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3008 - Being overtook whilst manoeuvring - Potatohead44

Evening all,

Any advice or comments welcomed.

Came off a roundabout onto a dual carriageway, whilst waiting at traffic lights saw a cyclist go onto same dual carriageway.

As I catch up with cyclist I indicate a good distance back, check mirrors etc and there is a BMW in same lane as me. As I start manoeuvre into other lane to overtake cyclist. I notice BMW accelerate ridiculously quickly to start to overtake me (with indicating and as I'm pulling out), I keep looking in mirror thinking surely he's not going to try squeeze past me......and eventually I bottle it and swerve back in, thinking a collision in imminent (he probably would have slammed his breaks on, but who knows and don't want to risk it with kids in the car). All this time the cyclist is getting closer to me and I have to slam my breaks on.

A) If I pulled out and got rear ended, who would have been to blame? Surely other car would just say I pulled out in front of him.

B) If I had hit cyclist would I be to solely to blame?

Only have forward facing dashcam so no rear footage of guy behind me being a.....

Thanks all!

Edited by Potatohead44 on 01/05/2023 at 18:36

3008 - Being overtook whilst manoeuvring - ExA35Owner

Defensive driving says that you should have aborted the overtake much earlier, then you could have tucked in behind the cyclist with no drama.

(and please... a niggle of mine ... brakes not breaks...)

3008 - Being overtook whilst manoeuvring - Potatohead44

Defensive driving says that you should have aborted the overtake much earlier, then you could have tucked in behind the cyclist with no drama.

(and please... a niggle of mine ... brakes not breaks...)

Ha breaks! Sorry, what terrible English!

Thanks for your response, I agree, problem with higher speed roads is that even when you abort quickly the hazard approaches a lot quicker. I'm just glad I attempted to manoeuvre with plenty of time to spare.

But I guess the lesson learnt here is assume everyone else on the road is an i****

Edited by Potatohead44 on 01/05/2023 at 19:07

3008 - Being overtook whilst manoeuvring - FP

"I guess the lesson learnt here is assume everyone else on the road is an i****"

Sadly I am afraid that's true. Or at least suspect "everyone else on the road is an i****"

3008 - Being overtook whilst manoeuvring - Adampr

A - the driver behind would have been at fault. He could simply slow down at any point to avoid a collision.

B - yes, because you could avoid the cyclist, as you did

3008 - Being overtook whilst manoeuvring - sammy1

It seems to me that you had plenty of time to command your position on the road and give the cyclist plenty of room. Being half in one lane and half in the overtaking lane is not desirable. The guy behind would have to give way and abort his overtake It is a rat race on todays roads

3008 - Being overtook whilst manoeuvring - Andrew-T

... Being half in one lane and half in the overtaking lane is not desirable. The guy behind would have to give way and abort his overtake ...

It might be if something comes the other way unexpectedly ....

3008 - Being overtook whilst manoeuvring - 72 dudes

... Being half in one lane and half in the overtaking lane is not desirable. The guy behind would have to give way and abort his overtake ...

It might be if something comes the other way unexpectedly ....

Hopefully not, on a dual carriageway.

3008 - Being overtook whilst manoeuvring - Bromptonaut

This scenario is another reason to overtake cyclists as though they were a car. That way you'd have occupied all of the offside lane and stopped the other car from trying what was probably a stupid opportunistic pass.

Whether he could have slowed down without risk to your rear I don't know but if he ran into you as you suggest I think the blame would be very hard for him to avoid.

The cyclist however is your responsibility.

Only way either of those propositions might change would be if you and he broadsided each other.

3008 - Being overtook whilst manoeuvring - Andrew-T

... Being half in one lane and half in the overtaking lane is not desirable. The guy behind would have to give way and abort his overtake ...

It might be if something comes the other way unexpectedly ....

Hopefully not, on a dual carriageway.

Very true .... :-) but it has happened ....