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3year old Vauxhall versus 6 year alternative brand - Warning

I would looking at a particular Vauxhall, it was 3 years old, low mileage, small engine with turbo. The price of it was the same as a 6 year old equivalent from alternative Japanese brands (and it has higher mileage). Honest John rate the Vauxhall Insignia at 3/5

Should I got for Vauxhall? I usually end up with a Japanese, as I worry a about high garage bills and reliability.

I do low mileage. About 6K per year. I want a car which is fun to drive on the country road, capable in the city and comfortable on the motorway.

Edited by Warning on 16/01/2023 at 14:54

3year old Vauxhall versus 6 year alternative brand - Adampr

Drive both and see which you prefer. There no point buying something 'with your head' if you don't like it.

3year old Vauxhall versus 6 year alternative brand - badbusdriver

I would looking at a particular Vauxhall, it was 3 years old, low mileage, small engine with turbo. The price of it was the same as a 6 year old equivalent from alternative Japanese brands (and it has higher mileage).

Why so vague?

3year old Vauxhall versus 6 year alternative brand - skidpan

Why so vague?

Perhaps the OP is embarrassed to admit he likes the Insignia.

3year old Vauxhall versus 6 year alternative brand - badbusdriver

Why so vague?

Perhaps the OP is embarrassed to admit he likes the Insignia.

My assumption is that the Vauxhall engine in question is the 1.0 turbo which would point to an Astra or Corsa, but it could also be something using the 1.4 turbo, which I believe would include the Insignia(?).

But difficult to answer the question without knowing which Vauxhall the OP is considering (or at least which engine because AFAIK the 1.0 and 1.4 are unrelated), along with which older n/a Japanese equivalent?.

3year old Vauxhall versus 6 year alternative brand - skidpan

Why so vague?

Perhaps the OP is embarrassed to admit he likes the Insignia.

My assumption is that the Vauxhall engine in question is the 1.0 turbo which would point to an Astra or Corsa, but it could also be something using the 1.4 turbo, which I believe would include the Insignia(?)

My assumption was based on the simple fact the OP named the Insignia in his first post. No mention is made of the Astra or Corsa.

So why would he mention the Insignia if he had looked at a Corsa or Astra?

3year old Vauxhall versus 6 year alternative brand - badbusdriver

Why so vague?

Perhaps the OP is embarrassed to admit he likes the Insignia.

My assumption is that the Vauxhall engine in question is the 1.0 turbo which would point to an Astra or Corsa, but it could also be something using the 1.4 turbo, which I believe would include the Insignia(?)

My assumption was based on the simple fact the OP named the Insignia in his first post. No mention is made of the Astra or Corsa.

So why would he mention the Insignia if he had looked at a Corsa or Astra?

It just seemed an odd way to phrase it, "a particular Vauxhall". I wondered if the subsequent mention of the Insignia was just as an example of Vauxhall in general (its been a long day!).

3year old Vauxhall versus 6 year alternative brand - Warning

It was open to Insignia and also Zafira and other models....

I was after a hatchback, but having to consider estates due to not many brands making family hatchbacks. Choices are limited.

The alternative are the Mazda 6 estate (they no longer make hatchback). Prices are around £16k. Civic tourer (not many around), Avensis estate (reminds of a taxi car). Mondeo etc.....

3year old Vauxhall versus 6 year alternative brand - Will deBeast

I... Civic tourer (not many around),...

There wasn't much choice of civic tourers when we bought in 2018. I hope the scarcity helps when I come to sell it in the summer! (waiting for a new Toyota estate to arrive).

3year old Vauxhall versus 6 year alternative brand - Terry W

Over the last 20 years I have driven the generally very mundane to 100k+ mileages - Vectra, Mondeo, Octavia and now Peugeot 308.

My aggregate mileage in that time is +/- 350k. I have spent in total over 20 years no more than £500 on non-service items.

I attribute this mainly to being fairly light-footed - maintaining smooth progress, not challenging engine, gearbox, suspension and brakes. Routine servicing is done on time.

Japanese motors do have a generally very good reputation for reliability but there is no reliability gulf with the ordinary, albeit with one or two exceptions (Jeep, Land Rover).

Personally I would buy less than 3 years old every time to take advantage of remaining warranty. An older higher mileage car is going to be inherently less reliable. Drive what makes you happy, not the doubtful promise of hassle free ownersh

3year old Vauxhall versus 6 year alternative brand - Heidfirst

Personally I would buy less than 3 years old every time to take advantage of remaining warranty. An older higher mileage car is going to be inherently less reliable. Drive what makes you happy, not the doubtful promise of hassle free ownersh

Depending upon mileage & servicing, a Toyota can be in warranty for 10 years ...

An Insignia is going to be more enjoyable to drive than an Avensis but I would take a 1.8 naturally aspirated over a small turbo for reliability.

3year old Vauxhall versus 6 year alternative brand - Big John

Personally I would buy less than 3 years old every time to take advantage of remaining warranty. An older higher mileage car is going to be inherently less reliable. Drive what makes you happy, not the doubtful promise of hassle free ownersh

That's been my long term strategy for decades - the trouble is with the car market being currently somewhat weird/inflated (Covid, chip shortage etc) prices are all over the place. Some nearly used prices have been higher than new due to manufacturing / supply delays.

Found a 2016 Octavia back in 2019 for my son, it'd just had the first MOT - the very same 2016 model of car generally costs more now in 2023 despite the extra age / mileage - MAD!!

There might be a little evidence that things may be stabilising - we'll see. I normally keep a car for a decade and I bought my last 2014 Superb in 2015 so two years until my usual swap time!

Re the original post I always prefer a newer car with higher mileage compared to an older car with lower mileage. Re the latter time decays components and there is a greater risk of clocking! Around three/four ish years ago many petrol direct injection cars started getting GPFs (Gasoline Particulate Filters) - might be worth avoiding early implementations of this technology.

Edited by Big John on 17/01/2023 at 22:39

3year old Vauxhall versus 6 year alternative brand - daveyK_UK
The newer shape insignia is more reliable than the previous shape.

However it’s still a GM product and as such you can expect issues.

The newer shape is a 1.5 petrol turbo, the older shape used the 1.4 turbo.

The 1.4 petrol turbo engine was one of the more reliable parts of the car, the rest of it was junk.
There isn’t a lot of space inside an Insignia despite its large dimensions

The newer Insignia is superior in every way
3year old Vauxhall versus 6 year alternative brand - Engineer Andy

Personally I would buy less than 3 years old every time to take advantage of remaining warranty. An older higher mileage car is going to be inherently less reliable. Drive what makes you happy, not the doubtful promise of hassle free ownersh

That's been my long term strategy for decades - the trouble is with the car market being currently somewhat weird/inflated (Covid, chip shortage etc) prices are all over the place. Some nearly used prices have been higher than new due to manufacturing / supply delays.

Found a 2016 Octavia back in 2019 for my son, it'd just had the first MOT - the very same 2016 model of car generally costs more now in 2023 despite the extra age / mileage - MAD!!

There might be a little evidence that things may be stabilising - we'll see. I normally keep a car for a decade and I bought my last 2014 Superb in 2015 so two years until my usual swap time!

I thin that the first signs are coming, despite the much-projected (including by yours truly) big recession not arriving - for the moment. House price drops have already started though, which is normally a sign of bad things to come down the track.

I suspect the start of the softening of second-hand car prices has more to do with the chip shortage and other pandemic-response-related logistical issues starting to wane to a degree.

Re the original post I always prefer a newer car with higher mileage compared to an older car with lower mileage. Re the latter time decays components and there is a greater risk of clocking! Around three/four ish years ago many petrol direct injection cars started getting GPFs (Gasoline Particulate Filters) - might be worth avoiding early implementations of this technology.

I suppose it depends on what car you're buying, from whom and its history. If you are buying from a main dealer and it's a one-owner only car they maintained, there's less likelihood that it'll be clocked. Similarly if - for older cars like mine - you know the owner (and trust them) and they've been the sole owner since new and who has a full, documented history.

You obviously would have to take the person at their word for a low mileage (relative to age) car if, sich as for myself, 90% of the mileage is not short trips from cold and thus no additional wear would've taken place.

I agree that some cars, say a 'granmobile' that does a once/twice a week trip to the shops in town is often not always the best buy unless that person has gone over and beyond as regards its maintenance. My dad's 15yo Fiesta 1.25 appears to have done quite well generally despite it mostly being used in that way - its first battery lasted 12 years!

I would say that many 'older' cars can be very dependable, especially if they are the lower-specced ones with less gizmos and less complex engine designs to go wrong, especially with regard to emissions. As such, petrol engined cars are normally a better buy (risk-wise) than a diesel if they are low mileage.

I agree with other posters that it's no use buying something that's reliable if you don't like how it drives or on the practicality / running costs front. Best to narrow down the type of car you want first, then choose from what's on offer of that type.

3year old Vauxhall versus 6 year alternative brand - John F

At such a low annual mileage, I think it makes more sense to buy the younger car with the higher mileage and keep it indefinitely. I used to buy for myself 4yr old upmarket high milers with up to 80,000 on the clock and spend the next ten years putting only another 50,000 miles on them. That minimises depreciation loss. If cared for, most cars should make it to 15-20yrs and 150,000 -200,000 miles without big bills. Ours always have.

3year old Vauxhall versus 6 year alternative brand - Big John

At such a low annual mileage, I think it makes more sense to buy the younger car with the higher mileage and keep it indefinitely. I used to buy for myself 4yr old upmarket high milers with up to 80,000 on the clock and spend the next ten years putting only another 50,000 miles on them..

That's what I did for my Dad when he retired in 88 - I found him an 18 month old 86 Volvo 740 Estate 2.3 but with 88k miles on the clock! As my Dad only did a low annual mileage it did him well until 2001 when he decided to buy a new Octavia (as did I) - there were some fab offers on back then.

Now I'm retired I might have to do the same - when the used market settles down somewhat!

Edited by Big John on 18/01/2023 at 09:35

3year old Vauxhall versus 6 year alternative brand - barney100

My daughter has a 2010 Insignia estate and it's been fine except for the usual wear and tear stuff.