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Sat nav on phone or independent screen - Lrac

First time ever I used google sat nav on my phone whilst driving in a town centre and found it to be excellent. I have never used any sat nav of any kind before.

My question, is there any advantage to be gained by purchasing a stand alone sat nav as my car does not have a screen ? I would only require UK maps if that is of any relevance. I am guessing google maps is using my phone data? Is much data consumed? presumably a basic stand alone system uses GPS to reference stored data and there is no charge (as in payment not sparkes).

Having driven for many years I am used to simply driving in the general direction of where I wish to go then muddling through once in the area. I now find that multi lane junctions and one way systems mean this isn't as simple as it used to be. It was also a pleasure not having to read every sign on approach to junctions / roundabouts etc.

Sat nav on phone or independent screen - Lrac

Suppose I should mention that I read in the kit reviews that a basic stand alone system is largely redundant if you have a decent smart phone.

Sat nav on phone or independent screen - daveyjp

It depends how busy your phone is. If you get lots of messages, emails etc they get in the way of the satnav instructions.

I use Sygic on the phone. Basic version is free and no data used, but no turn by turn instructions and it reminds you constantly with a spoken advert to get premium for turn by turn.

However I also have a standalone which I use for longer trips.

Sat nav on phone or independent screen - Lrac

Phone is not very busy and I probably wouldn't use sat nav very often. I thought that a basic system would be handy to chuck in the car but having read that basic systems are largely redundant if you have a decent phone I can't really make up my mind now. Rather wish I hadn't read the reviews first. I personally would prefer to simply have a sat nav taking care of instructions and not eating my personal data. I have no idea how much data is consumed.

I would guess instructions would only be required for the last 30-40 mins of any journey probably 5 or 6 times a year.

Sat nav on phone or independent screen - gordonbennet

I know people with unlimited data use google maps for instructions on their phone, i don't do that i just click on maps and use it for checking traffic often.

I have a professional company supplied Garmin system in the lorry, and also a Garmin standard satnav for the car, in both cases only used for directions once in a blue moon, but the one in the lorry is in use continually for traffic.

And there is the difference, the one in the lorry has digi traffic, and if you are going to buy a stand alone i suggest making sure it comes with digi (not standard or any other kind of) traffic, which is free for life, no its not as good as Google maps traffic or Waze,assuming you can make head or tail of Waze, i can't.

Some satnavs that come with traffic are still using your phone data to link up, and some others (ie TT) there is an annual charge to pay for traffic, haven't a clue about this because i can't get in with TT's at all anyway.

For my regular use of google maps i never get anywhere near using up my 5g of data, whatever 5g might mean, but if you only use the thing once in a while for satnav purposes maybe it would be worth increasing your data package for your phone anyway and cost effective, there is no doubt that Google maps traffic will make all of your journeys more pleasant with there being very little chance of encountering surprise traffic en route, the difference this makes even on my work commute is amazing, almost never get caught out now, fort either type i prefer not to have a destination entered and just put an overview up so i can keep and eye on the changing traffic situation, like you seldom need directions as such.

Sat nav on phone or independent screen - Bolt

First time ever I used google sat nav on my phone whilst driving in a town centre and found it to be excellent. I have never used any sat nav of any kind before.

My question, is there any advantage to be gained by purchasing a stand alone sat nav as my car does not have a screen ? I would only require UK maps if that is of any relevance. I am guessing google maps is using my phone data? Is much data consumed? presumably a basic stand alone system uses GPS to reference stored data and there is no charge (as in payment not sparkes).

Having driven for many years I am used to simply driving in the general direction of where I wish to go then muddling through once in the area. I now find that multi lane junctions and one way systems mean this isn't as simple as it used to be. It was also a pleasure not having to read every sign on approach to junctions / roundabouts etc.

I gather google maps uses approx. 2mb of data per 20minutes so its not much, but you can download the maps in wifi and just use GPS on the drive, as google can use the downloaded map for directions guided by GPS- no data used..

Sat nav on phone or independent screen - elekie&a/c doctor
I use Waze all the time . Free download to my iPhone. Has got me out of many sticky traffic conditions.
Sat nav on phone or independent screen - Ethan Edwards

I use waze as well.

Sat nav on phone or independent screen - Engineer Andy

20Mb per 20 mins spund like a lot of data to me, especially over a longer lourney of 5 hrs plus. I found that using a dedidcated satnav app with maps downloaded via wifi and only traffic levels and incidents gives the best combination of low cost and decent usage.

I have been using HERE Drive on my Nokia 620 Windows phone (as it was free as part of the original phone cost), but now that Microsoft don't include the live traffic updates any more, it's only useful as a mapreader app if your are driving on your own.

One other problem that using mobile phones have is that they are power hungry and thus need plugging into your car (via a USB socket or cigar lighter adapter) to use, especially on longer trips so you have a decent amount of charge left to use the phone. The cables can get in the way a bit.

Now my phone is essentially obsolete because the OS has no useful apps or compatability with most provided by banks, satnav providers, etc, I'm forced to choose whether I spend at least around £120 for another phone (the phone part of my one works fine for the most part) with Android and have to pay more for the extra bandwith to cope with Google Maps over standard satnav apps or buy an app and annual updates, or keep my phone and spend about £60 - £80 for a decent satnav unit with lifetime map updates, assuming it can be used with my phone to receive the traffic reports.

I think this often ties in with what you use your mobile phone for and the level of downloads (i.e. tarriff level) you need per month.

Sat nav on phone or independent screen - John Boy

20Mb per 20 mins spund like a lot of data to me

Bolt said 2Mb per 20 mins, not 20mb. His estimate ties in with my experience of Google Maps on an iPhone.

Sat nav on phone or independent screen - Lrac

What excellent helpful replies!! Many thanks for your great advice.

Sat nav on phone or independent screen - Bolt

One other problem that using mobile phones have is that they are power hungry and thus need plugging into your car (via a USB socket or cigar lighter adapter) to use,

That depends where you are-what phone- as some use assistive GPS which uses the phone mast to assist triangulation of where you are, if you get a weak GPS signal the mast assists which draws more current ie you know thats happening as the aerial area of phone heats up receiving the signal

also GPS is slow to react to help save power on the satellite which is easily looked up on google

Sat nav on phone or independent screen - Sparrow

Those old Windows Nokia phones were actually very capable, shame on Microsoft for killing them off. I now have a recent Android mobile, and Here works reasonably well. It uses no data as maps are stored on the phone. Fyi Here was never owned by Microsoft, Nokia kept it and has now sold it onto a consortium of German car manufacturers. However, I stll prefer a separate device, partly because it is not draining the phone battery and partly because the gps seems more reliable. I'll not forget being lost in Dijon with the phone unable to get a fix because of tall buildings. A TT works perfectly in the same environment.

Edited by Sparrow on 03/12/2019 at 19:30

Sat nav on phone or independent screen - Bolt

Those old Windows Nokia phones were actually very capable

They could have been better but Microsoft couldn't get the software right, and Apple and Android were fast overtaking windows, dont forget Nokia are still a very large company specialising in telecoms and internet 5g for one

Sat nav on phone or independent screen - Big John

I like my Tomtom 5200 with buil in Sim for traffic etc. There is no additional charge for bandwidth and lifetime world maps, traffic and speed cameras are included with the purchase price. The traffic is amazing and as well as showing traffic on your route also shows traffic on other roads. Tomtom GO is also available for a mobile - but mobiles seem to come under different laws re touching when en-route. Infact I also have Tomtom Go on my mobile that I sometimes use as a second screen showing a different view (one 3d - the other 2d overview) which syncs to the 5200 when logged into the same Tomtom account. This means the whole lot syncs to your voice commands - works a treat.

I use the Brodit system to mount the satnav to avoid having it stuck on the windscreen.

Edited by Big John on 02/12/2019 at 20:20

Sat nav on phone or independent screen - Glaikit Wee Scunner {P}

I use Waze mostly and sometimes Google maps. Waze is usually preferable as Googlemaps tends to shut down unexpectedly if the phone is touched.

Sat nav on phone or independent screen - Glaikit Wee Scunner {P}

I use Waze mostly and sometimes Google maps. Waze is usually preferable as Googlemaps tends to shut down unexpectedly if the phone is touched.

Sat nav on phone or independent screen - thunderbird

On my old phone I used to use NavFree because I had a low monthly data allowance and with NavFree all the maps were stored on the phone and updated regularly.

Worked a treat.

Not installed it on the new phone simply because I have yet to go anywhere I need a sat nav for.

Sat nav on phone or independent screen - Deft

If you use Google Maps, use the offline maps function which allows you to download pretty large areas beforehand (e.g. on your home WiFi) so that you don't need much data when navigating.

Find Google traffic routing pretty good and much more trustworthy than my Garmin or TomTom standalones ever were.

Power use depends on your phone I suppose. Mine will happily navigate 4-5 hours without external power but probably worth getting a cigarette power adaptor with a USB charging cable.

Sat nav on phone or independent screen - Smileyman

In the car I won't use satnav on the phone because the law will award me with a big fine and points if I so much as touch the handset whilst in the driver's seat ... unlike a built in satnav or freestanding unit.

Sat nav on phone or independent screen - alan1302

In the car I won't use satnav on the phone because the law will award me with a big fine and points if I so much as touch the handset whilst in the driver's seat ... unlike a built in satnav or freestanding unit.

I don't believe that is true - you can use it as long as it's in a holder/cradle rather than being held.

Sat nav on phone or independent screen - dan86

The same laws apply to sat navs as mobile phones. It has to be in a cradle and you must only operate it if safe to do so.

Sat nav on phone or independent screen - pd

The standalone satnavs are better, particularly the higher end ones with proper traffic. They are purpose designed and are just slicker to use.

However, nav on phones these days is very, very good and even just good old free Google Maps in Nav mode is really pretty solid.

So, if you occasionally need Satnav just get yourself a cradle to hold it in and some sort of power cord and it'll probably be all you ever need.

Google Maps doesn't use much data and let's be honest most people never use whatever data they are paying for and it's pretty cheap. Can't see it's an issue personally.

Sat nav on phone or independent screen - Manatee

Google Maps doesn't use much data and let's be honest most people never use whatever data they are paying for and it's pretty cheap. Can't see it's an issue personally.

I have the entire UK google maps on my phone and have loaded European ones as necessary. It's better with a data connection for the traffic but having the maps for offline use saves data.

I have a factory sat nav in my Mazda but still use my phone in a Brodit mount as Google maps knocks it into a cocked hat. I could navigate myself the 65 miles to my daughter's in Cambridge by memory but still use Google routes for the traffic - it's saved me many hours over the last few years.

Sat nav on phone or independent screen - alan1302

The standalone satnavs are better, particularly the higher end ones with proper traffic. They are purpose designed and are just slicker to use.

In what way are they better? We use the TomTom app which is just the same as they use on their standalone device but we have a larger, brighter more responsive screen.

Sat nav on phone or independent screen - dadbif
I find that Waze has far more accurate traffic reports than any other system, it bases its info on reports from other drivers using the same roads. Only problem being that you have to touch the screen to report an obstruction and thus risk a fine. Don’t know if you can update using voice...