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Nissan Leaf - Stuck dustcaps - ASHLEYHYDE86
Hi
Wondering if anybody can help. I got a leaf from the local Nissan dealership in 2019. Recently I had a warning light that my tyres needed pumping up, went to do it but somebody had put metal dustcaps on and they are stuck. Took it back to the dealer today (the dustcaps were on there when I got the car) and they’ve tried charging me £400 to get them fixed. I politely told them that I wouldn’t be paying that and they gave me the after sales director’s email address. Any advice on what to do next? The car is still within it’s 5 year manufacturers warranty.
Nissan Leaf - Stuck dustcaps - badbusdriver

I take it we are talking about valve caps on the tyres?, and are these metal caps non standard?.

I'd try squirting something like WD40 round the edge of the caps, leave them for an hour, then try again by hand. If still no joy, repeat with the WD40, but after the hour, try to loosen them with a pair of pliers. Be careful not to squeeze too tight though.

Nissan Leaf - Stuck dustcaps - ASHLEYHYDE86
Thanks will give it a go.
Nissan Leaf - Stuck dustcaps - Falkirk Bairn

If that fails it's off to the tyre man.

They will take the tyres off, cut off the valves - new valves & rebalance they wheels.

I would think £8-£10 per wheel.

Nissan Leaf - Stuck dustcaps - catsdad

These will probably be TPMS (pressure monitoring) valves so they will be more expensive than dumb valves. But the dealer quote is excessive.

I am a regular user of WD40 and it may release the valves but it’s not a specialist release oil. If the OP Doesn’t already have some and needs to buy something I would suggest looking for a releasing product.

Nissan Leaf - Stuck dustcaps - daveyjp

Probably a reaction between the different metals of the valve and the replacement dust cap, coupled with rain and winter salt. My B class had OEM metal caps and they also used to stick.

A release spray and very gentle use of pliers should release them.

Nissan Leaf - Stuck dustcaps - ASHLEYHYDE86
Hi all thanks for the advice. In my eyes the dealers should be doing it for free as they sold me the car with these dustcaps on. It is 2 different metals that have stuck together, is there a release oil you’d recommend in particular?
Nissan Leaf - Stuck dustcaps - bathtub tom

I've had metal dust caps and they had a hexagon head. You might be better off using the correct size spanner rather than pliers.

Nissan Leaf - Stuck dustcaps - John Boy

I didn't know you could still buy this:

www.screwfix.com/p/plusgas-formula-a-dismantling-l...t

I've still got some from before it was sold as an aerosol!

Nissan Leaf - Stuck dustcaps - elekie&a/c doctor
Don’t try to undo them . You will snap the valve stem . Take it to a garage tyre shop that has a mini die grinder . Carefully cut a slit in the valve cap and work it loose .
Nissan Leaf - Stuck dustcaps - focussed

The caps are more than likely a light metal, aluminium, aluminium/zinc etc.

Get the valve at the bottom of the wheel and gently pour boiling water over the cap and immediately try to loosen it with a pair of pipe pliers, tape the jaws with insulation tape first to avoid damaging the cap.

It works on motorcycle valve caps.

Using boiling water won't get it too hot and cause damage.

Nissan Leaf - Stuck dustcaps - John F

Using boiling water won't get it too hot and cause damage.

Good idea - and also try counterintuitively twisting clockwise as well as anticlockwise, as the threads have probably 'welded' themselves together. This can happen when two different metals are left in tight contact with each other.......who was the pea-brain who thought metal dust caps were a good idea?

Edited by John F on 27/09/2021 at 17:29

Nissan Leaf - Stuck dustcaps - Andrew-T
Take it to a garage tyre shop that has a mini die grinder . Carefully cut a slit in the valve cap and work it loose .

All the above ideas are worth a try. The important thing is not to go to a Nissan dealer, but a tyre fitters (ATS etc) who are used to dealing with all kinds of tyre problems - including valves with pressure detectors.

Nissan Leaf - Stuck dustcaps - thunderbird

As people may remember we bought a Nissan Pulsar a few years ago. Like the Leaf it uses valve based TPMS. Nissan clearly state in the handbook that METAL VALVECAPS MUST NOT BE USED WITH THESE VALVES.

Ours came with silver coloured plastic caps which are still fitted. No issues.

Don't blame Nissan though, not their fault. Blame the dealer or the stupid previous owner who fitted the metal caps. They should be sorting them FOC.

And when was the last time the OP checked the pressures. Or do they simply rely on the TPMS?

Edited by thunderbird on 29/09/2021 at 15:55

Nissan Leaf - Stuck dustcaps - edlithgow

As people may remember we bought a Nissan Pulsar a few years ago. Like the Leaf it uses valve based TPMS. Nissan clearly state in the handbook that METAL VALVECAPS MUST NOT BE USED WITH THESE VALVES.

Ours came with silver coloured plastic caps which are still fitted. No issues.

Don't blame Nissan though, not their fault. Blame the dealer or the stupid previous owner who fitted the metal caps. They should be sorting them FOC.

And when was the last time the OP checked the pressures. Or do they simply rely on the TPMS?

Never had TPMS and don't much want it, but expecting people who have it not to rely on it seems a bit unrealistic.

OP, might help to apply your release agent (a mix of acetone and ATF is well spoken of, but PlusGas or WD40 is more convenient. I mostly use diesel fuel) with the valve at the top of the tyre. This will mean its pointing downward and anything applied to the stem will run down it and potentially into the threads.

You could enhance this by making a "sock" with a bit of polythene bag secured with a rubber band, wire etc, or aluminium foil crumpled to shape, which will retain some penetrant and allow it to soak in.

For heating, I would probably use a flame, but if this makes you nervous you could hold a cup of hot liquid (oil or water) up to the valve and dip it in. This should get it hotter than pouring it on.

Apparently you shouldn't refit these metal caps, but if you did, putting some thin polythene sheet (free) over the stem threads (or using PTFE thread tape. very cheap) should ensure they didn't stick again

Edited by edlithgow on 30/09/2021 at 13:51

Nissan Leaf - Stuck dustcaps - thunderbird

Never had TPMS and don't much want it, but expecting people who have it not to rely on it seems a bit unrealistic.

If you have never had it you will not be aware of its limitations. I will try and explain as simply as I can based on the 7 cars we have owned fitted with TPMS.

Whilst I understand some high end cars have displays that show the pressure at each corner we have yet to own a car that is capable of this. On all the cars we have owned all the system does is monitor either the pressure via the valve (1 car) or by the rotational speed of the tyre vis the ABS sensors (6 cars) and alert you via a "bong" and dash warning about a loss of pressure. Not even the car with valves (the Pulsar) indicated which corner it was, only way to do that was look around the car (all the tyres looked fine) and then check the pressures using a gauge which showed one corner was 3 psi low. Further investigation quickly discovered a screw so it was inflate the tyre to the correct pressure and dive to the local indy (less than a mile away) and get it sorted.

One major downfall of systems that measure the pressure using the ABS system to measure rotational speed is the simple fact that if all 4 tyres suffered a puncture at exactly the same time (not impossible, ran over a box of nails dropped by a van once that left me with at least one nail in every tyre - not just me affected and the company that owned the van paid for all the repairs) the system would potentially not alert you since all 4 corners could still be rotating at the same speed as each other.

So its not sensible to rely on TPMS, the handbooks for our 2 current cars both tell you to still check pressures monthly. Considering that many on here moan about to discontinuation of dipsticks on some cars its surprising that owners are quite happy to put their faith in a system with known shortcomings.

Would I go without TPMS, no way. Over the years its probably saved me buying 2 new tyres by allowing me to put on the spare as soon as the warning comes on. But I still do a monthly check.

Nissan Leaf - Stuck dustcaps - thunderbird

For heating, I would probably use a flame, but if this makes you nervous you could hold a cup of hot liquid (oil or water) up to the valve and dip it in. This should get it hotter than pouring it on.

With valves for a Nissan costing in excess of about £30 each + fitting why on earth would anyone want to use a flame near them? You would probably damage the finish to the wheels as well and this would cost good money to sort.

Apparently you shouldn't refit these metal caps, but if you did, putting some thin polythene sheet (free) over the stem threads (or using PTFE thread tape. very cheap) should ensure they didn't stick again

Why not simply use what Nissan (and probably other manufactures) say to use i.e. plastic valve caps. They are cheap (£1.99 for 8 post free from E-Bay - or £9.99 for a hundred in silver post free) and will not rust on.

Nissan Leaf - Stuck dustcaps - edlithgow

Why on earth would anyone...Why not simply...

I said what I would do en passant, before suggesting another course of action for the OP.

I did not say the OP should use a flame, but I might do it because a flame is hotter and more likely to break corrosion. The finish on my wheels is not of concern.

I might not "simply" fit a plastic cap because I didn't have any and wouldn't want to faff around with internyet ordering and payment (always a slight risk) when there's a free solution to hand.

There may. however, be other reasons for not re-fitting the metal caps that I am not aware of.

Nissan Leaf - Stuck dustcaps - Chris M

"If you have never had it you will not be aware of its limitations. I will try and explain as simply as I can based on the 7 cars we have owned fitted with TPMS.

Whilst I understand some high end cars have displays that show the pressure at each corner..."

I don't think anyone would class my Astra K as "high end" but the TPMS shows the tyre pressure at each corner and it's very accurate. So yes, I do rely on it, rather than get my moderately expensive (and accurate) pressure gauge out. I'm in the habit of checking my tyre pressures (via TPMS) every couple of weeks as it's so easy. The alarm will go off when pressure drops by 4psi.

Edited by Chris M on 30/09/2021 at 21:55

Nissan Leaf - Stuck dustcaps - sammy1

Metal dust caps will fuse solid to the valve stem. The best way to remove them is to cut a slit in the side of the cap, insert a screwdriver and open up the slit. The caps are very soft metal and come off very easily. You will need new caps! £400 for this, somebody having a laugh!

Nissan Leaf - Stuck dustcaps - bathtub tom

I sometimes park in a multi-storey just down the road from a fit-quick type place. I used to pick up discarded dust caps as I passed, but I've now so many I don't bother.