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2017 Honda Civic - Knocking Noise Turning Steering Wheel at Low Speed - brambobb

I have recently started hearing a knocking noise, apparently through the steering wheel, which is particularly noticeable when I am putting the car into my garage, The garage is at 90 degrees to my drive so the manoeuvre has to be done at low speed. The steering seems normal otherwise and the noise is not apparent at normal running speed.

Does anyone know if this is something that is a known issue on the Civic please, and can anyone suggest what the problem may be?

I contacted a local garage to ask them to have a look but they wanted to charge me £55 to run a diagnostic test, which seemed strange to me as surely this is likely to be a mechanical rather than an electronic issue

The car is one of the last to be registered of the Mark 9 (I think) Civic.

Thanks

2017 Honda Civic - Knocking Noise Turning Steering Wheel at Low Speed - Andrew-T

Does this only happen on full lock ?

2017 Honda Civic - Knocking Noise Turning Steering Wheel at Low Speed - brambobb

It happens whenever I turn the steering wheel and move (both forward and reverse) at low speed, not just on full lock.

2017 Honda Civic - Knocking Noise Turning Steering Wheel at Low Speed - bathtub tom

If this only happens when the car's moving, it could be tyre scub. If, however it happens when the car's stationary................................................................................

2017 Honda Civic - Knocking Noise Turning Steering Wheel at Low Speed - Crickleymal

Could be CV joints?

2017 Honda Civic - Knocking Noise Turning Steering Wheel at Low Speed - Adampr

Check your steering tie rods.

2017 Honda Civic - Knocking Noise Turning Steering Wheel at Low Speed - Andrew-T

I guess this car has electric PAS, so might the problem be there ?

2017 Honda Civic - Knocking Noise Turning Steering Wheel at Low Speed - Oli rag

Sounds like you have a cv joint worn. If it is this, it should be worse turning one way than the other.

2017 Honda Civic - Knocking Noise Turning Steering Wheel at Low Speed - brambobb

Thanks to everyone for their suggestions.

I will probably have to take it in to be checked over. The question is whether I should take it to the main dealer or try to find an indy. Unfortunately I cannot find any exclusively Honda indy in my area so I may have to bite the bullet and go to the dealership.

Can anyone speculate whether this is likely to be a very expensive job? The car has just passed its MOT with no advisories but I suppose that this issue is not included in the things tested

2017 Honda Civic - Knocking Noise Turning Steering Wheel at Low Speed - Adampr

Assuming it's something worn in the suspension or CV joints, it shouldn't be tremendously expensive, but it will be in the hundreds.

Personally, I probably wouldn't take it to Honda or a Honda specialist, just the nearest good garage. If it's a straightforward mechanical issue, it doesn't need any special knowledge or tools.

It might be worth checking your registration for Honda recalls beforehand - just because this seems to be quite common.

2017 Honda Civic - Knocking Noise Turning Steering Wheel at Low Speed - brambobb

Thanks for the useful suggestion about recalls even though, according to Honda UK, there are no outstanding recalls on my car.

Having worked as a delivery and collections driver for a Honda dealership for seven years up to the time of the pandemic I can confirm that your comment about their ability to resolve mechanical issues was on occasions absolutely valid!

2017 Honda Civic - Knocking Noise Turning Steering Wheel at Low Speed - Bolt

You could ask them to check out the power steering torque sensor, I gather they can cause a steering problem if they go wrong, might be worth asking about, I did read they had problems with it in North America though can`t find the info on it now?

2017 Honda Civic - Knocking Noise Turning Steering Wheel at Low Speed - Andrew-T

The car has just passed its MOT with no advisories but I suppose that this issue is not included in the things tested

Having watched a MoT tester at work on the front suspension of my cars, if your car passed without advisories I would have thought that part was pretty safe ?

2017 Honda Civic - Knocking Noise Turning Steering Wheel at Low Speed - Bolt

The car has just passed its MOT with no advisories but I suppose that this issue is not included in the things tested

Having watched a MoT tester at work on the front suspension of my cars, if your car passed without advisories I would have thought that part was pretty safe ?

CV joints can be deceiving as they can appear to be ok for a while knocking, they usually get worse as time and driving goes on, then break up so I wouldn`t say pretty safe if it is CVJ as MOT wont pick it up unless severe play in the joint!

2017 Honda Civic - Knocking Noise Turning Steering Wheel at Low Speed - focussed

The car has just passed its MOT with no advisories but I suppose that this issue is not included in the things tested

Having watched a MoT tester at work on the front suspension of my cars, if your car passed without advisories I would have thought that part was pretty safe ?

CV joints can be deceiving as they can appear to be ok for a while knocking, they usually get worse as time and driving goes on, then break up so I wouldn`t say pretty safe if it is CVJ as MOT wont pick it up unless severe play in the joint!

How many Honda's have you known knock out the CV joints?

Not many I would say.

2017 Honda Civic - Knocking Noise Turning Steering Wheel at Low Speed - Adampr

My FR-V had a peculiar appetite for drive shafts. I believe CR-Vs of the era were the same. That means little in the context of this query other than to highlight that Honda's are not immune from weakness

2017 Honda Civic - Knocking Noise Turning Steering Wheel at Low Speed - Bolt

How many Honda's have you known knock out the CV joints?

Not many I would say.

Hondas are a different story as they can take as much as you can throw at them, possibly I car as I remember, but that was kerbed at high speed on a corner

all I was saying was its not likely MOT testers are going to spot a bad cvj unless its really bad, that goes for any car, though do wonder if the Torque sensor may be the cause, but that needs iirc diagnostics to check

2017 Honda Civic - Knocking Noise Turning Steering Wheel at Low Speed - gordonbennet

I don't comment on this forum any more but someone mentioned this particular thread.

If its only light regular knocking on hard lock then amost certainly a CV joint running dry.

You don't need a Honda dealer and you probably don't even need a new drive shaft or two, what you need is, either yourself or someone else competent, to snip off the large clamp of all 4 cv joint rubber boots, peel back the rubber boot and repack each joint with the correct CV joint grease, its a moly grease which will probably be labelled as CV joint grease, note the inners despite common belief can make just as much racket as the outers if they run dry.

1 tub of grease costing about a tenner, and a pack of the correct CV joint tie straps and the special tool to tighten them and Robert is your dads brother, you can do this in about an hour for a total cost of about £30 and the pack of ties and clamping tool are with you forever and will save you £hundreds over the years.

You can temporarily refasten the CV joints with strong cable ties pulled tightly, but these should be replaced when convenient by the correct ties once confirmed it has cured the problem, so long as the boot isn't leaking it will lass the MOT with cable tied CV boots.

I do this job as soon as i hear the tell tale noises, been doing this for over 40 years now and am yet as far as i can recall to renew a drive shaft on one of my own cars...i've bought a thin Sealey Tools adaptor that attaches to my grease gun flexible end, its like a 6" long thin hollow pencil, this allows me to snip the small end of the CV boot, slide the adaptor up inside the boot right into the CV joint itself and pump grease in to my hearts content.

Few garages will do this job for you, they'll want to fit new drive shaft @ £££, but you might find a handy proper local mechanic who knows how to save customer's money to do it for you if you don't feel up to it yourself.

2017 Honda Civic - Knocking Noise Turning Steering Wheel at Low Speed - Andrew-T

Good to see you back, GB ....

2017 Honda Civic - Knocking Noise Turning Steering Wheel at Low Speed - gordonbennet

Good to see you back, GB ....

Nice of you to say so Andrew, thankyou, not going to be a regular again though.

2017 Honda Civic - Knocking Noise Turning Steering Wheel at Low Speed - brambobb

Thank you very much again for all the tips and advice. I am due to visit a local garage this week for further checks on this issue. Hopefully the solution, if they can find one, will be at the lower end of the cost spectrum.

Up to now the car has covered 55000 miles completely flawlessly so I am hoping to keep it for some time, especially since my wife actually likes it too!

2017 Honda Civic - Knocking Noise Turning Steering Wheel at Low Speed - focussed

Good to see you back, GB ....

Nice of you to say so Andrew, thankyou, not going to be a regular again though.

That's a shame GB, we could do with a bit of your common sense on here at times.

2017 Honda Civic - Knocking Noise Turning Steering Wheel at Low Speed - Oli rag

Good to see you back, GB ....

Nice of you to say so Andrew, thankyou, not going to be a regular again though.

That's a shame GB, we could do with a bit of your common sense on here at times.

Too true, you’re much missed GB.

2017 Honda Civic - Knocking Noise Turning Steering Wheel at Low Speed - Bolt

I contacted a local garage to ask them to have a look but they wanted to charge me £55 to run a diagnostic test, which seemed strange to me as surely this is likely to be a mechanical rather than an electronic issue

I may be wrong but I think you will find its a computerised electric steering system on that which will possibly need a diagnostics check

I am doubtful it is a CVJ problem, but please let us know how you get on and good luck

2017 Honda Civic - Knocking Noise Turning Steering Wheel at Low Speed - brambobb

I took it to the garage in my village today and to be honest I am not a lot further forward. They looked at it on the ramp and could see no problem. When I went back to collect it the mechanic pointed out that there is a knock on every quarter turn of the wheel, noticeable both in motion and when stationary. He thought that the noise is from the base of the shaft where it goes into the steering rack but did not feel that it was significant enough to cause any real problem for now. He said that he was 99% confident that it is not from the CV joint.

Overall I am still not happy with the situation and will probably take it elsewhere for a second opinion.

2017 Honda Civic - Knocking Noise Turning Steering Wheel at Low Speed - Andrew-T

When I went back to collect it the mechanic pointed out that there is a knock on every quarter turn of the wheel, noticeable both in motion and when stationary.

Is the wheel attached by 4 bolts ?

2017 Honda Civic - Knocking Noise Turning Steering Wheel at Low Speed - Bolt

I took it to the garage in my village today and to be honest I am not a lot further forward. They looked at it on the ramp and could see no problem. When I went back to collect it the mechanic pointed out that there is a knock on every quarter turn of the wheel, noticeable both in motion and when stationary. He thought that the noise is from the base of the shaft where it goes into the steering rack but did not feel that it was significant enough to cause any real problem for now. He said that he was 99% confident that it is not from the CV joint.

Overall I am still not happy with the situation and will probably take it elsewhere for a second opinion.

I wonder if he means the steering column universal joints as they can knock due to play in the joint, top one can be felt with hand if you look under the lower dash, lower joint will be under bonnet on the rack, though not sure if this has electronic link to rack or mechanical ? someone else may know better....

2017 Honda Civic - Knocking Noise Turning Steering Wheel at Low Speed - edlithgow

I took it to the garage in my village today and to be honest I am not a lot further forward. They looked at it on the ramp and could see no problem. When I went back to collect it the mechanic pointed out that there is a knock on every quarter turn of the wheel, noticeable both in motion and when stationary. He thought that the noise is from the base of the shaft where it goes into the steering rack but did not feel that it was significant enough to cause any real problem for now.

MIGHT suggest wheel bearing, though I can't offhand think why that would be every 0.25 turn.

Is there a UJ with two yokes in the drivetrain?

2017 Honda Civic - Knocking Noise Turning Steering Wheel at Low Speed - Bolt

I took it to the garage in my village today and to be honest I am not a lot further forward. They looked at it on the ramp and could see no problem. When I went back to collect it the mechanic pointed out that there is a knock on every quarter turn of the wheel, noticeable both in motion and when stationary. He thought that the noise is from the base of the shaft where it goes into the steering rack but did not feel that it was significant enough to cause any real problem for now.

MIGHT suggest wheel bearing, though I can't offhand think why that would be every 0.25 turn.

Is there a UJ with two yokes in the drivetrain?

Its one of these

2016 2017 2018 Honda Civic Steering Wheel Column Shaft Rod OEM | eBay

2017 Honda Civic - Knocking Noise Turning Steering Wheel at Low Speed - elekie&a/c doctor
After all these checks and tests , it looks like it may be a universal joint in the steering column causing the issue. Have you tried adjusting the column in/out and up and down to see if the noise changes? The noise every 1/4 turn is reminiscent of the old Ford fiestas that suffered a clonk on rotation caused by a seized lower uj .

Edited by elekie&a/c doctor on 21/09/2022 at 09:01

2017 Honda Civic - Knocking Noise Turning Steering Wheel at Low Speed - edlithgow

So by "quarter turn of the wheel" the OP meant "quarter turn of the steering wheel"?

That would make sense, and re-reading it is implied by the context. Just got myself misdirected. .

Edited by edlithgow on 23/09/2022 at 03:48

2017 Honda Civic - Knocking Noise Turning Steering Wheel at Low Speed - brambobb

Apologies for any confusion caused - the quarter turn comment did relate to the steering wheel, not the car wheels.

I did adjust the steering wheel itself as suggested by the previous poster and first impression is that the knock appears to be less apparent but I was just putting the car into the garage at the time that a heavy shower of rain was starting so I will need to test it further tomorrow.

Thanks again to everyone who has taken the time and trouble to help me in trying to overcome this problem.

2017 Honda Civic - Knocking Noise Turning Steering Wheel at Low Speed - brambobb

Apologies for any confusion caused - the quarter turn comment did relate to the steering wheel, not the car wheels.

I did adjust the steering wheel itself as suggested by the previous poster and first impression is that the knock appears to be less apparent but I was just putting the car into the garage at the time that a heavy shower of rain was starting so I will need to test it further tomorrow.

Thanks again to everyone who has taken the time and trouble to help me in trying to overcome this problem.

2017 Honda Civic - Knocking Noise Turning Steering Wheel at Low Speed - robert watt

Apologies for any confusion caused - the quarter turn comment did relate to the steering wheel, not the car wheels.

I did adjust the steering wheel itself as suggested by the previous poster and first impression is that the knock appears to be less apparent but I was just putting the car into the garage at the time that a heavy shower of rain was starting so I will need to test it further tomorrow.

Thanks again to everyone who has taken the time and trouble to help me in trying to overcome this problem.

Hello All,

Did this cure the problem? - I ask as I have had a similar issue with a 2014 Civic Tourer which seemed to disappear and then come back, totally randomly. Took it to the local garage whom suggested the I adjust the steering column in/out and up/down several times which has cured the issue completely. It transpires that on the rare occasions my wife drove the car and adjusted the steering wheel the click went for months and then came back.

2017 Honda Civic - Knocking Noise Turning Steering Wheel at Low Speed - robert watt

Hello All,

Although a different model, I also did as per the link below, as well as the in/out up/down process. Thank you to all the contributors suggestions. Lovely smooth steering now !

www.piloteers.org/threads/lube-your-shaft.158213/