Biennial MoT tests is an idea that's been floated several times in the last few years.
We know that a significant number of cars fail the test on majors or get advisories for marginal tyres etc at a yearly test. Too many motorists think "if it passed the MoT it's OK". Does letting those cars out on the road for another year sound remotely sensible?
I know the French controle tecniq is biennial but that's a different country with different policing and culture.
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35% of cars fail the MoT - some for trivial, but also major faults with braking, steering and suspension.
A cost of living crisis will inevitably increase the numbers who seek to avoid expenditure on car maintenance putting both themselves and other at risk. Less competent and/or knowledgeable car owners may be unaware that there is a fault!
We should stick to annual inspections - although there may be an argument to rethink the inclusion in the MoT of largely non-safety critical items to minimise costs.
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I have been relying on an annual MOT as part of my service regime so not a fan of changing. I doubt the garage industry or road safety people will be happy either. Gov clutching at straws and running out of ideas to save £50 every other year it will not happen. The sooner Grant Shapps leaves DOT the better he hasn't got a clue
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There are many thousands of people who have an annual MOT rather than a service. I for
one did this in 2021 having only covered a short mileage in lockdowns. Granted-I did also have an oil change.
A year later I took advantage of
a free vehicle health check plus MOT and oil change having covered 5000 miles.
I’d keep the annual MOT. One big thought though. What about cancelling advisories if we went to 2 years? All recomended work to be completed before a pass?
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35% of cars fail the MoT - some for trivial, but also major faults with braking, steering and suspension.
A cost of living crisis will inevitably increase the numbers who seek to avoid expenditure on car maintenance putting both themselves and other at risk. Less competent and/or knowledgeable car owners may be unaware that there is a fault!
We should stick to annual inspections - although there may be an argument to rethink the inclusion in the MoT of largely non-safety critical items to minimise costs.
Good point. Besides, saving people £54 a year, whilst nice would likely be gobbled up by a) one month's increase in their gas, electricity and especially car's fuel bill and leaving 2 years between MOTs would likely cause an increase in accidents (and thus the cost of them overall) due to dangerously worn parts such as lights, tyres, brakes and/or suspension.
Many people still use MOTs are a 'guide' to what they should have repaired on their car rather than use their own judgement via basic checks and a good mechanic to inspect and maintain it properly. My neighbour was lucky to have their passed its MOT after one of their tyres was within a small margin of being illegal (tread depth).
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Biennial MoT tests is an idea that's been floated several times in the last few years.
We know that a significant number of cars fail the test on majors or get advisories for marginal tyres etc at a yearly test. Too many motorists think "if it passed the MoT it's OK". Does letting those cars out on the road for another year sound remotely sensible?
I know the French controle tecniq is biennial but that's a different country with different policing and culture.
Yes it's different to the UK in France.
The French MOT is from 4 years old not 3 years as in the UK.
About 2.3 x the size in area of the UK so the opportunity to drive long distances is greater.
People in rural areas, (and there is a lot of rural area in France) tend to have to drive long distances for work.
Used car adverts frequently advertise cars for sale with more than 300,000 km on the odometer.
The French police and gendarmes are not noted for inspecting your car for technical defects on a routine stop apart from the usual dodgy tyres and bits falling off etc, they just inspect that your paperwork is in order, and sometimes do breath tests.
The french MOT is carried out by testing stations not garages so no dodgy makey-workey fails.
As regards servicing there are a lot more small garage workshops and dealers in rural france than in the UK- a workshop + small showroom with one new car in it is not unusual out in the sticks.
And yet the official figure for accidents with technical causes is less than 0.75%
There is no MOT for motorcycles in France and the figure for accidents with technical causes is less than 0.5% - mostly the scooter riders.
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As a compromise, how about biennial tests from 3 years on, then annual from 10 years, when more serious defects and corrosion become common ? 3, 5, 7, 9, 10, 11, 12, ...
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As a compromise, how about biennial tests from 3 years on, then annual from 10 years, when more serious defects and corrosion become common ? 3, 5, 7, 9, 10, 11, 12, ...
I believe Spain has annual tests once the car is 10 years old (every 2 years for younger cars).
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Easier way to save households over a 100 quid a year. Make the BBC manage on its own and abolish the licence fee.
Edited by Ethan Edwards on 27/04/2022 at 08:22
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As a compromise, how about biennial tests from 3 years on, then annual from 10 years, when more serious defects and corrosion become common ? 3, 5, 7, 9, 10, 11, 12, ...
Agreed - almost. 4, 6, 8, 10, 11, 12....... High milers who run new cars almost invariably have them serviced during the first four years.
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The Government taxes fuel, electricity and gas. Revenues rise as prices rise.
There is an obvious solution: but that would mean the Government would lose some extra revenues. Government is run by the Government for the Government. But paid for by voters.
Saving money on MOTs is irrelevant. The Energy Cap rise in April is £693 on average: 5% of that (roughly) is tax or c £35. And it is likely to increase a LOT more in October.
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Government is run by the Government for the Government. But paid for by voters.
And non-voters, who presumably aren't bothered.
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As a compromise, how about biennial tests from 3 years on, then annual from 10 years, when more serious defects and corrosion become common ? 3, 5, 7, 9, 10, 11, 12, ...
Agreed - almost. 4, 6, 8, 10, 11, 12....... High milers who run new cars almost invariably have them serviced during the first four years.
And Sammy1 and like-minded others could stick to annual tests if they choose. Back in the 70s I worked with a risk-averse guy who had his Renault 5 tested every 6 months, just in case. Topped himself a few years later, sadly :-(
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According to the RAC the most common reasons for failure are:
Lighting and signalling - 19%
Suspension - 13%
Brakes -10%
Tyres - 8%
Lighting and tyres can affect any car regardless of age and there are plenty of newish cars running on damaged or worn tyres and/or with a brake or headlight out. For some owners the only time they will care is at MoT time. Biannual MoT is a bad idea from a Government that's trying to find a no cost headline grabbing gimmick.
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I read the government discussion document about changing to a 2 year MOT. Apparently very few accidents are due to equipment failure, most are driver error.
3.28 The study estimated that vehicle defects are likely to be a contributory factor in around 3% of road accidents although there is no established link between MOT measured roadworthiness and vehicle defects contributing to accidents.
www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j...f
Edited by Crickleymal on 27/04/2022 at 16:51
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I'm on the Yougov panel and one of today's daily questions was
Do you support or oppose the suggestion that the government may make MOT testing every 2 years.
I was surprised and dismayed that 48% of respondents supported it, compared to 36% against. 16% "didn't know".
If you can't afford £54 a year for a safety check (and I haven't paid over £40 for over ten years), or half a tank of fuel these days, should you even own a car?
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If there is little or no demonstrable link between vehicle equipment and accidents, why bother to have an MOT test. It only tests the vehicle at the time of presentation. It does not provide a no fault warranty for 12 months.
With a two year MOT almost all faults can develop from an easy pass to a major fail - suspension, brakes, steering, corrosion.
Those driving the car already have to take responsibility for compliance with law - lighting, emissions, tyres etc. Anyone buying an untested vehicle could choose to either have an inspection or use their own judgement.
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Those driving the car already have to take responsibility for compliance with law - lighting, emissions, tyres etc. Anyone buying an untested vehicle could choose to either have an inspection or use their own judgement.
This is precisely the problem though.
The majority of motorists who are not interested in cars or driving have no idea what their legal responsibilities are. A further minority probably do but choose to ignore them and purposely drive around with no MOT, tax, insurance, license (see any Channel 5 documentary with Cops or Interceptors in the title)
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If there is little or no demonstrable link between vehicle equipment and accidents, why bother to have an MOT test. It only tests the vehicle at the time of presentation. It does not provide a no fault warranty for 12 months.
You could reverse this argument and say that as there is no correlation, the present inspection system must be preventing accidents caused by vehicle faults ! Then raise the interval to 2 years and see if anything changes.
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I read the government discussion document about changing to a 2 year MOT. Apparently very few accidents are due to equipment failure, most are driver error.
Logically that would mean that they should be testing the drivers at least as much as the cars. That isn't going to happen though - the motor trade couldn't make any money out of it.
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