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Rust on Mid 1990 cars - which manufacturer is wors - Paul Whitehead
Why is it that some makes - Rover, Ford, etc. have serious rust / corrosion at this age, whilst other such as Volvo, Audi, VW, etc. show no sign or rust?

Why don't companies realise that, not only does rust depress resale values and reputations, but also, corrosion seriously compromises the strength of the car?

Crash tests are all well and good on new cars, but the average age of cars in Britain must be around five years ? most of us therefor drive cars 5 year olds and over? - So what of the crash worthiness of five year old cars?
Re: Rust on Mid 1990 cars - which manufacturer is - Andrew Wills
don't dismiss VW from List of Shame - Golf Mk IV tailgates (not galvanized) and Polo doors are all vulnerable!
Re: Rust on Mid 1990 cars - which manufacturer is - Michael
i thought it was mkiii golf tailgates that were allegedly vulnerable, not mkiv's.
Re: Rust on Mid 1990 cars - which manufacturer is - Andrew Wills
MkIVs indeed - sorry
Re: Rust on Mid 1990 cars - which manufacturer is - Andrew Barnes
MKIII, not MK IV

Andrew
Re: Rust on Mid 1990 cars - which manufacturer is - Ashley
Take a look at some '90's era Escorts, Astra's, Cavaliers and Mondeo's and they look rather 'tired', but look at Golfs', Passats and Audis' and they look a lot fresher. Why i hear you ask ? Pay more for the car in the beginning and it looks a lot better after five years than if you bought an Escort or Mondeo.

I've yet to see a rusty VW, or Audi that is on a 'J' to 'n' plate. Give them a polish and they shine like the day they came out of the factory. Try doing that to an Escort. Then again, you rarely see a rusty Peugeot either ! I've seen a few 'e' plate 405's that would make a 'm' plate Escort blush with embarrassment.

Rgds,

Ash.
Re: Rust on Mid 1990 cars - which manufacturer is - Guy Lacey
Although a stalwart supporter of VW's - even the MkII's suffer from tailgate rot but please don't slate them too much. At least they don't rot in areas such as the sills/arches/chassis like our friends at Rover/Ford/Vauxhall used to. MkII Golf's are totally wax injected as a preventative measure - u can sometimes see it dribbling out of the tailgate (hence the rot appearing a few years later)

Methinks all manufacturers have improved greatly though.
Rust on Mid 1990 cars - David Lacey
Please remove Rover from your list of Chassis rot as you incorrectly state.
Wheelarch rot, yes but not chassis (as Vauxhall!)

It depends upon how the car has been cared for (underbody & underarch cleaning after the winter etc) that has a direct result upon general later life rot setting in.

Rgds

David
Re: Rust on Mid 1990 cars - fred smith
mmm

take it you havent been round the rover plant then? you may like to watch the underbody spray booth for a few hours and watch what happens when the sprays break down... i'll give you a clue... the cars keep on passing overhead

although the same thing happens at peugeot and browns lane...

do you know how much it costs to stop the track ?
About as much as stopping a Paper Machine!!! - Guy Lacey
Stopping one of our machines costs circa £3000/hour in fixed costs.

Of course, when a fault occurs we *always* take the machine down to correct as per our ISO9002 requirements.........
Re: About as much as stopping a Paper Machine!!! - fred smith
mmm

another lot of factories i have been around...

you making newsprint or fine or bog roll ?

ha ha ha

dont stand in front of a rolling roll of newsprint (as i've seen some hospital cases do)

at least they dont clean the machines with petrol like they do in south america

ha ha ha