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New motorway speed limit - sammy1

20mph speed limit zones to be introduced on the M4 (msn.com)

Getting beyond a joke now! 50 is bad enough!!!

New motorway speed limit - Xileno

Yes a good one.

Love the names of the motorists mentioned.

New motorway speed limit - Adampr

Have you read the article?

New motorway speed limit - FP

"20mph speed limit zones to be introduced on the M4 (msn.com)

Getting beyond a joke now! 50 is bad enough!!!"

You have noticed today's date, I assume?

New motorway speed limit - sammy1

Of course that's why I put it on here. I think its a good one and I admit it had me spitting my breakfast before I twigged. I use the M4 with its crazy 50 a lot. 50 is fine in the rush hour but 24 hours ridiculous but the Welsh Gov. oops politics will not build an alternative to avoid the tunnels which are the real problem. Road is out of date and pollution is the reason given for the speed limit. What I fail to understand and this is true for the rest of the UK is why houses are still being built right next to our major roads. Pollution problem solved with EVs? but this will take 20 years and won't solve traffic volumes on the M$

New motorway speed limit - Andrew-T

... the Welsh Gov. ... will not build an alternative to avoid the tunnels which are the real problem. Road is out of date and pollution is the reason given for the speed limit.

If you are referring to the Newport tunnels, maybe the residents of that town would have something to say about any serious 'improvement' of the M4 there.

New motorway speed limit - sammy1

... the Welsh Gov. ... will not build an alternative to avoid the tunnels which are the real problem. Road is out of date and pollution is the reason given for the speed limit.

If you are referring to the Newport tunnels, maybe the residents of that town would have something to say about any serious 'improvement' of the M4 there.

The M4 is a joke through South Wales. There are regular queues back to the Second Severn Bridge now called The Prince of Wales Bridge to theses tunnels, 3lanes into 2 won't go! and the same going out of Wales to the tunnels a regular 10miles or so both ways.. A new route was mapped out and presented to the public . Property was bought out along the route and the whole thing cost millions but was shelved by WG largely due to pollution or so they say.. The M4 Wales is a disaster for business and with a new tourist tax for Wales won wonders what will happen to the economy. The pollution must increase with regular queuing so the only solution for most is the route that was mapped out.by passing the tunnels and most of the population affected.

New motorway speed limit - FP

"Of course that's why I put it on here. I think its a good one and I admit it had me spitting my breakfast before I twigged."

Oh dear.

New motorway speed limit - Heidfirst

Of course that's why I put it on here. I think its a good one and I admit it had me spitting my breakfast before I twigged. I use the M4 with its crazy 50 a lot. 50 is fine in the rush hour but 24 hours ridiculous but the Welsh Gov. oops politics will not build an alternative to avoid the tunnels which are the real problem. Road is out of date and pollution is the reason given for the speed limit. What I fail to understand and this is true for the rest of the UK is why houses are still being built right next to our major roads. Pollution problem solved with EVs? but this will take 20 years and won't solve traffic volumes on the M$

I wonder if they got the idea from www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glasgow-news/glasgow-m8...2 ?

New motorway speed limit - sammy1

I wonder what causes the most pollution queuing travelling at 30 or 50 or 70 . The M42 through south Birmingham with variable limits according to traffic volume is a good solution?

New motorway speed limit - gordonbennet

The problem with the Newport section of M4 is the same problem as found in so many other places, the standard of driving is generally appalling, lane hogging, inability to maintain progress, lane discipline.

As for overcrowding of the roads in general, hardly suprising, the country's road network was never imagined to have to cope with the overcrowding of the island, get used to it, going to get much worse.

New motorway speed limit - alan1302

As for overcrowding of the roads in general, hardly suprising, the country's road network was never imagined to have to cope with the overcrowding of the island, get used to it, going to get much worse.

Always strange how people say the UK is an awful place yet people keen to come here.

New motorway speed limit - Andrew-T

The problem with the Newport section of M4 is the same problem as found in so many other places, the standard of driving is generally appalling, lane hogging, inability to maintain progress, lane discipline.

One problem with the Newport section is that it is a hilly area - the reason for the tunnels, which are followed by a long climb up another hill, which wagons don't enjoy, and which causes extra pollution. Plus the fact that much of the hillside is inhabited, making any bypass long and/or expensive.

New motorway speed limit - John F

Like millions of others, I frequently drive up and down the M1 between the Midlands and the M25. I wonder if anyone has ever recently accomplished this, day or night, without being slowed by a sub 70mph limit along the way? There always seems to be daytime congestion, or night-tme road repairs. Transient stoppages due to RTCs are ever more frequent. Long gone are the pre-camera days of relaxed cruising at well above 70 at quiet clear times; a pleasure only available in Germany nowadays, I think.

New motorway speed limit - HGV ~ P Valentine

How is everyone going on ev going to work with charging points in Housing estates where a single block will hold 180 flats, and there are 8 blocks or so in them ?

New motorway speed limit - Bromptonaut

How is everyone going on ev going to work with charging points in Housing estates where a single block will hold 180 flats, and there are 8 blocks or so in them ?

By filling up somewhere else.

Just like they do now.

Or, looking another way, where do they park their cars? Could they be charged there?

New motorway speed limit - Metropolis.
Cant see why we need speed limits on motorways, Germany does just fine
New motorway speed limit - RT

Most of the Autobahn network has speed limits - only relatively small parts are unrestricted.

Drivers in the UK aren't nearly discplined enough to cope with unrestricted roads.

New motorway speed limit - Metropolis.
www.autoexpress.co.uk/tips-advice/356727/driving-a...p

Auto express reckons about half.

I cant agree that German drivers are somehow more disciplined. Might be a case of needing a gradual increase in speed limit here rather than all at once as no doubt there would be excitement at the chance to put your foot down without the nanny state putting you on the naughty step.
New motorway speed limit - Andrew-T
Can't see why we need speed limits on motorways.

If so, I think you may be being a little obtuse. A reasonable speed limit must have some deterrent effect on many daft drivers who would otherwise behave (more) irresponsibly.

Plus there is plenty of evidence that on congested roads, lowering the permitted speed has a positive effect on overall traffic flow. Presumably if congested traffic were permitted to drive faster, congestion night be more common ?

New motorway speed limit - bazza

Actually most of the German autobahn is speed restricted, only certain areas are marked as de restricted. On the times when I've driven there, I've found the standard of driving to be very high indeed, far better than UK or indeed any other European countries I've travelled through. Derestricting our motorways would result in absolute chaos!

New motorway speed limit - Manatee

We used some German autobahns last year including a couple of unrestricted sections. There were indeed cars travelling well in excess of 100mph, I would guess typically at around 120-130, with a smaller number going significantly faster. Generally, behaviour was predictable and I wouldn't say I was terrified, but I was certainly conscious of the potential for a very severe accident.

Driving standards may well be high, but German motorways have around twice the death rate of British ones, and within that the risk is about 25% higher on the unrestricted ones compared with the restricted ones. So I don't think there is much likelihood that the UK NSL will be increased.

New motorway speed limit - Andrew-T

We used some German autobahns last year including a couple of unrestricted sections. There were indeed cars travelling well in excess of 100mph, I would guess typically at around 120-130, with a smaller number going significantly faster. Generally, behaviour was predictable and I wouldn't say I was terrified, but I was certainly conscious of the potential for a very severe accident..

I remember driving on an autobahn somewhere in NW Germany many years ago, being overtaken at high speed by (I think) an Astra which suffered a sudden blowout about 100 yards ahead. Luckily the driver controlled the car without difficulty.