sammy1, that example doe not seem well thought-through.

If the car is more heavily loaded an is using more fuel, then you are in the same situation as in an ICE car. You watch the fuel gauge and the range indication, and if it's looing marginal you stop on the way to buy more fuel. Even with a 50kW charger, you can add 3–4 miles of range per minute ... and with a 100kW charger, you can add 6–8 miles of range per minute. So a 20 minute stop will give you between 60 and 160mph range.

But suppose you choose to hypermile it home rather than top up. So you get home with less than 10 miles of range.

If you had run an ICE car to nearly empty, then you'd need to buy fuel when you popped back out for the milk.

Same with an EV: you'd need a quick blast of the rapid charger while you buy the milk. Five minutes at 50KW gives you a little over 4KWhr of charge, which is 16–20 miles of range. So you get home with the milk, and pud the EV into your wallbox overnight. And in the morning, the car is fully refuelled for a cost of only £5 to £10, depending on whether you get cheap night-rate leccy.

So either way, no problem.

Edited by NowWheels on 15/06/2021 at 02:58

"""I have a long held theory that if you are buying a car to do a specific job for a couple of weeks a year, there’s a fair chance you’re in the wrong car for the remaining 50 weeks. Most people won’t trouble the range of a modern EV on a regular basis, and if you do, keep hold of your ICE’s until that position is reversed, because it will be"""

Who's to say you are in the wrong car to satisfy your theory of EV cars. A lot of folks like larger cars 365days and are happy to pay for the privilege for a long while to come yet.

As for additional weight in an EV I was being perfectly serious as it is bound to have an impact on a cars range

As for the pantry being empty when the guy got home you are stuffed in any EV until you hang around to charge the thing!

On a personal note I just can't be bothered playing orienteering from one charger to the next. Maybe someone will set up a pony express whereby you swop the whole car on route? I think I read that someone is thinking about long term renting everything included.

The car was the largest battery option with the highest charging rate. It was new, a car prepared for the motoring press (yes they are specially checked and selected), a warm day, ideal conditions for an EV hence the "over performing on range" claim.

Enyaq80 models start from just under £40,000 and for some reason, do not qualify for the £2,500 plug in grant, only the Enyaq60 qualifies.

I note from the twitter videos he used Ionity chargers at both stops, one of the few suppliers that offer reliable fast chargers but cost 69p/kwh which even at 4miles/kwh works out at 17p/mile, more expensive fuelling than many petrol cars.

Time will tell, Skoda and VAG seem to be having lots of software issues with some of their newest models.

Personally, I feel that following global events, and the resulting political and monetary policy over the last couple of years its likely we will see new cars priced out of reach for many in the UK in the next decade, regardless of what tech. And the new tax regime is anyones guess, but there will be a multi billion pound fuel duty, VAT, and BIK hole to fill as conventional cars are forced off the road.

The car was the largest battery option with the highest charging rate. It was new, a car prepared for the motoring press (yes they are specially checked and selected), a warm day, ideal conditions for an EV hence the "over performing on range" claim.

That is exactly what I suspected plus the route was clearly chosen to make the car look as good as possible.

But it does not change the fact that a few years ago such a trip would not have been attempted. It demonstrates how far things have moved on and will without doubt continue to improve over the next few years.

I honestly look forward to the electric future having experienced limited all electric driving in the Superb PHEV. But for now the PHEV (any brand will do) is a better solution for most people providing they actually charge it for urban runs.