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Abarth Grande Punto - Car paint , pros and cons of metallic over non - trebor1
I used to professionally spray cars using good old cellulose paint in the 1980s . Brilliant stuff if you got a run you could wet flat and polish and it looked amazing. I left the body trade in the early 90s so forgive my lack of knowledge now .

Fast forward to 2019 and I think most car paints are now water based. So with modern paints what is best for durability and repair ability and why?

Metallic

Flat colours ( white , red , yellow etc)

We used to say non metallics were best to colour match and blend is this still the case ? But metallics were more durable due to the extra clear coat. However having got bird poo stains on one of my (2014) metallic cars that’s actually eaten through the lacquer and into the base colour im thinking Maybe not?? Any views?
Abarth Grande Punto - Car paint , pros and cons of metallic over non - Big John
I used to professionally spray cars using good old cellulose paint in the 1980s . Brilliant stuff.
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However having got bird poo stains on one of my (2014) metallic cars that’s actually eaten through the lacquer and into the base colour im thinking Maybe not?? Any views?

I remember using good old cellulose paint when restoring cars - fantastic stuff in the day.

As you say fast forward to today an paints/lacquer are now water based and as you have discovered to things like bird poo stains!

I'd still say some flat colours are still the easiest to match especially white, although red/yellow can alway be a problem due to fading that can vary at different parts of a car body.

I don't do car body repairs/restorations these days but myself I think some colours seem more hardwearing than others. I've had two silver metallic cars and they have seemed to be more hard wearing compared to another dark green metallic car both of which had a clear coat. Somehow the green car paint seemed "softer"

Abarth Grande Punto - Car paint , pros and cons of metallic over non - SLO76
With the superior rest protection modern cars have its less of a worry but in the 80’s and 90’s metallic paint resisted the ravages of time better than non-metallic. Base red still fades though and lacquer peel is still an issue particularly in Japanese cars which is one of the few weak points. I still see fairly modern Honda’s and Toyota’s suffering peel and red examples fading very early. The Europeans still show the way here. I wouldn’t be too concerned either way if you buy a nice example and give it a polish from time to time it’ll retain its looks well into old age. The paint on both my 7yr old Polo (white) and 9yr old Avensis (grey metallic) is in excellent condition with no peeling and no visible rust at all.

Edited by SLO76 on 29/04/2019 at 22:42

Abarth Grande Punto - Car paint , pros and cons of metallic over non - trebor1
So is there a clear coat over white cars now? Ive avoided red (flat) cars for years due to fading
Abarth Grande Punto - Car paint , pros and cons of metallic over non - paul 1963
So is there a clear coat over white cars now? Ive avoided red (flat) cars for years due to fading

My last car was pearl white and defently had a clear coat, I thought all modern paint needed a clear coat ???

Abarth Grande Punto - Car paint , pros and cons of metallic over non - focussed

Cars made in the far east have better quality paint because anything made in europe has to be be painted with water based paint, in the far east they still use solvent based paint.

Abarth Grande Punto - Car paint , pros and cons of metallic over non - FP

I know that the Soul Red on my Mazda (a metallic colour) has a tinted final lacquer coat and is apparently a very tricky colour to match.

Abarth Grande Punto - Car paint , pros and cons of metallic over non - Engineer Andy
With the superior rest protection modern cars have its less of a worry but in the 80’s and 90’s metallic paint resisted the ravages of time better than non-metallic. Base red still fades though and lacquer peel is still an issue particularly in Japanese cars which is one of the few weak points. I still see fairly modern Honda’s and Toyota’s suffering peel and red examples fading very early. The Europeans still show the way here. I wouldn’t be too concerned either way if you buy a nice example and give it a polish from time to time it’ll retain its looks well into old age. The paint on both my 7yr old Polo (white) and 9yr old Avensis (grey metallic) is in excellent condition with no peeling and no visible rust at all.

Weird - I've seen far more European cars of the base red colour that are faded than Japanese ones, the worst being 1990s to mid 2000s Vauxhalls. I think that most Post Office vans are Euro ones of many varieties, and very few of those are not faded, even the latest ones. It could be certain shades of red that are more susceptible, e.g. Post Office red and lighter, rather than darker shades.