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n/a - Do politicians read this forum? - focussed

Sajid Javid announces more spending on roads.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1184253/tory-party-conference-2019-sajid-javid-broadband

Maybe HJ forum is influencing government policy, re recent thread on south coast roads - who knows?

n/a - Do politicians read this forum? - RichT54

Or the tories are just promising billions to anyone and everyone that might possibly vote for them in the inevitable upcoming election.

n/a - Do politicians read this forum? - gordonbennet

Or the tories are just promising billions to anyone and everyone that might possibly vote for them in the inevitable upcoming election.

I thought that was core socialist/illiberal policy, sadly they inevitably run out of other people's money to spend, fear not some more money trees are due for planting in Croydon..:-)

None of them read or listen to anything the general public have to to say, the only time they are interested in what the public have to say is when they show a little well practiced feigned interest in the lead up to an election when they want your vote after which you can get back in your proletariat box.

As for the roads, successive govts of all hues have for well over the past 20 years in particular kicked the overwhelmed infrastructure (not just the roads) can down the road into someone else's court, we will not make up for ignoring the problem for 20+ years by waxing lyrical about a south coast by pass, or allowing traffic to drive on a widened hard shoulder, we are in serious trouble as country and it's going to take 20 or more years to put right even at todays population level which is nothing compared to what the level will be in an other two decades, and that's if we get a proper govt/parliament after the next election, some hopes of that.

n/a - Do politicians read this forum? - Bromptonaut

I thought that was core socialist/illiberal policy, sadly they inevitably run out of other people's money to spend, fear not some more money trees are due for planting in Croydon..:-)

There's an election in the air. Indeed, were it not for the Fixed Term Parliament Act stopping exactly the sort of mischief it was supposed to we'd now be in mid campaign.

While I'll take GB's comment in the spirit it was meant the Tories promises deserve particular scrutiny.

This is the party of safe money, of fiscal rectitude. The people who forced austerity on us because of the supposed over spending of the Blair/Brown era. And, albeit far later than promised and at cost to society which is well evidenced by Foodbanks etc, they have actually reduced the deficit.

So now, cornered by the Brexit FUBAR of their own making and prospect of needing to take northern seats off labour they want to spens, spend, spend. At same time they're promising billions in tax cuts by raising threshold for higher rate tax.

Now unless they raise taxes somewhere else the only way is to borrow....

You couldn't make it up.

n/a - Do politicians read this forum? - Andrew-T

Now unless they raise taxes somewhere else the only way is to borrow....

You couldn't make it up.

You don't need to make it up, something like it usually happens at election time.

n/a - Do politicians read this forum? - Andrew-T

Or the tories are just promising billions to anyone and everyone that might possibly vote for them in the inevitable upcoming election.

That's all it is, an early salvo in the electioneering stakes. Of course when/if they win, all such pledges are quietly shelved. Beats me why they keep telling us they will implement the big one they made in 2017 - you know, the one BJ keeps harping on about ?

n/a - Do politicians read this forum? - Middleman

Please don't start a Brexit thread on here !!!!!

n/a - Do politicians read this forum? - concrete

Or the tories are just promising billions to anyone and everyone that might possibly vote for them in the inevitable upcoming election.

A trifle cynical Rich. I believe at present that all parties are furiously promising anything that springs into their tiny minds. Mostly of course they can do that for they have more chance of a ride on Flipper than being elected.

Meanwhile back at the thread. The prospect of a South Coast motorway has been mooted several times and always ditched on cost grounds. Likewise the supposed extension of the M11 onward to the Humber Bridge. These would all be desirable and certainly would improve those areas and simultaneously take some of the strain off existing routes. The only problem is that joined up thinking and Government are poor bedfellows.

Cheers Concrete

n/a - Do politicians read this forum? - Smileyman

never sure if the real problem is the politician or the civil servants who serve them, some of the decisions with roads policy (wider policy) smacks of ministers being told what they ought to want to decide ... smart motorways for instance.

n/a - Do politicians read this forum? - focussed

And don't forget the snails:-

“Highways England confirmed that the current study to relocate a protected species of snail that live in ditches along this section of the road is not in any way a blocker to the dualling of the Acle Straight."

The Acle straight is that part of the A47 which is the western approach to GT Yarmouth.

When I lived in the area, the excuse for not dualling the road was the water voles that lived in the roadside ditches.

A local who lived in one of the few houses along there observed " There aren't any voles living in the ditches because the water is contaminated with diesel pollution run-off all year plus road salt in winter"

https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/politics/when-will-work-start-on-dualling-the-acle-straight-1-5896904

n/a - Do politicians read this forum? - Engineer Andy

Both are the problem. I've seen this first hand and why I asked my employers not to allocate public sector projects (some sectors in particular) where at all possible.

n/a - Do politicians read this forum? - Bromptonaut

Or the tories are just promising billions to anyone and everyone that might possibly vote for them in the inevitable upcoming election.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/sep/30/tories-spending-sajid-javid

n/a - Do politicians read this forum? - galileo

Or the tories are just promising billions to anyone and everyone that might possibly vote for them in the inevitable upcoming election.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/sep/30/tories-spending-sajid-javid

Of course, Labour wouldn't stoop to the same plan by promising everyone a four day week with no reduction in pay, would they? Oh, wait a minute ---

n/a - Do politicians read this forum? - SLO76

Or the tories are just promising billions to anyone and everyone that might possibly vote for them in the inevitable upcoming election.

The failings of full democracy unfortunately. If you give everyone a vote, including those who don’t contribute or understand how the public finances work then you ultimately doom us all to a race to the debt pile bottom. Even the Tories are at it. Every fully democratic nation on the planet is guilty of this. We vote based on giveaways of money borrowed in our own names! It’s utter madness and will lead to decline and the ruination of the western way of life as the likes of China come to dominate the global economy thanks to them not having to bribe their way to power every few years. I’m not saying I support the one party state or anything but bribery politics has got to end or we’ll destroy our nation. I’d suggest a small questionnaire with a few simple questions on the economy and how public finances work which must be answered before allowing anyone into a polling booth. That and the removal of the right to vote from the longterm unemployed and by that I’m not meaning the retired or those with genuine health issues.
n/a - Do politicians read this forum? - gordonbennet
bribery politics has got to end or we’ll destroy our nation.

Could not agree more, not to mention the irresistible magnet to untold numbers of those from other countries desperate to join in.

For decades now i've been fed up to the back teeth trying to work out which is the least dangerous of the parties standing.

This coming election will be different from all that have gone on before, millions have come to realise just what an utter shower are currently in both parliaments, those with honour and integrity becoming rarer by the year, but what is now more apparent to whole swathes of the country is the contempt so many in parl have for the electorate, things will never be the same again.

n/a - Do politicians read this forum? - Snakey

Personally I don't want to see any more spending on roads, around here every multi million £ major project has taken ages to complete and without fail, has resulted in increased delays.

The local authorities are generally incapable of the simplest road works, or applying any logic to the situation - so please, just leave the roads alone and stop introducing half cocked over priced schemes!

I shall simply let the roads deteriorate and I'll eventually buy an old Defender when the potholes are big enough.

n/a - Do politicians read this forum? - Terry W

Politicians may or may not read this forum, but their priorities are governed by a number of fundamental immutable rules:

  1. Will the policy help me win the next election
  2. Will the punters vote for me
  3. Will the actions proposed help me win the next election
  4. Will more voters love me than hate me
  5. Is the proposal compliant with the politically correct
  6. Can I find some stretched statistics to support the policy
  7. Will I be caught out .................

100 Is it actually the right thing to do for the country/my constituents