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to service or not to service? - egor
I got my primera last april full service on purchase previously was show car for local nissan dealer, its now on 87,000 so i'm thinking shall i give it a small service now (oil,filter,sparkplugs) or wait until end april when it needs mot and give it a full service with engine tune?
to service or not to service? - Blue {P}
My Fiesta need servicing every 12.5K, it has now done just over 10K from new, but I think I've over topped up the oil slightly, plus it's too long in my opinion.

Now that I've followed HJs advice and left the original oil in for 10K I'm taking it for an oil and filter change tommorow, for £20 at RapifFit it's not worth me not doing it, as I'd rather not run around with too much oil in the sump for the next couple of months until it hits the 12.5K mark.

And no, doing it myself is *not* an option, too much risk of spilling it on the folk's driveway, plus the engine is locked underneath plastic covers! I can't even inspect the sparks to see if that's where the oil went!

Blue
to service or not to service? - Blue {P}
Forgot to mention, I'll still be giving it the full dealer service in 2,500 miles time.

If you can get an oil change done cheaply at somewhere like National Tyres I would do that, mightn't even cost 20 quid.

Blue
to service or not to service? - Mad Maxy
THis question is on my mind too. 03/03 Audi A4 FSI. 11,000 miles now. Service indiator says 7,000 miles or 333 days to go before first oil change...

I'm mean and hate spending money, but I'm getting twitchy already (not least because of HJ's 5k-7k message he's always hammering home). Another 7k miles till new oil, notwithstanding 'long life' oil? VAG gotta be kiddin'.

I am planning to keep it only for four years/50k miles max, but I reckon change oil/service now, right?
to service or not to service? - Blue {P}
I would personally be wanting to change the oil, maybe nothing else though.

I find it amzing that Clios now come with an 18,000 mile interval, despite there not been any major changes to the car to justify the extended interval that I'm aware of. I'm prepared to be corrected though.

But, as most Clios get city use, short runs etc. I think we're gonna see a lot of them in the future dying early due to only been serviced every 2 years of 18,000 miles.

Blue
to service or not to service? - egor
I can get a interim service for £25 at my peugeot express fit place. They just change oil and filter,check brakes and tyres, top up levels or could go to national get oil and filter £15 then get them to do a free brake and tyre check and top up levels myself .
to service or not to service? - DavidHM
Blue, I think you're mad changing the oil at 10k with a service due at 12.5k. I'd keep the original oil in until the first service and then change again at 18,750.

As for the Clio - I think originally the 8v DIET/Energy series of engines were designed to run on something thicker than the semi-synth they put in nowadays. I imagine the 16v ones will run well on something thinner, but a mate's Clio would use a bit under a pint every thousand miles, and with a 1 gallon sump, was effectively getting 9k changes from top ups...

And the Audi? Erm... not sure. But I personally wouldn't take a car that new outside the dealer network and, whatever you think of variable servicing, I'm not sure that it's worth either spending £60+ for a main dealer change, or the risk of taking it outside the network, however good National's £15 change may be.
to service or not to service? - BobbyG
My Scenic diesel dci engine has 18000 miles between services although it does get a "B" service free from the dealer at 9000 miles, although I think this is more just checks than any actual work being done.
to service or not to service? - Blue {P}
Do you reckon the car will come to any harm from running with a bit too much engine oil in then for another 2,500 miles? That's the main reason that I would want to change it, as I added about a litre to top it up, but seem to have gone a bit overboard!

It's cheaper and easier for me to have a whole oil change done than to try and drain some oil out on the drive, hence I thought that might solve my problem without me getting my hands dirty!

Having said that it's already done about 1,000 miles since I overfilled. It's not a huge overfill, probably about a quarter inch on the dipstick.

Blue
to service or not to service? - nick
A small overfill won't hurt, besides you've already done 1k so if it was going to knacker the engine it would have already done so. How much overfull is it? You can guestimate by looking at the high and low marks on the dipstick which equate to whatever volume of oil the handbook tells you and see how far over the high mark you are.
On the more general question of service intervals, Subarus have a reputation for longevity and my 2000 Legacy has a oil change interval of 7.5k with 5w/30 fully synthetic. Could this be one of the reasons the engines last so long? Most cars go double this before an oil change. Have Subaru listened to HJ? Perhaps engineers run the show at Fuji Heavy Industries and not accountants.
to service or not to service? - Dalglish
castrol slx 2 longlife designed for extended service intervals. no benefit to castrol to tell punters not to change oil every 5k miles. oil change cost minimal. so believe audi/vw castrol and you not change oil in some cases up to 30k miles. believe hj and change oil at 5k miles. all it cost you is a few extra quid for peace of mind.

who knows. one day maybe synthetic oil get so good that they seal engine for life! just like some gearboxes and batteries and cv joints. my dad says in fifties and sixties cars had multitude of grease nipples, gearbox oil changes, axle oil changes, tappets set, points set and changed, spark plugs, batteries etc. all needed servicing every 3k miles. electronic ignition and fuel injection unheard of!! technology progress still some people stick with sixties mindset.
to service or not to service? - stokie
>I'm not sure that it's worth either spending £60+ for a main >dealer change, or the risk of taking it outside the network, >however good National's £15 change may be.

Buy a genuine oil filter and oil from a dealer in another town, do the change yourself taking care not to mangle the sump plug, and your local dealer will never know about your crafty oil change.

Do service light indicators on BMWs etc actually test the state of the oil in the sump?
to service or not to service? - Ian D
I have done mant times what Stokie says, after the first service (10K ish) when the engine has bedded in I have done interim oil and filter changes on my cars, ie Fiat Coupe service interval 12k, extras change done at 6k, Golf service interval 10k, extra change at 5k.... Use a manufacturers filter and sump plug and the same oil and torque the sump plug up properly and warranty will be unaffected, and you end up with a longer lasting engine for minimal effort/cost.