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New reporting rule governing your ability to drive - Steveieb

Something that will affect us all if we attend a GP appointment or arrange and eye test.

118 medical conditions some I have never heard of !

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/medical/drivers-must-declare-these-118-health-conditions-to-dvla-to-avoid-hefty-fine/ar-AA1bLiSU?cvid=eaace289f82a4bfb9907d2f61bc31b55&ei=45

New reporting rule governing your ability to drive - Terry W

If you haven't heard of it you almost certainly haven't got it.

If you have any sort of condition it would be sensible to understand if and/or how it may affect your driving.

A £1000 fine if it is a maximum is hardly hefty.

If you cause an accident as a result of a medical condition of which you are aware you deserve prosecution.

If it has the effect of ensuring those who are not really capable of driving safely are removed from the road it is probably a good thing.

New reporting rule governing your ability to drive - Andrew-T

If you cause an accident as a result of a medical condition of which you are aware you deserve prosecution.

Agreed. But in law, ignorance has never been a defence ?

New reporting rule governing your ability to drive - HGV ~ P Valentine

I think the biggest problem is not if you are/are not fit to drive.

People, especially those in rural areas with no transport are much more likely to keep driving even when they should not, and relatives are forced to take the keys off them, to prevent an accident.

When they done a road side test for eyesight only, 1/3rd of cars got further attention, some got taken off the road there and then and had to get someone else to come and drive the car, for those who had no one the car was impounded.

What does this tell us, that there are a large minority of drivers that, simply put, cannot be trusted to give up driving when they should.

Until all drivers that require a medical form to continue driving is done by a doctor, then having people medically unfit to drive is something we will all have to live with, or die from.

Buses and lorries have to get it done by a doctor every 5 years, I see no reason why all drivers should not do the same, for the older people because the body becomes too knackered to cope, for younger people a special test for traces of drugs or any illegal substances.

New reporting rule governing your ability to drive - alan1302

for younger people a special test for traces of drugs or any illegal substances.

Older people don't do drugs?

New reporting rule governing your ability to drive - FoxyJukebox

It does worry me that so many people THINK they are fit to drive when very clearly they are NOT and they are intelligent enough to know it.

Put it another way--how many of us know friends/family who have said out loud " I don't feel safe driving, I'm going to give it up"...?

New reporting rule governing your ability to drive - gordonbennet

They're determined to clear the roads of plebs no longer deemed useful ready for the Zil Lanes one way or another.

New reporting rule governing your ability to drive - madf

Brother and I insisted our father stop driving at 78.

He was dangerous with a spate of minor accidents. Only needed one chance and he would have killed/badly injured someone.

New reporting rule governing your ability to drive - corax

When I test drove a car from a small Peugeot dealer in a Suffolk village some years ago, the salesman told me that a lot of the local population were generally past retirement age, and on more than one occasion during test drives he had to lean over and steer the car back over the white line to avoid an accident. Amusing for me at the time, but quite scary for him, and I don't expect he thought he'd be assuming the role of instructor without dual controls.

New reporting rule governing your ability to drive - alan1302

They're determined to clear the roads of plebs no longer deemed useful ready for the Zil Lanes one way or another.

You think it's a good idea to drive if you have a serious medical condition that affects your driving?

New reporting rule governing your ability to drive - RT

They're determined to clear the roads of plebs no longer deemed useful ready for the Zil Lanes one way or another.

You think it's a good idea to drive if you have a serious medical condition that affects your driving?

They aren't all serious medical conditions, eg:-

Alcohol problems

You must tell DVLA if you have an alcohol problem.

The problem is that the DVLA regards simply exceeding the NHS guideline of 14 units/week as an alcohol problem - that's most drivers on UK roads!

New reporting rule governing your ability to drive - FP

"The problem is that the DVLA regards simply exceeding the NHS guideline of 14 units/week as an alcohol problem - that's most drivers on UK roads!"

I'm not so sure.

According to Drinkaware, in 2019, 48% of adults (aged 16+) reported drinking alcohol at least once a week. That means a majority of adults don't drink every week.

According to the NHS, in 2021, 79% of participants reported that they had drunk alcohol in the last 12 months, and 49% reported that they drank alcohol at least once a week.

The NHS also reported that a higher proportion of men (28%) than women (15%) drank at increasing or higher risk levels (over 14 units in the last week for both men and women).

Though it would be unwise to place too much trust in such statistics, they do not suggest a majority of drivers on UK roads routinely drink enough for their driving to be considered potentially dangerous by the DVLA. In any case, people who like the occasional drink and are sensible will not drink before driving.

Edited by FP on 02/12/2023 at 13:30

New reporting rule governing your ability to drive - barney100

Used to live near a temperance hall, they have been banging on about booze since it was discovered.

New reporting rule governing your ability to drive - alan1302

The problem is that the DVLA regards simply exceeding the NHS guideline of 14 units/week as an alcohol problem - that's most drivers on UK roads!

No, they don't and if you do regularly drink more than 14 units you don't need to tell them. I'm not convinced most people do either every week.

New reporting rule governing your ability to drive - RT

The problem is that the DVLA regards simply exceeding the NHS guideline of 14 units/week as an alcohol problem - that's most drivers on UK roads!

No, they don't and if you do regularly drink more than 14 units you don't need to tell them. I'm not convinced most people do either every week.

Perhaps I didn't explain it very well - it's not uncommon for GPs and consultants to ask patients how much alcohol they drink and note it in their records - if an unrelated condition DOES require you, or a doctor, to report it to DVLA then the medical reports from your GP or consultant will show the alcohol quantity admitted to - if it's over the NHS guidelines DVLA seem to impose the same medical examination as those convicted of two drink-dring offences within 10 years.

Whether or not that's most drivers or simply many drivers is somewhat irrelevant, it's still a lot of drivers.

In my specific case I never drank and drove but I did exceed NHS guidelines and because I came to DVLAs attention for an unrelated condition, which rightly needs thorough assessment, I'm also required to pass an annual medical to show no alcohol dependency.

New reporting rule governing your ability to drive - Bromptonaut

The problem is that the DVLA regards simply exceeding the NHS guideline of 14 units/week as an alcohol problem - that's most drivers on UK roads!

Can you provide a link to DVLA to back that up?

Not looking for a fight, just wondering if I need to let them know I'm a bit over...

New reporting rule governing your ability to drive - Brit_in_Germany

You're OK, general paranoia is not one of the notifiable conditions.

New reporting rule governing your ability to drive - Engineer Andy

Something that will affect us all if we attend a GP appointment or arrange and eye test.

118 medical conditions some I have never heard of !

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/medical/drivers-must-declare-these-118-health-conditions-to-dvla-to-avoid-hefty-fine/ar-AA1bLiSU?cvid=eaace289f82a4bfb9907d2f61bc31b55&ei=45

As someone who 'technically' suffers from two of them on the list, I'm just glad that you only have to report them if they are serious enough (one may well be in remission as I've not had any effects since 2011) to actually affect driving or happen when you drive, which they fortunately don't on both counts, for the moment.

New reporting rule governing your ability to drive - catsdad

I wonder how common it is for doctors to advise patients to declare a condition to the authorities. I suspect it’s very rare.

We had three elderly relatives over the years who the family persuaded to stop driving. Two were borderline but the other was dangerous. Their doctors never suggested it (as far as we are aware).

New reporting rule governing your ability to drive - madf

Doctors rarely get to see patients for longer than 10 minutes so any thought they might have time to advise on driving is unlikely to be foremost on their minds.

New reporting rule governing your ability to drive - Steveieb

Quite a common reaction from risk averse trainee or second year GPs is to advise no driving until you are seen by a consultant. This can take an age and they often refer you for tests before clearing you for driving .

New reporting rule governing your ability to drive - Terry W

Some years ago I was told to stop driving for 6 months following an incident - although there has never been a recurrence.

I spoke to my GP who was understandably risk adverse and advised me (a) to comply and (b) advise DVLA. All annoying but reasonable! DVLA noted the problem but did not cancel my licence.

After six months with no problems I wanted to start driving again. DVLA were truly dilatory in responding to any requests of them.

Eventually I sent them a recorded delivery letter saying that unless I heard from them to the contrary I would assume resuming driving was OK. Predictably nothing was heard.

If there are going to be new (entirely sensible) rules applied DVLA must be responsive to the needs of motorists for whom driving is an integral part of daily life - not a response as and when they get around to it.

New reporting rule governing your ability to drive - jchinuk

"You must tell DVLA if your attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD)"

Given that most kids seem to get diagnosed with ADHD these days, does a childhood diagnosis count?

On a more general point, if you tell the DVLA should you also tell your insurance company? And will your premium increase?

New reporting rule governing your ability to drive - badbusdriver

"You must tell DVLA if your attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD)"

Given that most kids seem to get diagnosed with ADHD these days, does a childhood diagnosis count?

Most?

The overall ADHD diagnosis rate for children (5-15 years) is circa 5% (3-4% for adults)

New reporting rule governing your ability to drive - movilogo

If you have some serious issues it is likely that you'd be visiting GPs anyway and GP would advise you not to drive.

I would not pay much attention to DVLA's list.

New reporting rule governing your ability to drive - RT

On a more general point, if you tell the DVLA should you also tell your insurance company? And will your premium increase?

Yes you should tell your insurer, including DVLA's decision - which may be no restriction or they may issue a short-term licence, eg 1 year after which you need to re-apply to DVLA but can usually keep on driving while they make their decision.

When I informed my insurer that my previously "straight" licence have been revoked on medical grounds and subsequently been re-instated as a 1-year licence, there was no increase in premium.

These days, DVLA goes to such lengths during it's medical assessments that insurers and drivers can be assured that their decision is adequate for road safety.

New reporting rule governing your ability to drive - RickyBoy

I've just had to apply to renew my licence as I'll hit 73 in Feb.

There are only 21 questions to answer (Form D46) and fortunately I didn't have to tick any of the boxes – this year!!!

A 10-min online process and hopefully I'll receive the replacement within the next fortnight?

PS. DVLA send you a reminder/let you apply 90-days ahead, which is good...

New reporting rule governing your ability to drive - RickyBoy

...health questions...

New reporting rule governing your ability to drive - Steveieb

Seem to remember that there is a requirement to take a medical if you wish to drive a large Transit van when you are over 75.

Does the same apply to towing trailers and caravans ?

New reporting rule governing your ability to drive - RT

Seem to remember that there is a requirement to take a medical if you wish to drive a large Transit van when you are over 75.

Does the same apply to towing trailers and caravans ?

You need to take a medical over the age of 70 to drive any vehicle over 3500 kg which includes large motorhomes and Jumbo Transits.

All car drivers regardless of age or when passed their driving test can drive vehicles up to 3500 kg, towing a trailer up to 3500 kg.

Edited by RT on 05/12/2023 at 22:05

New reporting rule governing your ability to drive - RickyBoy

...ordered my renewed 3-year licence online on Friday. It arrived today (Weds)!

Impressive work from the DVLA. Thank you Swansea...

New reporting rule governing your ability to drive - gordonbennet

...ordered my renewed 3-year licence online on Friday. It arrived today (Weds)!

Impressive work from the DVLA. Thank you Swansea...

They are on the ball these days, my HGV licence (always needs referral to the medical section due to childhood eye injury) came back in 4 working days, thanks in no small way to the doctor i use for my now annual medicals, who is always spot on with the paperwork.

New reporting rule governing your ability to drive - badbusdriver

...ordered my renewed 3-year licence online on Friday. It arrived today (Weds)!

Impressive work from the DVLA. Thank you Swansea...

They are on the ball these days, my HGV licence (always needs referral to the medical section due to childhood eye injury) came back in 4 working days, thanks in no small way to the doctor i use for my now annual medicals, who is always spot on with the paperwork.

Lucky you!

When I decided to renew the bus driving part of my license (in case I chose to, or had to give up window cleaning), the forms were returned (after about a month) due to Dr not having filled them in properly!

New reporting rule governing your ability to drive - gordonbennet

Lucky you!

When I decided to renew the bus driving part of my license (in case I chose to, or had to give up window cleaning), the forms were returned (after about a month) due to Dr not having filled them in properly!

Indeed, for some of my colleagues who use other medics return can be weeks or months, i always ask the doc if she's going to retire to one of her villas so far no she's carrying on, phew, last year when things were supposed tostill be bad due to the after effects of (national economic suicide) the lockdown farce i still got mine back in less than 3 weeks, i can't knock DVLA.

New reporting rule governing your ability to drive - FoxyJukebox
Same here!…on line application ….envelope through the letterbox 48 hrs later!……however they did ask for the old one back which cost me a stamp!

Edited by FoxyJukebox on 07/12/2023 at 08:10

New reporting rule governing your ability to drive - RickyBoy

…however they did ask for the old one back which cost me a stamp!

Ay, yes, there is that small 'downside' to the transaction...