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Astra H 1.6 petrol - Should I have my Repairs done? - Vauxhall Astra owner
Hello everyone. I have an Astra H 2010 1.6 VVT. It’s a cracking car if I’m honest and is currently on 73,000 miles. It is now at the cambelt stage. Also I’ve been advised to have the camshaft pulleys changed to remove this annoying rattle in the engine bay. It is a common thing apparently on these. For maintenance purposes I’m also having the water pump, thermostat valve, coolant drain and refil, aux belt, rocker cover gasket, oil change and filters. I service it myself every 5k miles. My repairs will be quite costly so I’m pretty sure I will have it done because the car has never let me down yet. I do 15,000 miles a year in it for work. A very small part of me has started to wonder if I should just cut my losses and buy a run around for £1500 with a years mot and take my chances. Just wondering what people’s thoughts are. I’ve never had a diesel so the thought buying one isn’t filling me with ease. I hear some right horror stories about dpfs etc. I do have a few mates who just buy old diesels and run them until they fail the mot or go wrong then spend another 1500 on another one. Doesn’t sound like a bad idea as long as you get a good one. I have no idea what diesels are decent.

Edited by Vauxhall Astra owner on 07/05/2023 at 21:18

Astra H 1.6 petrol - Should I have my Repairs done? - Warning

This is a car you have owned and you know. Why take a risk on an unknown car?

Finding a good run around is n't going to be easy. Car prices are high since Covid and finding a good example is going to be hard.

Astra H 1.6 petrol - Should I have my Repairs done? - Adampr

A £1,500 car today is a £400 car 3 years ago (in some cases, literally the same car). Stick with your astra.

Astra H 1.6 petrol - Should I have my Repairs done? - Vauxhall Astra owner
Very good point. I guess it’s better the devil you know
Astra H 1.6 petrol - Should I have my Repairs done? - Engineer Andy
Very good point. I guess it’s better the devil you know

Not just that - you're likely be spending a relatively small amount compared to buying a 'new' (to you) second hand replacement car (never mind a brand new car) where prices are around a third higher than the pre-Pandemic era historical norm.

As long as your Astra is otherwise structurally sound (not starting to badly rust, including underneath, noting that a bit of surface rust there isn't an issue) and otherwise reliable, then it's a good idea to put £1k into a car worth that much if it then lasts another 5 or likely 10 years.

My Mazda3 (also a 1.6 petrol with VVT, Mazda's version and chain driven) is in a similar condition, but is 4-5 years older, so with a bit of TLC and luck, your car should keep going for a decent amount of time. Wear and tear will obviously cost a bit, but nothing like buying a new or new-er second hand car.

My dear old dad is now realising this, having PXed his 08 plate basic Fiesta 1.25L 82PS petrol (which, aside from a few minor issues and the engine 'not sounding right' [but which never seemed to be an issue when I was a passenger and he never had looked into, etc]) for a 70 plate Fiesta 1L Turbo 125PS upper spec model where he is finding it very difficult to get to grips with all the new tech and different driving style.

He spent £15k to change, when I'd venture that it would've cost him about £1k - £1.5k tops (probably less) to have any problems looked into and fixed. Ironically, he complianed about the ride quality in the old car (shod on 195/50 R15 tyres) and the new one comes on 205/45 R17s, and its just as firm, especially on the local badly surfaced roads.

You have the benefit of bothering to seek out opinions before deciding on what to do. He didn't, and is now experiencing serious buyer regret, after likely being 'played' (IMHO) by his local dealership who phoned him on spec to invite him to a 'special sales event' for 'valued customers' (mugs, in other words), playing on his ego / laziness and naivety to think they were doing this for his benefit and to not ask for advice from others first.

The daft thing is that he is probably 5 years from giving up driving and indicated he won't be doing any long distance (which to him is above 30 miles) driving any more, negating the need for anything other than a 'cheap shopping car'. It's not as though my parents are that well off either and can easily afford this change.

IMHO it's only worth buying a replacement car if and when:

1. Your needs change enough that the current one isn't suitable and no alternatives can be found other than changing it;

2. The existing car is badly and irrevocably (and expensively [for bodywork replacements etc) corroding, especially structrally;

3. The existing car has a lot and/or very expensive (I mean £5k and up) parts replacements needed and on a regular basis - parts failing that really shouldn't, even in older cars. Most engines should really last the physical lifetime of the car is well designed and made.

This doesn't include the need to replace several 'wear and tear' parts in a short space of time (suspension bits, tyres, PS pump, etc) which would probably just be bad luck to all come at once and likely then won't have to be replaced for a good number of years afterwards

4. Replacement parts and skilled labour to maintain for the car crucial to its operation are very hard to come by (e.g. a car from a make no longer in businessor a very old car ) and thus are expensive or require the car to go a long way to be maintained.

Even with Vauxhall now part of PSA/Stellatis and maybe slowly 'winding down' its sales and operations like many former GM stablemtaes (Holden in Australia being one notable one), you'll likely have not not worry about that, especially as your car is one of the most common Vauxhalls around, and not a complex model either.

The above issue might more be for the Rover car owner or somone owning a TVR or some other 'specialist' car with a decreasing pool of mechanic experise.

Astra H 1.6 petrol - Should I have my Repairs done? - Vauxhall Astra owner
I think it’s just the culture we live in. Everyone wants new stuff they can’t afford. And are not realistic. I’ve also never agreed that if repairs cost more than the book value of the car, they shouldn’t be done. The way prices are at the moment I’d say it’s not the right time to change. I’ll keep this running as long as I can and keep putting a bit away. The car is spotless underneath. I’ve also had all the discs and pads changed last year. It’s had part of the exhaust changed. And I service it myself every 5k miles. I keep the oil topped up, not that it ever drinks any oil and drive it sensibly. So it should be fine. I think it will need a clutch within the next year or so but again, it’s west and tear. I don’t think you can have anything against a car needing wear and tear items replaced. When you consider I only payed £1700 for it 3 years ago and it was on 43,000 at the time, I’ve had my moneys worth 3 times over.

Edited by Vauxhall Astra owner on 08/05/2023 at 16:48

Astra H 1.6 petrol - Should I have my Repairs done? - FoxyJukebox
I’d keep it , have all the work done then give it a birthday with some new tyres as well your extra maintenance-then give it a stonking good valet inside and out including a hard wax. Oh yes-and what about some new aftermarket car mats , back and front.
New car!!
Astra H 1.6 petrol - Should I have my Repairs done? - bathtub tom
I’ve been advised to have the camshaft pulleys changed to remove this annoying rattle in the engine bay. It is a common thing apparently on these

I don't see how replacing a pulley will remove a rattle, are you sure that's what you were told?

Astra H 1.6 petrol - Should I have my Repairs done? - Vauxhall Astra owner
Yes mate very sure. The internals break up and then they end up with play on them
Astra H 1.6 petrol - Should I have my Repairs done? - Vauxhall Astra owner
youtu.be/gIEBDfn4TBg
Astra H 1.6 petrol - Should I have my Repairs done? - elekie&a/c doctor

Variable valve timing de-phaser pulleys . Most manufacturers use this system these days.

Astra H 1.6 petrol - Should I have my Repairs done? - Oli rag

I had one of those for 8 years and had very little trouble with it, so I’d get the work done and keep it. Aside from the odd sensor failing they are very dependable.

Astra H 1.6 petrol - Should I have my Repairs done? - nellyjak

keep it..!...once that work is done you'll have a great vehicle that you can continue to trust...far better than any £1500 "banger" that you know nowt about.

Astra H 1.6 petrol - Should I have my Repairs done? - Lee Power

Its a simple petrol Vauxhall that can be fixed anywhere & parts picked up cheap, it will be worth spending the money on then keep running it.

Trying to find a decent £1500 run around is as likely as me getting a date with Drew Barrymore.

Astra H 1.6 petrol - Should I have my Repairs done? - badbusdriver

I agree with what has been said, keep the Astra.

This makes far more sense than chopping it in for what is essentially a banger.

Astra H 1.6 petrol - Should I have my Repairs done? - Vauxhall Astra owner
It’s never let me down yet. I use it essentially as a van. Put all my tools in it. Got roof bars on it lol. Ladders on roof. I will have the work done.
Astra H 1.6 petrol - Should I have my Repairs done? - John F

Thanks for this thread and link - really interesting. I wonder if the cost of repairs has exceeded the theoretical cost of fuel saved by the VVT kit which hopefully made the engine more efficient? Our simple Mk1 Focus 1.6 Zetec engine and its ancillaries did well over double that mileage and needed no repair at all apart from a coil pack.

Astra H 1.6 petrol - Should I have my Repairs done? - Xileno

Early Megane and Scenic MK2 models with the 1.6 engine were notorious for dephaser problems. Not a particularly big expense although I think the cambelt had to be disturbed at the same time. Memory might be a bit patchy now...

Astra H 1.6 petrol - Should I have my Repairs done? - SLO76
Common problem on VVT Vauxhall’s of this era, I had a low mileage Astra H 1.8 sting me a number of years ago, I just caught it in time before the timing belt was shredded thanks to the buyer reporting an engine rattle. I paid for two new VVT pulleys and a new timing belt kit plus water pump, it wasn’t cheap but this wee car went on to serve its new owner very well with no other issues for many years to date - he still has it. I recommend paying for the work and give it a full valet then relax in the knowledge that you have a good car with no other major worries. These are generally robust and cheap to run. I certainly wouldn’t bother looking for a cheap £1500 replacement in the current (and foreseeable) market as this is one step from scrapyard money.
Astra H 1.6 petrol - Should I have my Repairs done? - Vauxhall Astra owner
Thanks for the reply. I’ve heard other Astras that are much worse than mine but as I’m trying to do everything to prolong its life, I’m having this work done. I rarely go above 65 / 70 mph in it. I’m not one of those people who can drive a car and just turn up the stereo to avoid hearing noises. If the car isn’t running spotless it annoys me. I’ve had it since 43,000 and until. 6 months ago it was super quiet. As long as it lasts another 50 k I have no issues paying for repairs. It’s when you pay and then something else goes wrong catastrophically that it’s annoying. But I think it will be fine.

Edited by Vauxhall Astra owner on 08/05/2023 at 15:22