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There COULD be a feed to a rear screen wash/wipe I suppose. Doesn't seem very likely (though not impossible) that you'd hole it with a hypodermic even if its there, and leakage would be very slow unless you were using an unusually heavy guage needle.
I think its more likely you've discovered a pre-existing leak,especially as she hasn't had the car long.
This would be a good thing (the discovery, not the leak itself, which might be a lot harder to trace than a hypordermic in a haystack).
Since its clear it isn't likely to a vital fluid, probably rainwater.
Here's HJ with one possible diagnoiss and treatment.
https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/askhj/answer/114759/our-nissan-micra-is-leaking-water-in-the-footwell---what-can-be-causing-it-
Wait and see if it dries out before assuming the worst though..
Edited by edlithgow on 13/10/2019 at 13:00
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Typical that this happens when the war dry weather has gone, just about sums up my luck too, carpet left down it could take months to dry our properly and horrid damp problems of condensation on the inside of the windows will be an issue when the temps drop below freezing.
You've got to lift the carpet and somehow prop it up, then a carefully placed small fan heater blowing directly at the wet patch, be careful about leaving it alone though, might be an opportunity to catch up on some reading for a couple of hours whilst it dries out thoroughly.
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You've got to lift the carpet and somehow prop it up, then a carefully placed small fan heater blowing directly at the wet patch,
On my bangers I used to lift the carpets, wash them, and dry them hanging over a balcony rail.. Astonishing how much filth came out.
Now I lift them and throw them away. Very liberating, but of course, not an option for the OP..
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Thanks for your reply, I'd seen a few posts about water in the front passenger footwells butt not many about leaks in the back.
Unfortunately I do not feel I have the skills or confidence to lift the carpet myself so would I take it to a garage or is there some other place I should take it.
If only it was the start of the summer I would feel more hopeful of drying it myself
Edited by Ruth Matheson on 13/10/2019 at 20:02
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Thanks for your reply, I'd seen a few posts about water in the front passenger footwells butt not many about leaks in the back. Unfortunately I do not feel I have the skills or confidence to lift the carpet myself so would I take it to a garage or is there some other place I should take it. If only it was the start of the summer I would feel more hopeful of drying it myself
Yeh, bit fiddly, and since its not your car you'd want to do an invisible job.
I'd say too fiddly to get a garage to do it at typical Yook garage rates. Possibly a car valeting outfit could dry it, though I doubt they'll want to lift the carpets.
Or perhaps you could use one of those wet and dry vacuum cleaner things yourself as a preliminary to fan and dehumidifier, assuming you can get power to the car. You might be able to hire one.
Edited by edlithgow on 14/10/2019 at 02:26
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Note that if you don't have a dehumidifier (some people don't)
But you do have a small fridge you can temporarily repurpose (some people do)
If you open the door, and put a bowl under the ice-box cooling bit,
Then you do have a dehumidifier.
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have pierced something under the carpet?
Is anyone able to tell me if any pipes or hoses with clear liquid in run under the carpet of a peugout 208 petrol car? She has only had the car for 6 weeks & I hate that I've done this
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Thanks for your reply, I'd seen a few posts about water in the front passenger footwells butt not many about leaks in the back. Unfortunately I do not feel I have the skills or confidence to lift the carpet myself so would I take it to a garage or is there some other place I should take it. If only it was the start of the summer I would feel more hopeful of drying it myself
I should have explained more clearly, sorry, you don't need to remove the carpet completely which could involve removing seats or gearlever/handbrake housing, simply prise it up from the sill edge and from under the pedals, then prop it up with screwdivers or whatever comes to hand that won't melt from the heat, then position the fan heater to blow straight at the floor and the carpet which will now dry out as the warm air circulates.
Yes to vacuuming it first with a wet n dry machine, that will take a lot of moisture out.
Depending on what sort of fan heater is available it might be sensible to keep an eye on it, hence i suggested taking something to read whilst you sit in one of the other seats, whilst drying its possible the props could slip and the carpet drop down on the heater, so sensible not to just leave it to its own devices for hours on end, you'll be surprised how quickly it will dry once you take the worst of the water out and lift the carpet...if you have an integral garage that benefits from the heat of the house a couple of days with just the carpet propped up would probably do the trick without a heater.
Check the rear floor too, the water might have flowed under there too, same action to sort.
Edited by gordonbennet on 14/10/2019 at 09:50
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Thank you for all your advice.
I'm concerned that I cause more damage & since it's my daughters car I think it's time to take it to a garage.
Thanks again
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Thank you for all your advice. I'm concerned that I cause more damage & since it's my daughters car I think it's time to take it to a garage. Thanks again
Apologies for being a nag, but I.d say again that IF you are going to go to pro's, (bit premature IMO, though I can understand your concern) a car valetting service might be a better choice.
It's a bit of a waste of a mechanics skill set to be mopping up, and might be quite expensive.
If you had a known leak that needed tracing it'd be more appropriate, but that isn't (yet) the case.
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Thank you for all your advice. I'm concerned that I cause more damage & since it's my daughters car I think it's time to take it to a garage.
I think the chance of perforating anything containing water under your car's carpet with a syringe must be close to zero. Pipework on a car usually runs under the floor, and if I managed to extract water from under a car's carpet I would assume it was rainwater from (a) a window being left open, (b) faulty waterproofing in an inner door behind the 'door-card', (c) leaks round a door or tailgate, or (d) just possibly from the heater matrix.
I have once stripped a car interior by removing all the weatherseals round the doors, the seatbelts and the seats and any other trim fitted over the carpet. After that some saturated sound insulation was replaced. I suspect modern cars are put together in a less DiY-friendly way, but it could be done. Labour-intensive so probably costly at a garage. A more important worry may be wet electricals in out-of-the-way places.
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Thank you for all your advice. I'm concerned that I cause more damage & since it's my daughters car I think it's time to take it to a garage. Thanks again
I'd think a rinse with fairly strong alcohol (surgical spirit stylee) would help, if you have access to it. Available from pharmacists and hardware stores fairly cheaply here in Taiwan but might be expensive in the UK.
Water mixes well with it, and when you remove the mix (by mopping, syringing, or wet-hoovering) you also remove the water.
Its gentle on plastics, and it evaporates quite quickly, but until diluted it is a fire hazard, and the vapour could get you drunk.
Don't use denatured alcohol / methylated spirit which has methanol in it and would be too toxic in an enclosed space.
Edited by edlithgow on 15/10/2019 at 14:45
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I used to own a Vauxhall viva that had a very bad leak around the windscreen, the “engineers” at Vauxhall’s had thoughtfully provided a grommet in the floor pan each side, remove that and the water just flowed away, rubber mats helped too, non absorbent..,
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Yeh, I removed those and the carpets for my first monsoon and never put them back. Drains, and dries much quicker and can be easily rust treated if necessary
It does give rats easy access though, and they pull plastic and paper into the sill through the exposed inner sill cutouts.
The latter happened after I discovered the little sill drain plugs and removed them too. Lot of water drained out.
Before that I had a little frog colony over the summer.
I wired flattened beer cans both sides of the drain holes as a rat barrier, and keep moving he car so they don't get too comfortable.
That works for ants too.
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Or perhaps you could use one of those wet and dry vacuum cleaner things yourself as a preliminary to fan and dehumidifier, assuming you can get power to the car. You might be able to hire one.
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Why the plagiarisim?
I get enough of that from Taiwanese students
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