Apologies for taking this thread off of topic but Targen are you seeing many reliability issues with the DCT automatic and do they drive as well as a proper TC auto ? Thanks.

Hi Targen, thank you for taking the time to reply. I have driven a few DSG equipped cars and never found them as good to drive as a "proper" TC auto and also there are the numerous well known reports of failures. A colleague has Ford Focus with the Powershift DCT which failed just out of warranty so I was disappointed to see that Kia/Hyundai have gone down this route. Though as you say they are covered under warranty.

Edited by andyp on 21/04/2020 at 10:55

I don't think it is correct to say slush boxes are a dying breed..
Certainly Hyundai / Kia now seem to now favour DCT and have just switched to automated manual for the i10 / Picanto (which if you watch the YouTube video about it actually says it does jerk when changing gear and has to be driven a special way to get a decent gear change, so not a good advert.)
BUT....Ford seem to be going back to Torque Converter (slushbox) after their disastrous and costly outing with Powershift automated manuals.
Citroen / Peugeot / PSA group (so presumably now including Vauxhall) have switched to a slushbox 6 and 8 speed (denoted EAT boxes) after their less than reliable outing with what they termed an EGS box which I believe was an automated manual type of thing.

I know for fact the EAT8 box in the Citreon C5 Aircross gives good MPG as my uncle has got one, and it does far more than my Kia venga with a really old 4 speed slushbox.

New slush boxes are actually returning good mpg it seems and as technology is proven for many years now, I guess some manufacturers are just not wanting to have huge warranty payouts.

That's not to say that DCT / automated manual / CVT doesn't have its place in the auto world but Ford and PSA being mainstream makers, I thought I'd just point out that not ALL are dumping slush boxes (and Mazda I believe have always been and still are slush boxes)