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Honda FRV CRDI - Your views please - Steveieb

Would like to own one of these unique cars.

But they are getting old now and main dealers won’t have any to sell.

What are the drawbacks if any and with my low mileage should I be considering a petrol .

But I do like the low end torque the diesel profile usually provides.

Grateful your views !

Honda FRV CRDI - Your views please - elekie&a/c doctor
Not much wrong with these , but weren’t very popular. Possibly due to the three up front seating . Good idea at the time , but not very practical. Scruffy ones are banger money now . Certainly would not entertain a diesel at any condition. Even these early Honda Diesel engines are not without their problems .
Honda FRV CRDI - Your views please - badbusdriver

I also like the FR-V, though hardly unique. Personally, i'd really like one of the pre-facelift Fiat multipla's!. But the youngest of them is going to be 16 so chances of finding a good one is, well, not good!.

Going back to the FR-V though, on Autotrader there are 20 diesel versions nationwide, but if you set the mileage cap to 100k that figure drops to 7!. And the youngest is 2009. I believe SLO really rates the 2.2 diesel though that doesn't mean you are not potentially going to have problems with a 11 year old version.

For that reason, and given the low mileage covered, i'd go petrol and i'd also go automatic to make the front centre seat more useable. For UK cars, that means the 1.8 petrol, very reliable and quite pokey with 138bhp, but a bit short of torque. The auto hides this to an extent, but not the excess revs needed for a boost of acceleration. So might be worth looking at Japanese imports, which could have the 2.0 engine with auto. Of course if you actually don't want an auto, the 2.0 manual was available in this country.

Honda FRV CRDI - Your views please - Jamie3141

Without having any experience of this car, I will reiterate what others have said as I've been browsing Honda forums:

AFAIK, the three petrol versions all use a Honda R-series engine which has a chain-driven camshaft (this replaced the D-series' belt-driven engines). Reports of the tensioner pulley on the serp belts going is common at 60k-70k intervals. It is fairly common to have a noisy canister purge valve too, which creates a knock. Continual reports of it guzzling due to bad oxygen sensors.

Advice tends to be that the petrol is more likely to be trouble free for longer. The iCDTI was Honda's first attempt at a diesel (N22A) and is riddled with issues that they've iteratively solved since. iCDTI has reports of dual mass flywheels going fairly early, EGR valves, cracked manifolds and turbos, etc.

Mileage arguments shouldn't be considered. The iCDTI is reported to give only 35mpg. In short, stick to the petrols.

Honda FRV CRDI - Your views please - Archie35

I've got one of these! It's a 2007 diesel, which I've owned since new (it was the top model at the time with leather etc - can't remember as I type what they call it!). We really like it (though I am, funnily enough, beginning to think of selling it, but only because the children are starting to move out and we really don't need a second car of this size any more).

The seating arrangement is really good for a few situations:

-family of 4 (like us), with 2 grandparents visiting, and when you still want a full boot for pushchairs, shopping, suitcases etc.

-one parent & 2 chlldren, tryng to go for an after school trip with another parent and 2 children (eg in our cases it was my wife and our children, and a friend and hers) - again, still needing a full boot.

The front middle seat is a bit tight to fit 3 adults across (though I have done that if you slide seats forward backwards, but it's not ideal), but our children loved sitting there when allowed as you get a great view forward.

Our car has been pretty much faultless other than usual wear and tear. Economy is not that bad - we average about 41mpg (mix of country and small city driving), and on good runs can touch 50 mpg. We moved overseas for a while, so my father looked after it then - liked it so much be bought himself one (a petrol version, but the same age) - he wishes he'd bought diesel as the economy is far worse in petrol. That being said, as he lives in London, if he'd bought a diesel soon he'd have problems as the diesel does not meet the ultra low pollution rules coming in.

As I was in the army when I bought it, we drove to and from Germany a fair few times in it - a very comfortable car for such trips. People constantly say "oh, its a rather wide car" - in fact, that's an optical illusion, and its narrower than plenty of other cars, but you do sit a bit nearer the door than many (to squeeze that middle seat in).

Tax is a bit higher than some newer cars (which is another reason why I'm thinking of getting rid of it). But to be honest, I am in a real dilemma about selling it - so far (touching wood) it has been a great, reliable and practical car, and a lot of me thinks its better to hang on to something you have owned and serviced since new. On the other hand, it's getting on for 13 years old (though low milage for its age due to my time overseas - my father kept it running, with the occasional longer trip, but by and large didn't do much mileage) so I have no idea if it's about to start to get expensive. Hope that helps - happy to answer any other questions!

Honda FRV CRDI - Your views please - Steveieb

Thanks Archie,

Are you able to send me some more details when you are ready to sell?

Im at Steve.bardill@talktalk.net.

Cheers

Honda FRV CRDI - Your views please - Steveieb

Being a 2007 model year i expect it wont have a dpf Archie ?

Honda FRV CRDI - Your views please - badbusdriver

People constantly say "oh, its a rather wide car" - in fact, that's an optical illusion, and its narrower than plenty of other cars, but you do sit a bit nearer the door than many (to squeeze that middle seat in).

The FR-V was quite a wide car, for its day (10cm wider than the Civic of the time). But compared to current cars, it isn't. For a couple of comparisons, the FR-V (1810mm excluding mirrors) is only 12mm wider than a current Renault Clio (the widest of the supermini's) and 15mm narrower than the current Ford Focus.

The Fiat Multipla was very wide for its day (1870mm), wider than a contemporary Merc S Class and still quite wide today. This is because the three seats in each row were full sized, whereas in the Honda, the centre seat of each row was a slimmed down version. Extra shoulder space was created by giving the centre seats the ability to slide several inches further back allowing shoulders to overlap.

Honda FRV CRDI - Your views please - pd

Early 2.2 diesels had the odd issue but I wouldn't say they were "riddled" with issues. Most will have either been fixed by now or in a scrap yard.

Main things to watch out for is a rattling timing chain and cracked manifold. The latter gives a smell in the cabin. Most of the timing chain issues were caused by poor servicing IMO.

Both petrol and diesel engines were decent enough tbh.

Honda FRV CRDI - Your views please - Jamie3141

I wouldn't say they were "riddled" with issues

Apologies, that may have been hyperbole on my part

Honda FRV CRDI - Your views please - Archie35

I didn't double-check this at the time, but I clearly recall reading car reviews when I was thinking of buying it saying that it was a touch narrower than the Golf!

That being said, I've realised over the years that some of these car reviews get mixed up about whether mirrors are inclusive or exclusive, and I've seen a few obvious mistakes recently (as we live in down some very narrow lanes, car widths were of concern to my wife when we bought our other, slightly newer car!)

Honda FRV CRDI - Your views please - Archie35

Correct (I think...) - it is a Euro 4 diesel, which is still fine in most German cities (it's even got the green windscreen sticker to prove that!). But it won't be fine in the new London ULEZ.

And email noted!

Honda FRV CRDI - Your views please - Sulphur Man

We've owned a 2008 1.8 petrol auto since May 2011

In 9 and bit years one thing has failed, the lock on the glovebox.

Up until recently, I'd say the best car I ever owned was a W124 E280 estate, followed by a first gen Honda Insight (had that pre-family).

I'm now minded to say this FR-V is.The practicality is stupendous - beats any 5+2 people carrier hands down.

Another thing, it handles and rides beautifully.

Unless you absolutely have to have a diesel, get the 1.8 petrol, especially the auto. The gearing gives a nice high 5th, meaning 35mpg is easy on a run.

We will never, ever, ever, sell it.

Edited by Sulphur Man on 25/06/2020 at 16:46

Honda FRV CRDI - Your views please - badbusdriver

I didn't double-check this at the time, but I clearly recall reading car reviews when I was thinking of buying it saying that it was a touch narrower than the Golf!

FR-V, 1810mm

Golf MK5 (current in 2004 when the FR-V came out), 1759mm

Both figures exclude mirrors.

Honda FRV CRDI - Your views please - Archie35

Like I said, reviewers do sometimes seem to confuse quoted dimensions, not differentiating between with and without mirrors. But my basic comment stands - it's not as wide as people often assume, and that was often said in reviews at the time (I tend to read these things obsessively when I am buying a car!). Eg

Carbuyer "Despite its seating layout, the FR-V is in fact a tad narrower than cars like the Ford Focus C-MAX and is exactly the same width of as a Renault Scenic, itself hardly a bloater."