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Toyota Prius - Toyota Prius Vs Hyundai Ioniq used prices - Buddy Garrity

Hi all,

I'm looking for some used car advice.

I'm looking for a hybrid as a commuter car for my 18-20k per year mileage in and around London and the M25. My priorities are reliability, economical, comfortable seats and peace and quiet. My budget is around 10k give or take, and I'll be borrowing and paying back that money over 4 years.

I've narrowed my search down to a Prius or an Ioniq. The Prius would be my first choice as it is by all accounts more comfortable and refined, gets slightly better mpg and most of all has famously bulletproof reliability and longevity.

The Hyundai seems to come a respectable close second, not quite as good in most departments and I am questioning whether it's going to have the same reliability in the long term, with it's dual clutch transmission and the fact that it's a less well proven platform.

All things being equal I'd go for the Prius, however comparing the second hand prices the Prius has a huge mark up vs the Ioniq.

For around £10-11k I would be looking at a mid spec 2018 Ioniq with around 30k miles on the clock, vs probably a Prius up to 2 years older and with 70-80k miles.

Is that that then? Should I just go for the newer car of the two with fewer miles? Or is the Prius such a robust car that it would still potentially be the better and safer bet in the long run?

Thanks for your help

Toyota Prius - Toyota Prius Vs Hyundai Ioniq used prices - badbusdriver

There is another issue with the Prius which you may well have come upon while looking at used examples. I was looking at the Prius myself not too long ago and I just couldn't believe how many of the examples on Autotrader were imports!.

You mention paying it up over 4 years, I take it that is (at least) how long you plan to keep the car?. Not sure what to say about the DCT gearbox, certainly something I'd usually try to avoid. But on the other hand, the age of car you are looking at will (assuming full dealer history) still have a couple of years warranty left, and the electric motor should ease the strain on the transmission (assuming previous owners have not driven the car like a boy racer).

I'd also suggest looking at the Toyota Auris hybrid which is mechanical identical to the Prius, and possibly the Lexus CT200h (ditto). I know the Lexus in particular, is not well regarded but the motoring press, but if you look at owners reviews they paint a different picture.

Just had a look at the Auris hybrid and CT200h on Autotrader. There is a 2019 Auris estate with 43k miles for £10990 and a 2017 CT200h with 58k miles for £10450. And you can get a 2018 Auris hatchback with under 30k miles for less than £11k.

Toyota Prius - Toyota Prius Vs Hyundai Ioniq used prices - Xileno

"I just couldn't believe how many of the examples on Autotrader were imports!."

Where are they coming from? Presumably Japan as they drive on the same side of the road as the UK.

Toyota Prius - Toyota Prius Vs Hyundai Ioniq used prices - badbusdriver

"I just couldn't believe how many of the examples on Autotrader were imports!."

Where are they coming from? Presumably Japan as they drive on the same side of the road as the UK.

Yes, I think it might be a booming market selling the Prius to Uber drivers?!.

Nothing particularly worrying about buying a Japanese import of course. You do have to make sure the car is undersealed (they don't salt the roads in Japan), and you do have to make sure the car has a rear foglight (as Japanese cars apparently don't), and you might need to buy an aftermarket infotainment/radio system as the one which the car was fitted with when new, will be in Japanese. If buying from a reputable specialist in JDM imports, all these issues will have been addressed before you pick the car up, but if it is just some Del Boy type, trying to make a bit of money, probably not!.

Also, with JDM imports in general, be aware that the stated age of the car is probably just when it was imported as opposed to when the car rolled of the production line!.

Edited by badbusdriver on 11/04/2021 at 09:48

Toyota Prius - Toyota Prius Vs Hyundai Ioniq used prices - pd

Prius does not have a DCT gearbox. It is closer to a CVT. I've never heard of one failing.

Toyota Prius - Toyota Prius Vs Hyundai Ioniq used prices - badbusdriver

Prius does not have a DCT gearbox. It is closer to a CVT. I've never heard of one failing.

Nobody said the Prius did have a DCT. The Ionic does though, which may be a concern.

Toyota Prius - Toyota Prius Vs Hyundai Ioniq used prices - pd

All the more reason to go with the Prius if reliability is a concern. It'll hold its price better as well and is more of a known quantity.

Auris as suggested is also a good bet.

Toyota Prius - Toyota Prius Vs Hyundai Ioniq used prices - Buddy Garrity

Thanks everyone.

Seems like my instincts are right that the Prius is probably the better bet. I wish I could up my budget to stretch to a lower mileage example but I don't think that will be possible. As someone else mentioned, yes I plan to keep the car for at least 4 years while I repay the loan and then probably sell it and use the residual towards financing my next car. If I get a 70000 mile Prius it will be approaching 150000 miles by the time I'm finished which is a bit of a scary number, but there are so many high mileage examples out there for sale that I guess I shouldn't worry too much. I'm test driving an Ionic tomorrow so I'll give it one more chance to see if I fall in love...

Toyota Prius - Toyota Prius Vs Hyundai Ioniq used prices - badbusdriver

Thanks everyone.

Seems like my instincts are right that the Prius is probably the better bet. I wish I could up my budget to stretch to a lower mileage example but I don't think that will be possible. As someone else mentioned, yes I plan to keep the car for at least 4 years while I repay the loan and then probably sell it and use the residual towards financing my next car. If I get a 70000 mile Prius it will be approaching 150000 miles by the time I'm finished which is a bit of a scary number, but there are so many high mileage examples out there for sale that I guess I shouldn't worry too much. I'm test driving an Ionic tomorrow so I'll give it one more chance to see if I fall in love...

Actually, I'd say the Auris is the better bet. It has the same drivetrain and reliability as the Prius, but is no more expensive than the Ionic.

That is what I'd be looking at most closely.

As for the mileage?. No, you really don't need to be worrying about 150k on a car like that. I mentioned the Lexus CT200h as being another option with the same drivetrain, one of the first I noticed on Autotrader was a 2014 one owner example being sold privately with an asking price of £6395. Mileage?, 208k.

Toyota Prius - Toyota Prius Vs Hyundai Ioniq used prices - skidpan

I'm looking for a hybrid as a commuter car for my 18-20k per year mileage in and around London and the M25.

Presume you realise that hybrids are only of any real benefit in an urban environment and short distances. But for the mention of London you should really be looking for a diesel doing that many miles a year.

Do you actually need to go into the low emissions zone?

Toyota Prius - Toyota Prius Vs Hyundai Ioniq used prices - Buddy Garrity

Do you actually need to go into the low emissions zone?

Yes several times a week, and I spend easily enough time sitting in traffic to justify a hybrid.

Toyota Prius - Toyota Prius Vs Hyundai Ioniq used prices - johncyprus

Having had a cat stolen from a Honda Jazz Mk1 there’s no way I’d have a Prius ( or a Auris ) which are both targeted by cat s******s. Incidentally we replaced it with a 2018 Honda Jazz which we love, it’s a very underrated car.

Toyota Prius - Toyota Prius Vs Hyundai Ioniq used prices - badbusdriver

Having had a cat stolen from a Honda Jazz Mk1 there’s no way I’d have a Prius ( or a Auris ) which are both targeted by cat s******s.

Good point. But I suppose it depends on where/if the car would be parked in areas where theft might be a possibility?. Also, I believe there are various devices available to stop or prevent cat theft, surely some of them work?.

we replaced it with a 2018 Honda Jazz which we love, it’s a very underrated car.

Not by me. We had a 2017 Jazz EX CVT, brilliant car!.

Toyota Prius - Toyota Prius Vs Hyundai Ioniq used prices - Buddy Garrity

Having had a cat stolen from a Honda Jazz Mk1 there’s no way I’d have a Prius ( or a Auris ) which are both targeted by cat s******s. Incidentally we replaced it with a 2018 Honda Jazz which we love, it’s a very underrated car.

It seems like this is mostly an issue affecting older hybrids as the cat is much harder to get to in newer models and the older ones are worth more anyway. Prius mk2 and mk3 are particularly targeted but I think mk4 and Ioniq less so. So it seems anyway. It's certainly a worry. I have gated off street parking at home and they wouldn't be able to get under my car, but out and about parking on the street it's always going to be a risk.

Toyota Prius - Toyota Prius Vs Hyundai Ioniq used prices - Heidfirst

You mention paying it up over 4 years, I take it that is (at least) how long you plan to keep the car?. Not sure what to say about the DCT gearbox, certainly something I'd usually try to avoid. But on the other hand, the age of car you are looking at will (assuming full dealer history) still have a couple of years warranty left, and the electric motor should ease the strain on the transmission (assuming previous owners have not driven the car like a boy racer).

Also might be worth considering that if you get the Toyotas serviced at a dealer you'll get an extended warranty on the drive battery for up to 15 years with unlimited mileage. I don't know if there is an equivalent programme for the Ioniq.

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