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Audi Q5 - Security wheel bolts - John Andrew William Brock

I recently had to buy a new set of four security wheel bolts as one had been lost. I ordered them off Amazon expecting to have to change all four bolts, but the new ones were identical to the originals. There does not seem to be any point in having security bolts if the profiles are so common.

Also, the meshing between the bolts and the socket is nowhere near as positive as a normal hex bolt and prone to slip, further devaluing these things.

Audi Q5 - Security wheel bolts - Steveieb

My indie is regularly called upon to remove security wheel bolts by main dealers.

He forces an old socket on with a lump hammer and then attaches the wrench . Success .

Surprising the number of these that get misplaced .

Audi Q5 - Security wheel bolts - elekie&a/c doctor
Can’t see the point of security bolts . When was the last time you saw a car jacked up on bricks? It’s now easier to steal the whole car, rather than just the wheels .
Audi Q5 - Security wheel bolts - mcb100
First thing I do when I change cars is remove the locking wheel bolts and put plain ones on.
More trouble than they’re worth.
Audi Q5 - Security wheel bolts - gordonbennet

I use lockers, have for many years and will continue to do so, never lost the key nor a locker nor had one break, there's also one on the spare wheel which is bolted to a frame on the tailgate of one of our vehicles, when i had a pick up the underslung spare had a motorcycle chain and serious padlock through the wheel and over a ladder chassis rail.

A set of OE alloy wheels and tyres starts at around £1000 and even very average vehicles you could easily be in the £2000 bracket, why make pickings even easier for low lifes.

Audi Q5 - Security wheel bolts - Ian_SW

The main benefit of the locking wheel nuts is probably not preventing the low-life stealing the wheels, but ensuring that when they do the insurance company will still pay out. Pretty much every insurance policy I've seen has a requirement for locking wheel nuts to be used with alloy wheels, and you can guarantee they'll use this to get out of paying for a claim if they can.

The replacement of the wheels and tyres won't be the only cost - the car won't be left carefully propped up on bricks, just jacked up anywhere and then dropped on the ground with inevitable damage underneath too.

The days of some scally opportunist taking the wheels off a car to sell in the pub, but having enough respect for people's property to leave the car on bricks, is probably gone. However the more organised car part theives (who will have the tools to get the wheels off anyway if they want them) are more prevalent than ever.

I've never had an issue with the locking bolt not coming undone, nor with losing a locking wheel nut key - it just lives permanently in the spare wheel well, and it only takes a very quick check to be sure the garage has put it back after changing wheels, servicing the car etc.

Audi Q5 - Security wheel bolts - John F

I've never had an issue with the locking bolt not coming undone,

Lucky you! I found it's a common problem with Peugeot bolts. It's a stupid design, far worse than our old Ford Focus trouble free locking bolts. Pug owners in the know change them immediately for ordinary bolts - as I have done.

On attempting to change wheels front to back on our new 2008 at around 15,000 miles, one was clearly faulty and resisted all attempts to remove. Local dealer, backed up by Peugeot customer care in Coventry after I complained, refused to remove it under warranty. It took an email to Carlos Tavares, CEO Stellantis (which I guess never actually reached him) to get them to reluctantly comply. They had to resort to welding something onto it to get a grip. And then they tried to prevent me driving it away with only three bolts saying it was unsafe! Fortunately I had my fourth ebay replacement bolt to hand which I gleefully produced.

Audi Q5 - Security wheel bolts - Robert J.

I once had a used V70. The first time it needed tyres the local fast fit place pointed out the locking wheel nut was cracked (before he had started). He reckoned someone had tried to remove a bolt with an air powered tool or similar on full torque but had it going in the wrong direction. My local indie fitted a new set of locking wheel bolts and pointed out that the other four bolts do the job of holding the wheel on, the locking nut was to stop it getting stolen and was tightened to a lower torque setting.

Audi Q5 - Security wheel bolts - Bromptonaut

We had a locking wheel nut break while fast fit were doing tyres leaving part of itself jammed on the key. Replaced *2 with standard bolts as, without the key, they couldn't retighten the undamaged nut. I've since replaced all 4 with non-locking.

If I ran top end cars from premium brands I might be more fussy but I doubt there's much of a market for scuffed alloys from an 11yo Berlingo.

Audi Q5 - Security wheel bolts - Lee Power

Lads at my local garage always use a breaker bar to loosen locking wheel nuts / bolts - a few extra seconds work saves destroying the removal key & opening up a load of hassle.

All wheel nuts / bolts spun on finger tight then torque wrench to the correct tightness. A lot of new customers if watching seem surprised when a torque wrench is used.

They get lots of vehicles in which the previous person has just gunned on the wheel nuts / bolts extra tight.