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Ford Mustang - Hands free driving - mcb100
Ford have announced today that they’ve been given permission to offer hands free motorway driving in their Mustang.
Instead of the current situation whereby the car with a self steer function gets you to put your hands back on the wheel after a few seconds, now it’ll use existing driver awareness cameras to monitor the driver and permit hands off on motorways.
So as long as it sees you paying attention it’ll self steer and adapt speed via adaptive cruise control.
I don’t think it’s a massive leap in technology, but the first time it’s been government permitted on UK roads.
Ford Mustang - Hands free driving - madf

So I can doze/sleep and am safe as long as my hands are on the wheel?

Ford Mustang - Hands free driving - Gerry Sanderson

i have only one word for this

MADNESS

dvd

Ford Mustang - Hands free driving - catsdad

It can’t change lanes, only works on motorways and it constantly monitors the “driver’s” eyes to ensure they are watching the road. It then sounds alerts if they aren’t concentrating on the road.

it doesn’t sound much different from existing Tesla technology. In fact it’s probably more restrictive. It gives Ford a lot of free publicity though.

Ford Mustang - Hands free driving - gkb40

Since the driver is not permitted to use their mobile, fall asleep or conduct any activity that takes attention away from the road, what can you do apart from twiddle your thumbs?

Ford Mustang - Hands free driving - Adampr

Since the driver is not permitted to use their mobile, fall asleep or conduct any activity that takes attention away from the road, what can you do apart from twiddle your thumbs?

Hopefully, eventually, along with others, demonstrate that the technology works so that we can start thinking about actual self-driving cars.

Ford Mustang - Hands free driving - elekie&a/c doctor
Back seat driver , springs to mind .
Ford Mustang - Hands free driving - Andrew-T

So I can doze/sleep and am safe as long as my hands are on the wheel?

No, the system monitors your eye function, so you have to copy the royals and learn to doze with your eyes open - and only as long as the markers the system requires remain detectable on the motorways where it operates. I wonder about whether every driver will remember to switch back to 'conventional' mode when leaving the motorway ... :-(

Ford Mustang - Hands free driving - madf

I can see some disase

Humans have the ability to screw up any man made system (and a few others as well)

Ford Mustang - Hands free driving - sammy1

I wonder if AI or that chatbot thing is intelligent enough to advise against using this. May be the GOV might have got a second opinion. Still at the moment Mustangs are few and far between nut I dread Focus or Pumas having this So it sounds a warning if you are distracted by the blond in her open convertible how very reassuring

Ford Mustang - Hands free driving - movilogo

So net benefit is that you may be able to rest one hand on armrest.

That's only advantage I see compared to current smart cruise control with lane assist feature

Ford Mustang - Hands free driving - mcb100
I tend to find, when I’m using a ‘self steer’ system, that if I’m letting the car follow its lane, my grip on the wheel is light enough for the car not to recognise I’m there. So, every now and again, I have to give the wheel a slight waggle to let it know I’m still awake…
It’ll now know I’m still there by tracking eye movements.
Ford Mustang - Hands free driving - sammy1
I tend to find, when I’m using a ‘self steer’ system, that if I’m letting the car follow its lane, my grip on the wheel is light enough for the car not to recognise I’m there. So, every now and again, I have to give the wheel a slight waggle to let it know I’m still awake… It’ll now know I’m still there by tracking eye movements.

What happens in these self steering cars when it sends you down a pot hole, I expect your eyes almost jump out of your head! I don't want to be paying for this tech when I buy a car, all I want is to drive it while there is still something to satisfy a bit of driving skill.

Ford Mustang - Hands free driving - Bolt
I tend to find, when I’m using a ‘self steer’ system, that if I’m letting the car follow its lane, my grip on the wheel is light enough for the car not to recognise I’m there. So, every now and again, I have to give the wheel a slight waggle to let it know I’m still awake… It’ll now know I’m still there by tracking eye movements.

What happens in these self steering cars when it sends you down a pot hole, I expect your eyes almost jump out of your head! I don't want to be paying for this tech when I buy a car, all I want is to drive it while there is still something to satisfy a bit of driving skill.

Odd, I thought Ford were years behind in this tech as the software is harder to put together than they first expected, and Alphabet and Google were ahead in this game.

Tesla found it so hard they designed there own Super Computer chip, so AI could train/program their own system which is still in the making

so how ford have got this far I don`t know?

Ford Mustang - Hands free driving - alan1302
and Alphabet and Google were ahead in this game.

Tesla found it so hard they designed there own Super Computer chip, so AI could train/program their own system which is still in the making

so how ford have got this far I don`t know?

Alphabet and Google are the same - Alphabet is the main holding compnay and Goole one of the brands.

How have Ford got this far - money and hard work - like most things.

Ford Mustang - Hands free driving - Bolt

Alphabet and Google are the same - Alphabet is the main holding compnay and Goole one of the brands.

If I had just mentioned Google you would have corrected on that!

Ford are still way behind on the tech and software.....

Ford Mustang - Hands free driving - alan1302

Alphabet and Google are the same - Alphabet is the main holding compnay and Goole one of the brands.

If I had just mentioned Google you would have corrected on that!

Ford are still way behind on the tech and software.....

I would not have corrected it as there would be nothing to correct!

Ford Mustang - Hands free driving - mcb100
‘ What happens in these self steering cars when it sends you down a pot hole, I expect your eyes almost jump out of your head! I don't want to be paying for this tech when I buy a car, all I want is to drive it while there is still something to satisfy a bit of driving skill.’

Motorways and faster single & dual carriageways only, which, thankfully, are rather more free of potholes.
And I use eyesight (plus varifocals) to ensure it doesn’t ‘send me down a pothole’.
Ford Mustang - Hands free driving - gordonbennet

I'm with Gerry Sanderson, the lunatics are out of control

Ford Mustang - Hands free driving - mcb100
‘so how ford have got this far I don`t know?’

It’s all existing technology that just about everyone uses, the difference being that Ford have been the first to gain government approval.
Any car with adaptive cruise control and active lane centring has had the ability to do it all day for years, but they’ve had to disable the steering assistance if no hands were detected on the wheel.
It’s the legislation that’s new, not the technology.
Ford Mustang - Hands free driving - sammy1

System costs £17.99 a month to rent off Ford from what I just read in a review, Would you honestly trust such a system if the unexpected happened and a split second decision meant you had to go right or left to avoid an accident. Braking alone would not necessarily get you out of trouble. Can an "" intelligent "" car really react the best way in all situations? All very well cruising down a motorway on active cruise until the unexpected happens. What are you gong to do with you hands in any case!!!

Ford Mustang - Hands free driving - mcb100
We’re years off a car having to make decisions beyond holding a constant speed and keeping itself in the middle of a lane. Some will make a lane change once you’ve indicated an intention to do so, but you’d have overtaken and moved back in by the time the car has it sorted out.
For everything else we’re still dependent on the inconsistent mass of DNA in the driver’s seat.
This is not self driving, this is an aid and you choose whether or not to use it.
Ford Mustang - Hands free driving - Terry W

As already noted this is really just a change in legislation to legalise the use of technology that has been around for several years.

Car manufacturers already have tech far in advance of this under development and test under controlled conditions.

The only question is how quickly this is refined and legalised, not whether it will happen. Most accidents are driver error - technology will ultimately out perform flesh and blood.

Ford Mustang - Hands free driving - Ethan Edwards

Self driving cars eh? Will we see a return of dashboard spirits dispensers too? Have a few whiskies let the car whisk you home. Progress..I guess.

Ford Mustang - Hands free driving - Engineer Andy
Ford have announced today that they’ve been given permission to offer hands free motorway driving in their Mustang. Instead of the current situation whereby the car with a self steer function gets you to put your hands back on the wheel after a few seconds, now it’ll use existing driver awareness cameras to monitor the driver and permit hands off on motorways. So as long as it sees you paying attention it’ll self steer and adapt speed via adaptive cruise control. I don’t think it’s a massive leap in technology, but the first time it’s been government permitted on UK roads.

Tesla - behold - the autopilot system (well, except in the EU, where the term is banned because it most certainly is NOT a self-drive vehicle system).

Ford - hold my beer. Well, the driver seems to be able to now, as they don't have to steer any more, at least on motorways.

I've seen the viral videos of Teslas not spotting carboard cutouts of kids and animals in the road and plowing straight through them.

This is gonna end well. Not.

Ford Mustang - Hands free driving - madf

It is unlikely self driving cars will ever be able to cope with single track country roads with mud, passing spaces and lack of verges.. and no road markings. .not forgetting the 4x4s which are as wide as the road and driven by drivers as thick as the surrounding trees,

If not, what is the point?

Ford Mustang - Hands free driving - Ian_SW

I wonder how the system acts when it's no longer able to operate, because of unclear white lines etc. and the driver doesn't take hold of the steering wheel quickly enough. From its perspective the only safe thing to do would be to stop the car, but that's not exactly safe when looking at the impact on the motorway overall.

Also, as it monitors drivers eye movements, it's probably not going to work when the driver is wearing sunglasses.

I don't think I'll bother with paying £20 a month subscription just to be able to rest my hands on my knees instead of holding the steering wheel....

Ford Mustang - Hands free driving - Terry W

It is unlikely self driving cars will ever be able to cope with single track country roads with mud, passing spaces and lack of verges.. and no road markings. .not forgetting the 4x4s which are as wide as the road and driven by drivers as thick as the surrounding trees,

They have the potential to be far better than flesh and blood.

Rather than the incompetent who are unable to reverse or judge the width of their car, systems will ultimately allow autonomous vehicles to communicate when entering a section of narrow road and prioritise right of way.

If they meet unexpectedly (eg: car/tractor emerging from field) they will have registered the closest passing place and reverse accordingly.

All this is possible in time with improved mapping - which could be updated using AVs.

Ford Mustang - Hands free driving - Engineer Andy

I wonder how the system acts when it's no longer able to operate, because of unclear white lines etc. and the driver doesn't take hold of the steering wheel quickly enough. From its perspective the only safe thing to do would be to stop the car, but that's not exactly safe when looking at the impact on the motorway overall.

Also, as it monitors drivers eye movements, it's probably not going to work when the driver is wearing sunglasses.

I don't think I'll bother with paying £20 a month subscription just to be able to rest my hands on my knees instead of holding the steering wheel....

I wonder what happens if the subscription runs out when you're doing 70 on the motorway? Hopefully they've got a software thingy that doesn't result in the steering locking up or suchlike.

Ford Mustang - Hands free driving - Engineer Andy

It is unlikely self driving cars will ever be able to cope with single track country roads with mud, passing spaces and lack of verges.. and no road markings. .not forgetting the 4x4s which are as wide as the road and driven by drivers as thick as the surrounding trees,

If not, what is the point?

Indeed - I wonder what would happen if both cars are of that type - a Mexican standoff or one decides to burst through a farm gate and take 'the scenic route'? Maybe if both could communicate with one another they could toss a virtual coin to decide which backs up to the nearest viable passing place, unless both are equidistant (remember the donkey whose equidistant from food test?).

K.I.T.T. they are not.

Ford Mustang - Hands free driving - Bolt

I've seen the viral videos of Teslas not spotting carboard cutouts of kids and animals in the road and plowing straight through them.

I doubt you`ve seen the full system, it`s as yet still being worked on as they gather information from all cars that are being driven on the road, its more complicated than made out and will be years away from being used.

but as mentioned autopilot is not named correctly, giving the impression it is autopilot, poor judgment on Teslas part imo