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Toyota Yaris 1.3 - Auto gearbox intermittent no drive - Steveieb

My daughter in laws 22 year old Yaris has developed a fault with the auto gearbox.

On one occasion the car failed to select reverse, then forward and after three attempts she switched the engine off a few times and eventually she was able to get drive.

Having a baby in the back was obviously worrying for her .

Has anyone an idea if this is potentially a terminal fault or hopefully something simple to fix. The car is in good condition and has had nothing , yes nothing gone wrong in the last four years and passed its MOT every time.

Toyota Yaris 1.3 - Auto gearbox intermittent no drive - daveyjp

The obvious starting point is a full service of the gearbox with fluid drain and new filters.

Toyota Yaris 1.3 - Auto gearbox intermittent no drive - elekie&a/c doctor

I think you will find this is an Mmt robotised electric shift manual gearbox. Possible faults with the actuator and/or clutch mechanism.

Toyota Yaris 1.3 - Auto gearbox intermittent no drive - bathtub tom

I suggest the OP looks at the Toyota Yaris owners club website and searches for the MMT reset pages. There's some VERY illuminating information there.

Toyota Yaris 1.3 - Auto gearbox intermittent no drive - Rerepo

Pretty sure that this is a conVentional 4 speed auto.

Lack of drive probably due to general wear and tear in the box. Rebuild required. Probably not worth it.

Toyota Yaris 1.3 - Auto gearbox intermittent no drive - Steveieb

Think you are right Repro .
The car is a 1999 yes 1999 on a Y reg.

Am I right in thinking this is a TC conventional gearbox ?

Would you recommend a rebuild at a auto gearbox specialist. We have one at Kettering Auto Gearboxes near us.

Toyota Yaris 1.3 - Auto gearbox intermittent no drive - thunderbird

Would you recommend a rebuild at a auto gearbox specialist. We have one at Kettering Auto Gearboxes near us.

I have only known one person that has needed an auto box rebuilding. It was a 5 year old Mazda 6 (owned form new) and the whole job was done at the local gearbox specialist, only about 1/2 a mile from home. Total for the work was over £1000.

Would you really want to spend anything like this amount on a 22 year old car?

Toyota Yaris 1.3 - Auto gearbox intermittent no drive - Steveieb

Apart from this problem the car has been faultless. Passed every MOT.

Plan to get a diagnosis from The specialist in Kettering.

Toyota Yaris 1.3 - Auto gearbox intermittent no drive - Rerepo

Think you are right Repro .
The car is a 1999 yes 1999 on a Y reg.

Am I right in thinking this is a TC conventional gearbox ?

Would you recommend a rebuild at a auto gearbox specialist. We have one at Kettering Auto Gearboxes near us.

1999 to 2006 used an Aisin A series 4-speed box.

Rebuild not really economical to rebuild unless the rest of the car is perfect. If you are feeling lucky you could look around for a lower mileage used unit. Probably around £200. And they are dead easy to fit...

Toyota Yaris 1.3 - Auto gearbox intermittent no drive - Big John

I think this has a traditional torque converter auto box, the horrible MMT came later. Usually very reliable.

Double check auto fluid level - if low it can cause drive issues. If fluid is low then investigate a reason.

One fault I've seen in the past with older auto cars has been with the oil cooler pipes rusting through and leaking. The other has been where oil cooler has failed where integrated into the cooling radiator.

Edited by Big John on 25/01/2022 at 09:11

Toyota Yaris 1.3 - Auto gearbox intermittent no drive - madf

This IS a traditional auto gearbox. MMT came later.

Change the transmission fluid. Run for 50 miles.

Then change it again. Probably never been serviced..

Toyota Yaris 1.3 - Auto gearbox intermittent no drive - daveyjp

If the engine oil hadn't been changed for 22 years would you advise new oil without also replacing the filter?

Same for the gearbox. Drain, sump cover off, new strainer, new filter, new gasket, fresh fluid.

Slightly younger model, but same procedure.

https://youtu.be/kuYAPcvT83k

Toyota Yaris 1.3 - Auto gearbox intermittent no drive - Metropolis.
Agree with DaveyJP
Toyota Yaris 1.3 - Auto gearbox intermittent no drive - blindspot

i would look at the linkage. check its tight and clean. get someone to move the lever from inside , while you look

Toyota Yaris 1.3 - Auto gearbox intermittent no drive - Steveieb

Really appreciate your advice.

Speaking to the specialist they have seen the electronic clutch causing these problems along with low battery voltage.

Toyota Yaris 1.3 - Auto gearbox intermittent no drive - Rerepo

Really appreciate your advice.

Speaking to the specialist they have seen the electronic clutch causing these problems along with low battery voltage.

Has your specialist actually seen the car or is this over the phone? Your Yaris does not have an electronic clutch. Wonder if he is confusing it with a Micra or with the MMT box?

Edited by Rerepo on 25/01/2022 at 23:10

Toyota Yaris 1.3 - Auto gearbox intermittent no drive - Steveieb

Not yet Rerapo . I’m waiting for my daughter in law to let me have the car . She uses it for work.

The auto specialist has branched out into EVs and also electric fork lift trucks.

Can you explain what components this Aisin gearbox has please ?

Cherrs

Toyota Yaris 1.3 - Auto gearbox intermittent no drive - Rerepo

Not yet Rerapo . I’m waiting for my daughter in law to let me have the car . She uses it for work.

The auto specialist has branched out into EVs and also electric fork lift trucks.

Can you explain what components this Aisin gearbox has please ?

Cherrs

Torque converter, oil pump on front of input shaft. Epicyclic gear sets. Series of multiplate clutches and a brake band. I think there are three shift solenoids. Plus of course speed sensor, reverse/park switch and shift position switch.

I think it should drive in first and reverse. Assuming the shift selector cable is correctly adjusted etc and the box has fluid then the most likely problem is loss of line pressure due to internal leaks in the gearbox. After 22 years the seals are likely worn and hardened.

Edited by Rerepo on 26/01/2022 at 18:08

Toyota Yaris 1.3 - Auto gearbox intermittent no drive - Steveieb

Thanks for all your helpful advice.

The fault has not appeared again and when I checked the oil today it was clear red colour and on the full mark.

Will take it for a full check when I can get access.