opened my window and quite frankly i prefered (and enjoyed!!, try it!) this option.

probably change my mind when it's 33*c in August..

how important is air-conditioning? - Dynamic Dave
The last few days have been a bit too warm to
leave the aircon off but a bit too cool to have
it on for long periods,


Why not just put the heater on slightly? You're not limited to an icy blast with the air con switched on. By adjusting the heater knob, you can make it as cold or as warm as you like.
how important is air-conditioning? - the gardener
What make and model of vehicle do you operate, Hawkeye? I am still desperately in love with the idea of buying a Subaru forester (since last year) but the air-conditioning isn't always present. My Volvo 740 just sailed through the MOT so I've got to keep it another year (bother!)
how important is air-conditioning? - Clanger
"Operate"? You make me sound almost professional.

1996 Citroen Synergie VSX diesel. A good all-rounder if a bit lacking in the horsepower department. If you aspire to Subaru standards of performance and handling, forget the Synergie.
Hawkeye
-----------------------------
Stranger in a strange land
how important is air-conditioning? - barney100
We have it on one car and not the other. In this country it just isn't hot enough except the odd spell to warrant it and is hardly ever used. Having said that in hot countries it is essential: we had a recent holiday in Florida and it would have been unbearable without air con.
how important is air-conditioning? - AN Other
Very important. I wouldn't buy another car without ac. Much more comfortable, controllable temperatures, and that added bonus that the windows don't mist up when it rains. I think that last one really swings it for me. You can actually feel the humidity in the car rise if you switch the ac off. Leave it on all the time, and use the temp control.
how important is air-conditioning? - Ivor E Tower
Agree with AN Other.
how important is air-conditioning? - Dipstick
My last car had aircon - this one has climate. Wouldn't be without climate now, rather than aircon.

But then I am incredibly lazy. I even..oh finish your own damn sentences....
how important is air-conditioning? - AlanGowdy
Adding to the general view... wouldn't have a convertible - hate the sun beating down on me when I drive and not overly keen on skin cancer either... in a hardtop - opening a window leaves you deafened if you drive at more than 30 mph.

Give me air conditioning every time.
how important is air-conditioning? - just a bloke
Adding to the general view... wouldn't have a convertible - hate
the sun beating down on me when I drive and not
overly keen on skin cancer either... in a hardtop -
opening a window leaves you deafened if you drive at more
than 30 mph.
Give me air conditioning every time.


I have a convertable that comes with air conditioning as standard would that be ok?

;-) JaB
how important is air-conditioning? - helicopter
Both SWMBO and I have AC and following recommendations on this forum we leave it on virtually all the time.

Wouldn't be without it.
how important is air-conditioning? - AdrianM
Agreed. Essential. Always on in my car - even in winter (except for the two or three days a year when it gets properly cold).
how important is air-conditioning? - Big Cat
Air con is one of those things you think you don't want. But then you get a car with it fitted and I guarantee you won't buy another one without it.
how important is air-conditioning? - L'escargot
Very desirable, but not at the expense of a sunroof. A sunroof gives a refreshing increase in airflow through the car when used either on its own or in conjunction with aircon. Give me both any day.
--
L'escargot by name, but not by nature.
how important is air-conditioning? - NowWheels
I agree with the french snail about sunroofs.

My favourite way of staying cool on a hot day is to have a sunrof slightly open (best tilted at the back) and the center airvents full open, with fan. That way, I get a steady blast of fresh air which goes past me without blowing into my face.

For me, that beats aircon any day, altho it isn't much use when stuck on a motorway tailback when the sun is splitting the stones.

I'm not sure whether I can really justify the extra cost and complexity of aircon for such limited use. But maybe it'd be a difft call if I spent more of my life in m'way tailbacks!
how important is air-conditioning? - Altea Ego
when traveling with a hairy black labrador that soaks up sun like a solar heating panel, air con is vital.
how important is air-conditioning? - NowWheels
RF, you should have a word with that dog about the joys of being a peroxide blonde, at least in summer ;-)

Seriously tho, most dogs I've travelled with seem more fixated on fresh air than on being cool. Most of them love an open window in a moving car, and seem v happy with the sun roof/air vent combination. One dog who sometimes helps me drive likes spending her time with her snout pressed against the air vent, unless she has manged to find the electric window button again ...
how important is air-conditioning? - THe Growler
Wouldyou leave home without your trousers?
how important is air-conditioning? - NowWheels
Wouldyou leave home without your trousers?


frequently. I have a much better alternative for warm weather
how important is air-conditioning? - Hull4000
I do like the dual climate control in my new Audi A4...
how important is air-conditioning? - Dynamic Dave
>> Wouldyou leave home without your trousers?
frequently. I have a much better alternative for warm weather


Any chance of posting the pics on groups.msn.com/honestjohn ? ;o)

how important is air-conditioning? - BobbyG
Think another angle to look at this is that it is becoming more and more the norm for cars to be fitted with air con, even basic family and small hatches. Therefore, it makes sense that as these cars hit the used market more and more then aircon may become the norm the same as power steering, electric windows, RDS radios etc etc
So to not have it on a car would possibly reduce its value, and more importantly, its desirability.
how important is air-conditioning? - DavidHM
Absolutely. And even if air con only adds £250 to the resale value of the car when you sell it, it may take three months to get any interest/a price you're happy with, which effectively makes the car unsaleable.

The result then is that you are more or less forced to auction or trade in the car, giving you a lower price and less opportunity to shop around as a phone call to get a quote is replaced by a visit for an appraisal.

As a result, the £500 air con option could pay for itself indirectly.
how important is air-conditioning? - NowWheels
Any chance of posting the pics on groups.msn.com/honestjohn ? ;o)


you probably wouldn't be all that excited, cause I don't really go in for short skirts. But maybe one of these days I can borrow my friend's digital camera to get a snap of my ankles ...
how important is air-conditioning? - Dr Rubber
I have hayfever so opening a window is unpleasent.
Aircon + pollen filter = no sneezing + comfort.
Joe
how important is air-conditioning? - Mapmaker
Yar! All mouth & no trousers, NW! 'I've gone off ND 'cos he won't post a piccy of himself'. The moment the boot is on the other trouserleg...
how important is air-conditioning? - NowWheels
Yar! All mouth & no trousers, NW! 'I've gone
off ND 'cos he won't post a piccy of himself'.
The moment the boot is on the other trouserleg...


rule number 1: always let a bloke think he's winning :)
how important is air-conditioning? - AlanGowdy
Yes, Just a Bloke.... a convertible with aircon might be OK for me - as long as I could leave the roof permanently up.
how important is air-conditioning? - madf
I don't like noise or draughts. Both together make journeys unacceptable.
Every car I have had since 1995 has had aircon except a BMW318i. That was an error of judgement: it had a sunroof: impossibly noisy above 60mph.

Nowadays I don't care for sunroofs, drive with windows closed and aircon on all the time. Much quieter , no draughts and no hassle.

Convertibles = cars with an invitation saying "steal me or slash me please". Parking in a car park is just asking for trouble. great for nice days, impractical all year round..

When you drive a car in extremes of weather (hot or cold) you want one that is comfortable, reliable and safe. So cars without aircon, convertibles and rwd cars are all ruled out..



madf


how important is air-conditioning? - patently
RWDa problem? Surely not. I've only ended up facing the wrong way once, so far.
how important is air-conditioning? - just a bloke
So
cars without aircon, convertibles and rwd cars are all ruled out..


Oh No! :o I am in big trouble then

I have a convertable with rear wheel drive....
how important is air-conditioning? - lezebre
a convertible with aircon might be OK
for me - as long as I could leave the roof
permanently up.


I might have bought a car from you once! a Ford Consul MkII when they were for banger money.
Fully functioning hydraulic hood it had, and it had been stuck down to the windscreen with Duck tape!

( It did start sounding like a poorly washing machine after much use, especially in car parks, where people would take time out to watch, manual hoods being very much the norm then, even on Consuls.
The rest of the car was a dog, but it did come with a handbook which said to use a special Ford hood oil. I went to the Main dealer, where they shook their heads unhelpfully in unison. I decided I had nothing to lose by bunging in some brake fluid, and smooth silent operation was immediately restored. I discovered years later that that's exactly what was in the Ford tins...)

how important is air-conditioning? - Mapmaker
Why don't you borrow a friend's terrier to get a snap of your ankles?
how important is air-conditioning? - THe Growler
Dont'tell me LOL, a kilt or a skirt?
how important is air-conditioning? - NowWheels
Dont'tell me LOL, a kilt or a skirt?


a skirt, silly :)

Kilts are for wild scotsmen with no undies!
how important is air-conditioning? - BobbyG
And damn comfortable they are as well!

Em... by the way, I am referring to Kilts!!
how important is air-conditioning? - THe Growler
My education proceeds by leaps and bounds...thank you.


how important is air-conditioning? - madf
I used to wear a kilt when younger.. very interesting on windy days.

Now I have reached civilisation, I wear jeans.

The built in aircon of kilts is too much :-)

madf


how important is air-conditioning? - MichaelR
I prefer the best of both worlds, so I chose a car fitted with both a sunroof and air conditioning.
how important is air-conditioning? - LongDriver {P}
I'm a very bad hayfever sufferer.

Air conditioning and pollen filter therefore essential!!
how important is air-conditioning? - Martin Devon
I specced it in my 02 Master van. Would never be without now. Brilliant in winter with two wet Labradors. Without it you wouldn't be able to see!

Regards.
how important is air-conditioning? - defender
climate works for me also,travelling 500 miles south and the heat just hits you when you get out at the other end.regarding windows steaming up was there not a means of stopping this by wiping the glass with neat washing up liquid ?(unless of course you didnt want DVD to see what you were up to)
how important is air-conditioning? - wemyss
Dont want to worry you guys with AC but my mate has it in his Mercedes in Cyprus and swears blind it has caused the arthritas in his knees...thats his story anyway...
how important is air-conditioning? - Hull4000
Nonsense - I suspect he is probably overweight! Arthritis is caused by wear and tear of joints - not by the cold. The cold can make arthritic symptoms worse but doesn't cause them.