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Mon 27 Jan 2025 20:28
Hyundai i10 - MOT Fail - repair or replace - ManYad

Hi everyone, got a 2013 i10 4 years ago, failed MOT today with the below. My local service guy said it would cost about £800 to fix all the below (mainly timing belt & ABS), and sugested perhaps I should sell the car. Used cars are still way too expensive. What do folks think - repair, or replace like for like?

Repair immediately (major defects)

- Engine mil inoperative or indicates a malfunctions [8.2.1.2(h)]

- Electronic power steering warning lamp indicates a system malfunctiona [2.6(a)]

Monitor and repair if necessary (advisories)

- Play in steering rack inner joint(s)(Both inner joints)

- Anti-roll bar linkage ball joints slight play Nearside Front

- Anti-roll bar linkage ball joints slight play Offside Front

- Shock absorber has light misting of oil Offside Rear

And I replaced all 4 tyres last year! :(

- M

Edited by ManYad on 27/01/2025 at 20:28

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Mon 27 Jan 2025 20:45
Hyundai i10 - MOT Fail - repair or replace - elekie&a/c doctor
There are only 2 straight failures, engine mil and power steering. What are the problems with these ? The advisories are not too expensive to fix, if you decide to go further with them .
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Mon 27 Jan 2025 21:02
Hyundai i10 - MOT Fail - repair or replace - Xileno

I don't think it has a belt, these are chain, so what has the garage said is wrong with it? Maybe the chain has stretched causing the MIL to come on.

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Mon 27 Jan 2025 21:03
Hyundai i10 - MOT Fail - repair or replace - ManYad

yes, something on those lines if i recollect.

-M

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Mon 27 Jan 2025 21:03
Hyundai i10 - MOT Fail - repair or replace - ManYad

Apparently to do with the timing belt, and to fix the ABS. I'll probably have to understand better from my service guy. He said it will cost about £800. And about a week in the garage.

-M

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Mon 27 Jan 2025 21:17
Hyundai i10 - MOT Fail - repair or replace - FiestaOwner

Hi everyone, got a 2013 i10 4 years ago, failed MOT today with the below. My local service guy said it would cost about £800 to fix all the below (mainly timing belt & ABS), and sugested perhaps I should sell the car. Used cars are still way too expensive. What do folks think - repair, or replace like for like?

Think this has the 1.2 Kappa engine. If it does, I'm sure it has a timing chain and not a belt. If it does have the original belt, then it would be wise to change it? If it has a chain, then this wouldn't normally be changed, unless it was noisy or rattling.

Is the ABS issue related to the warning lights (which the car failed on)?

If you deal with the 2 failures, then the other items may well be ok for another year.

Given you feel that it would cost too much to replace the car, then your best bet would be to keep the car you have. You know it's history and that you've looked after it.

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Mon 27 Jan 2025 22:33
Hyundai i10 - MOT Fail - repair or replace - alan1302

Hi everyone, got a 2013 i10 4 years ago, failed MOT today with the below. My local service guy said it would cost about £800 to fix all the below (mainly timing belt & ABS), and sugested perhaps I should sell the car. Used cars are still way too expensive. What do folks think - repair, or replace like for like?

Think this has the 1.2 Kappa engine. If it does, I'm sure it has a timing chain and not a belt. If it does have the original belt, then it would be wise to change it? If it has a chain, then this wouldn't normally be changed, unless it was noisy or rattling.

Definitely a chain - we had a 2013 i10 and that was one of the reasons for getting it.

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Mon 27 Jan 2025 23:07
Hyundai i10 - MOT Fail - repair or replace - Andrew-T

<< Given you feel that it would cost too much to replace the car, then your best bet would be to keep the car you have. You know its history and that you've looked after it. >>

It's the same old story - what matters is Cost to Change. When cars get to 10 years old, things start to fail or wear out, as yours is doing. Footing an occasional bill of £800 is painful and causes resentment, but unless your car is a frequent offender the knee-jerk reaction to get rid usually makes little financial sense. Have the necessary repairs done, and see whether the advisories reappear next year !

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Mon 27 Jan 2025 22:59
Hyundai i10 - MOT Fail - repair or replace - Big John

Repair immediately (major defects)

- Engine mil inoperative or indicates a malfunctions [8.2.1.2(h)]

- Electronic power steering warning lamp indicates a system malfunctiona [2.6(a)]

Is the battery ok as a cream crackered battery can throw both of these errors - especially relating to electric power steering that's juicy re the no of amps needed.

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Tue 28 Jan 2025 00:21
Hyundai i10 - MOT Fail - repair or replace - edlithgow

It says "Engine mil inoperative OR indicates a malfunctions" (OBDII grammar,?)

So I'm guessing thats ALWAYS generated along with any other fault code unless the light is bust, when it would come up on its own?

So the only actual fault MOT-wise is the power steering light?

I dunno how long that particular piece of string is likely to be, never having had one, though I'd wonder if it might be related to the alleged play in the steering rack, but it doesn't sound a sufficient basis for sc***ping, on its own, unless you plan to stop driving, given that any replacment is likely to also have a mystery money light

(Cant really comment on the mysteriously metallic timing belt, since both what and why are unknown. Maybe ask?)

You also mention ABS, which I've also managed to avoid, but other people on here could probably comment on if you'd said anything else about it.

Edited by edlithgow on 28/01/2025 at 00:35

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Tue 28 Jan 2025 08:13
Hyundai i10 - MOT Fail - repair or replace - SLO76
These are chain driven not belt but the tensioner can fail causing problems, no disaster though if it’s still running. New chain and tensioner isn’t cripplingly expensive. The ABS light is likely just a sensor and again not expensive, the power steering warning may be caused by the play in the inner joints. You’d need to spend £7/£8k buying something newer that’ll be substantially more reliable and the car’s worthless as it is so you might as well get it fixed if it’s otherwise ok. All depends on budget and your willingness to deal with the inconvenience.
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Tue 28 Jan 2025 08:30
Hyundai i10 - MOT Fail - repair or replace - elekie&a/c doctor
Not sure if I’ve missed something here , but can’t see any reference to a faulty abs system on the mot failure details.
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Tue 28 Jan 2025 11:26
Hyundai i10 - MOT Fail - repair or replace - Andrew-T
Not sure if I’ve missed something here , but can’t see any reference to a faulty abs system on the mot failure details.

"Electronic power steering warning lamp indicates a system malfunction" ?

Later posters drew some conclusions.

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Wed 29 Jan 2025 01:47
Hyundai i10 - MOT Fail - repair or replace - edlithgow
Not sure if I’ve missed something here , but can’t see any reference to a faulty abs system on the mot failure details.

"Electronic power steering warning lamp indicates a system malfunction" ?

Later posters drew some conclusions.

Nope. No apparent basis for such conclusion. I just repeated what the OP wrote.

I dunno why he wrote it, but I'd guess he;d been talking to a mechanic, which I generally avoid if possible.

Incidentally, Mystery Money Light stuff belongs in Technical rather than Discussion.You cant argue with a Mystery Money Light

Edited by edlithgow on 29/01/2025 at 02:01

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Wed 29 Jan 2025 08:14
Hyundai i10 - MOT Fail - repair or replace - SLO76
Not sure if I’ve missed something here , but can’t see any reference to a faulty abs system on the mot failure details.


“ Hi everyone, got a 2013 i10 4 years ago, failed MOT today with the below. My local service guy said it would cost about £800 to fix all the below (mainly timing belt & ABS),”

Maybe the OP has got mixed up.

Edited by SLO76 on 29/01/2025 at 08:15

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Wed 29 Jan 2025 08:28
Hyundai i10 - MOT Fail - repair or replace - pd

These are known for weak chains. As others have suggested I suspect the chain has stretched throwing the timing out enough to trigger a MIL.

The power steering sounds like it might need a new electric rack.

It's probably worth doing to be honest as in other respects they're quite decent cars which can last.

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Thu 30 Jan 2025 13:05
Hyundai i10 - MOT Fail - repair or replace - ManYad

Hi All, thanks for your feedback. I spoke to my mechanic, and the two main issues are: problem with the timing chain -probably come loose hence the warning. And although the MOT says EPS apparently they made a mistake, the issue is with ABS which needs changing (some pump). The mechanic suggests I am better off replacing the car based on what he's seen given the major faults, and the advisories. If i opt for repair, the problem simply will be pushed to next year. My gut feel based on how the car feels while driving - i tend to agree with him. Not going to buy online ever :)

So looks like I am better off replacing it (and used cars have never been this expensive!).

-M

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Thu 30 Jan 2025 14:34
Hyundai i10 - MOT Fail - repair or replace - De Sisti

The mechanic suggests I am better off replacing the car based on what he's seen given the major faults, and the advisories. If i opt for repair, the problem simply will be pushed to next year.

-M

Surely if the repairs are done, the problems would be sorted?

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Thu 30 Jan 2025 14:57
Hyundai i10 - MOT Fail - repair or replace - gordonbennet

Pardon me for asking but is the mechanic in the market for your present car should you agree its time to replace.

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Thu 30 Jan 2025 17:41
Hyundai i10 - MOT Fail - repair or replace - ManYad

Nope he is not :)

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Thu 30 Jan 2025 15:24
Hyundai i10 - MOT Fail - repair or replace - Andrew-T

So looks like I am better off replacing it (and used cars have never been this expensive!).

Depends what is meant by 'better off'. Financially ? No, unless you will not be replacing the car. Motoring-wise ? Perhaps, if you put a value on peace of mind. But I would have thought that spending £800 to cure the problems, altho painful, would turn out to be reasonable expenditure ?

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Thu 30 Jan 2025 15:34
Hyundai i10 - MOT Fail - repair or replace - corax

What is your budget for a newer car?

How many miles has this one done?

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Thu 30 Jan 2025 17:43
Hyundai i10 - MOT Fail - repair or replace - ManYad

Agreed, more from a peace of mind perspective. The current one is at 60000 miles. I am taking this as an opportunity to perhaps get an automatic so everyone in the family can drive.

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Thu 30 Jan 2025 17:51
Hyundai i10 - MOT Fail - repair or replace - Adampr

What problems will be pushed to next year? The suspension being a bit worn?

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