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Volkswagen Golf - VW Group's junk 1.5 petrol engine - daveyK_UK

Admin,

posting a link to auto express who under much pressure from readers have caved in and reported on the problem; although there article is some what weak - nothing for months on this issue from honest john website

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/107558/juddering-vw-group-cars-no-end-in-sight-for-owners

Volkswagen Golf - VW Group's junk 1.5 petrol engine - daveyjp
And I bet when they next do a group test with any VAG car and a 1.5 engine no mention is made of this potential issue.

My car was MOT'd this morning (it passed) and I was looking through a few Autoexpress magazines from this year. In all the tests ownership problems, or results from their own reliability surveys are never mentioned.
Volkswagen Golf - VW Group's junk 1.5 petrol engine - Engineer Andy

Like most MSM car magaines and journalists writing for newspapers (HJ aside), they, IMHO are afraid that giving what is very bad publicity to a brand they depend on for ad revenue (and probably for many mags, the difference between them surviving in the short-to-medium term term or not).

The same, in my view, can be said nowadays for similar media outlets in the entertainment industry, especially TV and film. Many of those media outlets who regularly give undeserved praise and don't cover negative issues are now coined to be the 'shill media' or 'access media', the latter because they give gushing reviews in return for press passes, freebies and all-expenses-paid junkets to film and TV premieres an parties.

Remind you of another set of 'journalists' who are flown all over the world and wined and dined in return for positive reviews?

And they wonder why independent media outlets online are rapidly gaining in popularity as the MSM's star falls?

Edited by Engineer Andy on 17/08/2019 at 13:36

Volkswagen Golf - VW Group's junk 1.5 petrol engine - Chris M

I browse Auto Express and Autocar via the library services emagazine service. Wouldn't pay for either tbh.

AE group tested estate versions of the Octavia, Ceed and Mégane last week. The Skoda was the 1.5 TSI. No mention of any problem. And it goes without saying the walk on water VAG product came 1st. VAG only have to change the colour of seat material for these publications to run a two page article.

Volkswagen Golf - VW Group's junk 1.5 petrol engine - SLO76
This is why I’ve largely lost interest in reading new car mags. They review cars without any regard to the longterm ownership prospects. Reliability and quality are vital for owner satisfaction but instead they’re interested in grip and handling prowess over anything else. The horrendous list prices of new cars only puts me off further.
Volkswagen Golf - VW Group's junk 1.5 petrol engine - Andrew-T
This is why I’ve largely lost interest in reading new car mags. They review cars without any regard to the longterm ownership prospects.

Without wishing to play devil's advocate, I don't see what else the journos can do. They usually review new models which by definition have no history to criticise, unless they are only a facelift. The 6-month or 12-month reviews should have some value I suppose. But it's not realistic to expect any serious criticisms, for obvious reasons.

Volkswagen Golf - VW Group's junk 1.5 petrol engine - Datsun Dave

HJ did a story on this a few weeks back...

https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/news/new-cars/2019-07/no-end-in-sight-for-volkswagen-15-tsi-engine-problems/

Edited by Datsun Dave on 17/08/2019 at 14:50

Volkswagen Golf - VW Group's junk 1.5 petrol engine - groaver

nothing for months on this issue from honest john website

To be fair to HJ he has mentioned it on quite a few occasions and as stated above the site did have an article on it.

I asked him personally last year why I couldn't get an Ibiza with the 1.5 engine when it had been listed on their site and brochures previously.

He advised then that there was potentially a problem with the engine though he had nothing concrete to confirm this at that time.

He has been consistent about the engine ever since on the website.

Edited by groaver on 18/08/2019 at 15:27

Volkswagen Golf - VW Group's junk 1.5 petrol engine - Falkirk Bairn

VW certainly do not have to eek out problems

Dieselgate & potential EU fines on top of the USA money - So far about $50Bn - getting near BP's Gulf of Mexico explosion. At least BP could sell assets to pay off the fines - not so easy for VW.

DSG is still an issue

& now their key selling petrol engine in the news for all the wrong reasons.

Volkswagen Golf - VW Group's junk 1.5 petrol engine - Miniman777

My own take on this is on one hand, the reviewer has, IMO, an obligation to be honest and forthright to his/her audience whether it be a review about a £20,000 car or a pair of hifi speakers costing £150.

Not working in the motoring media, it is impossible to know about how manufacturer/journalist/magazine relationships work (who is in who's pocket), and I'd also seriously question how much advertising revenue income (or cars for personal/family use) plays a key part in the decision by the journo (and his editor) not to give an adverse review.

I work in publishing, handle product reviews for small scale items. An example of the 'difficulty' is because a reviewer was critical of a DVD, the DVD producer withdrew all advertising. To me, this was his loss, he took his ball home and missed a target audience of 45-50,000 readers, but my loyalty is to the readers who will buy these products.

There was a major court case back in 1994 when the designers of a trimaran sued a well known magazine and won £1.5m in damages following a critical review of the boat, which the jury felt contained a number of inaccuracies. I worked for another part of the company at that time and recall missives were sent out about the need for fair, unbiased and accurate product reviews.

So I can understand the caution being used by magazine and website owners whose pockets may not be deep as VW's if push came to shove.

That said, the delay in finding a solution really begs the question whether VW has a solution, yet you can still configure a car today with that 1.5TSi engine, which I find as odd. Lots of questions (such as did this occur during testing), but not many answers.

Edited by Miniman777 on 18/08/2019 at 18:37

Volkswagen Golf - VW Group's junk 1.5 petrol engine - catsdad
As others have said, HJ has covered it as a news item. However a quick look at the Golf and Leon "car by car" shows no mention. Unless I've missed it?

The latest road test of the 1.5 Golf calls the engine "excellent".

Odd.

Volkswagen Golf - VW Group's junk 1.5 petrol engine - AndrewBrady

Nothing more sinister than an oversight on our part. One I've now fixed...

Regards,

Andrew

New Cars Editor, HonestJohn.co.uk

Volkswagen Golf - VW Group's junk 1.5 petrol engine - Engineer Andy

Nothing more sinister than an oversight on our part. One I've now fixed...

Regards,

Andrew

New Cars Editor, HonestJohn.co.uk

Especially as HJ himself said in his take on the 1.5EVO problem that apparently the original test vehicle abroad was 'tweaked' by VW engineers so that the 'kangerooing effect' was nullified for the test day, but he found out later on, well after it was tested.

You have to wonder either why that 'fix' wasn't applied to production models or if that fix was illegal in the EU and thus they (once again) cheated. Especially as the problem has still yet to be fixed, it begs the question as to whether any change in the management of the R&D dept at board level has had any positive effect on what they do post-Dieselgate.

It doesn't look like it has, at least to me.

Volkswagen Golf - VW Group's junk 1.5 petrol engine - SLO76
When I worked for a local Mitsubishi and Proton dealer I was left in charge of advertising with the local press. There were two local papers at the time the major one would often call asking for cars to do reviews on and we could always guarantee it would be very favourable, in fact it was nothing more than a free advert as a thank you for our money week to week.

The smaller local paper had a young lad working as their motoring corespondent and he was out to make a name for himself Jeremy Clarkson style. He actually knew his stuff and would often heavily criticise cars he didn’t like often overly harshly in my view. The cars he was testing weren’t track day toys but ordinary family vehicles so his focus on grip and handling were largely irrelevant. His negative review of our then new Proton franchises facelift Persona range saw his paper lose our business for good and many others followed suit.

I think he was trying too hard but the point is that it’s who pays the bills that controls the media. If a magazine is overly critical of a particular brand they’ll lose any revenue from them.
Volkswagen Golf - VW Group's junk 1.5 petrol engine - Will deBeast

I had looked to buying a freelander2 when they first came out.

What Car had one on long term test, and it had a fault which kept it in the garage for several weeks. They still raved about it. I decided that my buying priorities were different to theirs.