Tessla - Tesla Y SUVs have 'zero reparability'

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Fri 24 Mar 2023 08:48
Tessla - Tesla Y SUVs have 'zero reparability' - HGV ~ P Valentine

Electric cars with minor battery damage are being WRITTEN OFF because there is no way of repairing them, report claims (msn.com)

More evidence that electric is a bad idea.

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Fri 24 Mar 2023 08:58
Tessla - Tesla Y SUVs have 'zero reparability' - Xileno

More evidence of poor journalism to me. As Edmund King states, the pictures of those cars in the article would suggest they would be written off whatever their method of propulsion. Also the comment about the insurance companies writing-off to prevent future liabilities - presumably the same concerns some Police forces have had regarding the BMWs they've deliberately wrecked before going to auction.

Having said that there will always be some problems when making transitions but there's plenty of scope for commercially-minded companies to step in here and provide repair services.

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Fri 24 Mar 2023 09:28
Tessla - Tesla Y SUVs have 'zero reparability' - Sofa Spud

Has echoes of what people used to say about the Ford Sierra, on which the whole body-side from the A-pillar back was a single steel pressing. What would happen if the car had a minor rear-end shunt? Would the whole body-side need to be replaced of was it time to resort to a hammer and filler? Or would a skilled panel be needed to make a repair section by hand and eye? That didn't stop the Sierra being a big success and now lots of cars are made that way.

Edited by Sofa Spud on 24/03/2023 at 09:39

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Fri 24 Mar 2023 10:17
Tessla - Tesla Y SUVs have 'zero reparability' - HGV ~ P Valentine

We are stuck with them we know the gov are a runaway train with no driver once they get an idea in their scopes.

For me there was 2 interesting points ..

1 Companies withholding battery information to be able to program the new batteries.

2 The battery being part of the frame of the car ( not just a panel ), If that is true then it will fall under Cat A/B or S. Cat S would make it uneconomical to repair. I do not know enough about electric cars so rely on the opinion of those in the trade to learn from.

  • Cat A – Car has suffered severe structural damage and cannot be repaired
  • Cat B – Car cannot be repaired, but it can be stripped for parts to use on other cars
  • Cat S – Structural damage that can be repaired

Edited by HGV ~ P Valentine on 24/03/2023 at 10:17

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Fri 24 Mar 2023 11:54
Tessla - Tesla Y SUVs have 'zero reparability' - Ethan Edwards

Article is mistaken. Ev batteries are valuable and most definitely do NOT go into landfills. Either re used on other EVs or repurposed as home energy storage or recycled. Lithium is highly recycled.

I will personally offer to receive all the EV batteries that you want to send to landfill. It'll make me obscenely wealthy.

Edited by Ethan Edwards on 24/03/2023 at 11:54

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Fri 24 Mar 2023 13:39
Tessla - Tesla Y SUVs have 'zero reparability' - Chris M

From the linked article:

"Synetiq, the UK's largest salvage company, head of operations Michael Hill said over the last 12 months the number of EVs in the isolation bay – where they must be checked to avoid fire risk - at the firm's Doncaster yard has soared, from perhaps a dozen every three days to up to 20 per day.

"We've seen a really big shift and it's across all manufacturers," Hill said.

The UK currently has no EV battery recycling facilities, so Synetiq has to remove the batteries from written-off cars and store them in containers. Hill estimated at least 95% of the cells in the hundreds of EV battery packs - and thousands of hybrid battery packs - Synetiq has stored at Doncaster are undamaged and should be reused."

So we're not there yet.

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Fri 24 Mar 2023 14:55
Tessla - Tesla Y SUVs have 'zero reparability' - badbusdriver

The UK currently has no EV battery recycling facilities, so Synetiq has to remove the batteries from written-off cars and store them in containers. Hill estimated at least 95% of the cells in the hundreds of EV battery packs - and thousands of hybrid battery packs - Synetiq has stored at Doncaster are undamaged and should be reused."

We may not have any EV battery recycling facilities here but there are on the continent, including the Netherlands. So I don't see why there is any need for large quantities of them to be stored in the UK?.

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Sat 25 Mar 2023 02:54
Tessla - Tesla Y SUVs have 'zero reparability' - edlithgow

  • Cat A – Car has suffered severe structural damage and cannot be repaired
  • Cat B – Car cannot be repaired, but it can be stripped for parts to use on other cars
  • Cat S – Structural damage that can be repaired

A and B wouldn't seem to normally mutually exclusive, unless it burned and/or fell in the sea.

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Sat 25 Mar 2023 02:56
Tessla - Tesla Y SUVs have 'zero reparability' - edlithgow

Has echoes of what people used to say about the Ford Sierra, on which the whole body-side from the A-pillar back was a single steel pressing. What would happen if the car had a minor rear-end shunt? Would the whole body-side need to be replaced of was it time to resort to a hammer and filler? Or would a skilled panel be needed to make a repair section by hand and eye? That didn't stop the Sierra being a big success and now lots of cars are made that way.

Which doesnt actually address any of the questions posed, or make it a Good Idea.

Bad Ideas are very popular.

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Fri 24 Mar 2023 16:12
Tessla - Tesla Y SUVs have 'zero reparability' - FP

"Electric cars with minor battery damage are being WRITTEN OFF because there is no way of repairing them, report claims (msn.com)

More evidence that electric is a bad idea."

Whatever is happening with Tesla, this sort of overblown claim is completely illogical. There is no reason why EV design cannot incorporate repairable batteries.

I do not believe that it is currently impossible to repair the battery of every single design of EV.

For example, my trusted indy has found out how to repair Toyota Prius batteries by locating and swapping out individual failed cells.

Edited by FP on 24/03/2023 at 16:14

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Fri 24 Mar 2023 17:14
Tessla - Tesla Y SUVs have 'zero reparability' - Crickleymal

I'm sure I've seen on YouTube videos of people repairing Tesla batteries which Tesla themselves said were unrepairable and would have to be replaced.

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Fri 24 Mar 2023 17:30
Tessla - Tesla Y SUVs have 'zero reparability' - mcb100
If anyone wants to see what an EV battery looks like, I came across a Polestar 2 that had its battery pack removed. The rest of the car is up on the lift.
The battery is c550kg in weight.

1drv.ms/f/s!AuMkRafLnOYXg41psHAdDbmPE16Jlg
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Fri 24 Mar 2023 19:55
Tessla - Tesla Y SUVs have 'zero reparability' - paul 1963
If anyone wants to see what an EV battery looks like, I came across a Polestar 2 that had its battery pack removed. The rest of the car is up on the lift. The battery is c550kg in weight. 1drv.ms/f/s!AuMkRafLnOYXg41psHAdDbmPE16Jlg

Very interesting mcb, I've seen a tesla pack, very similar.

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Sat 25 Mar 2023 03:01
Tessla - Tesla Y SUVs have 'zero reparability' - edlithgow

Electric cars with minor battery damage are being WRITTEN OFF because there is no way of repairing them, report claims (msn.com)

More evidence that electric is a bad idea.

Doesn't sound like evidence for anything of the kind.

It sounds like evidence that designing for repairability isn't an industry priority.

This is not exactly news, and not restricted, or inherent, to electric vehicles.

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