What is life like with your car? Let us know and win £500 in John Lewis vouchers | No thanks
N/A - Motoring Insurance - FP

I'm sorry if I've missed something recent on this topic here on the forum.

My annual search for car insurance has just started again and the landscape looks rather different this year. Last year I paid £336. This year the quotes I'm gathering are in the region of £440 - 460, for the same car, which is now worth rather less. The compulsory excess now seems universal across my quotes at £350; on last year's policy it was £100.

I assume I'm not alone.

N/A - Motoring Insurance - Chris M

I've found that reducing the voluntary excess down from whatever the 'suggested' amount is to zero makes so little difference to the premium as to make any voluntary excess pointless. May just be me with no claims (other than a couple of glass) for 20+ years, being old (ish) and living in a low crime area.

N/A - Motoring Insurance - Gibbo_Wirral

I renewed last week. Every £50 I added to the voluntary excess knocked about a fiver off the premium.

N/A - Motoring Insurance - Andrew-T

I renewed last week. Every £50 I added to the voluntary excess knocked about a fiver off the premium.

Seems the actuaries think your number comes up about every 10 years ?

N/A - Motoring Insurance - _

We are with LV house and car, Car (2 cars multipolicy) no change last time. House, this time about £12 less (due now)

N/A - Motoring Insurance - Engineer Andy

Mine went up to £189 from £178 last year. No change on the compulsary excess of £0 and voluntary of £100.

Whilst prices do fluctuate due to external factors, other than having a fault claim, the normal one that makes the biggest change is our age. Mine dropped significantly between 25-30 and has been dropping consistently until my mid 40s and has generally remained around the same since.

My dad's insurance increased (for him - it was very low to start with, even compared to mine) a decent amount when he reached 75 years old, and I suspect now that he';s just turned 80, it will do so again and more often.

It would be interesting to see how each insurer does this sort of thing, although many have very different 'starting point' premiums and discount percentages.

N/A - Motoring Insurance - FoxyJukebox
To compare and for fun, I got an on line quote for a third party fire and theft policy .
This turned out to be marginally more expensive than the comprehensive policy renewal figure.
Wonder why?
N/A - Motoring Insurance - Andrew-T
To compare and for fun, I got an on line quote for a third party fire and theft policy . This turned out to be marginally more expensive than the comprehensive policy renewal figure. Wonder why?

I think that will depend greatly on the value of the car ? If the car is of little value the comprehensive cover is unlikely to be invoked except as a write-off ?

N/A - Motoring Insurance - FoxyJukebox
Well maybe-but if cheaper comprehensive prices can be achieved by nudging up the excess-then maybe it’s worth risking that route?
N/A - Motoring Insurance - Engineer Andy
Well maybe-but if cheaper comprehensive prices can be achieved by nudging up the excess-then maybe it’s worth risking that route?

Sometimes. It often depends upon what the existing voluntary excess is and whether the policy default excess is zero or [whatever]. I found a few years ago when I was still with esure (had been for about 12 years at the time) that both my compulsary and voluntary excesses were zero, but then they jacked the price up by about 10% (I was in my early - mid 40s then).

I checked what difference it would make to all my quotes, including theirs, by changing my voluntary excess to £100, and that took 10% off across most of them. I've left it as such ever since, and found going to £200 made a far smaller difference, so thought better of it.

Of course, what worked for me (cost-benefit wise) might not for another person.

N/A - Motoring Insurance - Bromptonaut

I suspect that insurers are as keen as the next commercial outfit to blame inflation but 30% is quite a lot more than 10%!!

Is there any other change that might affect it such as your work, your spouse or their work, where you live or how you use the car

In my experience the car's value makes very little difference. Mine hardly changed when when I replaced a 10yo basic Pug 205 with a brand new Citroen Xantia in 2000.

Edited by Bromptonaut on 16/05/2023 at 16:01

N/A - Motoring Insurance - FP

I have revisited one of the comparison sites and changed my date of birth, reverse-ageing myself (if only!) by ten years.

The quotes drop by over £100.

So that's the (rather depressing) answer. It appears I have crossed a particularly unpleasant threshold.

Edited by FP on 16/05/2023 at 16:37

N/A - Motoring Insurance - Ethan Edwards

A friend of my wife's has turned 80 and the online stuff scares her. So I was roped in to get her car insurance.

As her current insurers wanted an increase from around 450 to 650. For a Jazz. Managed to get a policy at 530 (halving her excess) but it was surprising to me as my own car (EV) costs me about 350 quid. She lives in a nicer area than I do as well.

I recall you used to get gouged because you weren't 21. Now once you retire it seems you're getting gouged again. She's sharp as a tack with a clean driving record. And it's a Jazz FFS.

Car insurers seem to be a strange lot.

Edited by Ethan Edwards on 16/05/2023 at 21:40

N/A - Motoring Insurance - Engineer Andy

A friend of my wife's has turned 80 and the online stuff scares her. So I was roped in to get her car insurance.

As her current insurers wanted an increase from around 450 to 650. For a Jazz. Managed to get a policy at 530 (halving her excess) but it was surprising to me as my own car (EV) costs me about 350 quid. She lives in a nicer area than I do as well.

I recall you used to get gouged because you weren't 21. Now once you retire it seems you're getting gouged again. She's sharp as a tack with a clean driving record. And it's a Jazz FFS.

Car insurers seem to be a strange lot.

I do have some sympathy (but not a great deal) with insurers, as I suspect some older drivers do lose a decent amount of their skills as they reach and go beyond 80. I was getting rather 'concerned' at my dad's ability when he was driving his 'new' Fiesta the other week, something I've not experienced before.

He has found it very hard - maybe impossible - to adjust to this newer car with all its new tech and to *somewhat* adapt his previous driving style to suite. My sister (who is now on his policy as a named driver*) drove it the week before after he was complaining about it and found it was 'fine' with 'no problems'.

* Putting a middle aged relative with a clean claims / driving record on an older person's insurance can reduce the premium, rather like my dad used to do for me when I was in my 20s and 30s (it made no difference in my 40s until he turned 75, then it rose, so I swapped him out for my [younger] sister and it went back down).

N/A - Motoring Insurance - Falkirk Bairn

When I turned 70 I thought my premiums would rise year after year.

They have risen over the last 7 years from say £170 to £210 IIRC - hardly a huge increase - taking inflation in to account the premiums have actually fallen.

In 3 years time I will be 80 - that might just be the time they decide to drive up premiums markedly, then again it might be in August this year!

N/A - Motoring Insurance - RickyBoy

I'm 72 and have been with Saga for a number of years for two vehicles.

I look elsewhere at every renewal but have to say I've stuck with them even if premiums have risen by 10-15%, however this March one went down by £35.00!

Have never had to claim (everything crossed) but as we all know – so many factors will influence your price – but generally I'm happy to stay with them unless they want silly money.

Better the devil you know, etc. ...

N/A - Motoring Insurance - Xileno

I was with LV for several years for both car and house. Then they became less competitive so I left. For the car I went to RAC but last year that went up from £135 to £147 with £300 Excess. I swapped to Budget and renewed at £114 (fully comp) and same Excess so happy with that. However my car is almost worthless based on insurance valuations (£325) so if I prang it then I will get nothing but I would lose anyway since there is no way I could get another 2007 Focus with FSH including recent cambelt with only 83K on the clock and barely a mark on it for £325.

N/A - Motoring Insurance - Lee Power

I've seen reports that a lot of Lexus NX / RX & Toyota Rav4 owners reporting there insurance renewal premiums have shot up due to the current CAN invader theft problem.

I was speaking to someone in the know last week, it seems with some insurance companies, prestige vehicles like Jaguar, Range Rover & Mercedes that come factory fitted with a Thatcham approved tracker will refuse to offer theft cover unless an aftermarket Cat 5 tracking device is also fitted to the vehicle.

The factory fitted tracking devices are quickly ripped out by professional thieves as they know where they are fitted.

N/A - Motoring Insurance - Steveieb

Good morning Xileno,

Did you see the story of the driver who transferred ownership of his Mk 1 Focus to Sadiq Khan when he was refused through ULEZ to drive it in London?

N/A - Motoring Insurance - bathtub tom

Did you see the story of the driver who transferred ownership of his Mk 1 Focus to Sadiq Khan when he was refused through ULEZ to drive it in London?

I did and don't believe it. If ownership was changed, then the tax would be revoked (unless Sadiq taxed it, which I find unlikely). Whoever drove it would be liable for driving an untaxed vehicle.

It wasn't 'refused', but became liable for the daily charge.

N/A - Motoring Insurance - Andrew-T

In 3 years time I will be 80 - that might just be the time they decide to drive up premiums markedly, then again it might be in August this year!

SWMBO is 83 and hasn't suffered any great increase in premium (LV=). When renewal time comes round with a modest increase, she usually picks up the phone and talks it down again.

As has been suggested above, it probably varies a lot with make and modernity of car. SWMBO drives the 2008 207SW, which has been a constant for 14 years.

Edited by Andrew-T on 17/05/2023 at 18:21

N/A - Motoring Insurance - Engineer Andy

Sounds like LV is quite good for oldies. My dad has been with them in recent years after his former 'staff' policy (well 'retiree' policy) with AXA started to go up quite a bit and, in his opinion the level of service wasn't that good (he used to work for a firm AXA bought).

N/A - Motoring Insurance - Brit_in_Germany

Chart 3a shows the reason for premiums exploding:

www.gov.uk/government/statistics/reported-road-cas...0

but this is balanced by older people generally driving less.

N/A - Motoring Insurance - Terry W

The medical deficiencies often experienced as one ages do not all happen, at the same age, in all people.

At 70 some may suffer poor eyesight, night vision problems, poor concentration, slow reactions, etc etc.

At 85 others may exhibit few if any of these symptoms.

Perhaps there are two insurance company models - those that set premiums on the basis that all over 70 are incompetent, dementia ridden, high risks, and those which assume advancing years means cautious unless proven other wise by a few claims.

N/A - Motoring Insurance - bathtub tom

Is Terry W AI?

N/A - Motoring Insurance - Falkirk Bairn

My wife & I are both in our late 70s.

Driving since I was 17 I have never made a claim, that was my fault. against my insurance - minor scrape of bumper etc paid out of our own pockets (less than excess).

Claimed a few times when 3rd party was at fault - received the excess back on every occasion - between us say 7 or 8 claims in 60 years - sometimes excess reclaimed in a few weeks, once it took almost 2 years!

We are insured with LV and increases have been modest most years but last year it was more - just over £200. Likewise house & contents LV was bumped up but not excessively.

July & August is renewal - big increase I do comparison checks and walk where they are ripping me off (Esure about 6/7 years ago 40% increase) - modest increase I pay up.