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BMW 3 Series Touring - Need advice on buying a BMW 3 series - Ryan Fawcett-Fowles

So I have my heart set on buying a 3 series tourer

My dilemma is picking an engine? i'm looking at spending up to £5k, maybe a little more if something fantastic shows up, so realistically looking in the 2008 ish region, I thought a 320d would be a safe bet, but looking into all the timing chain issues with the N47 engine, i'm a little nervous about it

I study at the university of Cardiff, but work/live all around the south west so often doing a mix of drives between 10 minutes and 4 hours, 10k ish miles per year

Every forum I read tends to disregard anything below 3 litre, often saying the 320i engine is underpowered? I currently drive a 2003 1.4 astra, and feel i'm not really going to be disappointed with this engine? but is it worth looking for a minimum of a 325i/325d?

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BMW 3 Series Touring - Need advice on buying a BMW 3 series - Metropolis.
Youll most likely get told to buy japanese petrol hatchback (honda jazz!) on here whilst being lectured on bmw being money pits as they age and complex diesel engines.. I suggest you post a similar question on a BMW forum, they’ll have more specific knowledge. Good luck!
BMW 3 Series Touring - Need advice on buying a BMW 3 series - elekie&a/c doctor
I think I would stick with your Astra . Far more reliable than anything built after 2005 by BMW.
BMW 3 Series Touring - Need advice on buying a BMW 3 series - sandy56

We found our 318I to be OK and the 320i to be fast enough.

They can be money pits so be warned.

A Honda or Toyota would be a cheaper, boring, bet that shouldnt let you down.

BMW 3 Series Touring - Need advice on buying a BMW 3 series - badbusdriver

Every forum I read tends to disregard anything below 3 litre, often saying the 320i engine is underpowered?

The problem here is quite possibly that if you look at the 'good/bad' section of the relevant review on this site, you will find that the 4 cyl diesel and petrol models seem to be the ones most afflicted by problems. Whereas 6 cyl petrols, like (but not exclusively) the 3.0 seem to generally be the most reliable.

A Honda or Toyota would be a cheaper, boring, bet that shouldnt let you down.

Obviously this will be down to personal opinion, but, in mine, a BMW 318 or 320 would be no less 'boring' than a Honda or Toyota. In fact, i'd say in all honesty that i'd consider a MK7 (2003-2009) Honda Accord a much more interesting (not to mention much more reliable) choice than the BMW (especially the 2.4 but even the 2.0). I'd also be looking at the Mazda 6, which is a good looking, reliable car which drives well.

BMW 3 Series Touring - Need advice on buying a BMW 3 series - Meteiro

Having run a 320d touring through to 7 years and 80k, I can tell you I had precisely zero issues with the chain or with the engine. Or, to be honest, any other non wear and tear item. Absolutely reliable and was fun to drive. No DPF issues either, despite mostly short runs. That's not to say there are not plenty that have issues, but i didn't (and I maintained it well).

That said, owning one really is death by a thousand cuts. The car 'told' me to go back to the dealers with unerring regularity for this or that check or part change. Brake pads and discs all round every other year (not cheap). Run flat tyres seem to be made of cheese and needed replacement well under 20k, and constantly picked up nails. I bought at least one new tyre every six months for the length of owning the car. Maybe just unlucky. And they are staggered front and back, with wider rears; a full set from a premium brand will set you back at least £700 (not from the dealer!)

The clutch (and DMF, as you might as well do both as the labour cost is massive) was quoted at a whopping £2k from a dealer, which was the point at which I decided to get something else.

I would say all in, it cost me a good average £2k+ per year just keeping it on the road, which is not chicken feed! Great car to drive and economical for what it is, but owning one is not cheap.

BMW 3 Series Touring - Need advice on buying a BMW 3 series - madf

Having run a 320d touring through to 7 years and 80k, I can tell you I had precisely zero issues with the chain or with the engine. Or, to be honest, any other non wear and tear item. Absolutely reliable and was fun to drive. No DPF issues either, despite mostly short runs. That's not to say there are not plenty that have issues, but i didn't (and I maintained it well).

That said, owning one really is death by a thousand cuts. The car 'told' me to go back to the dealers with unerring regularity for this or that check or part change. Brake pads and discs all round every other year (not cheap). Run flat tyres seem to be made of cheese and needed replacement well under 20k, and constantly picked up nails. I bought at least one new tyre every six months for the length of owning the car. Maybe just unlucky. And they are staggered front and back, with wider rears; a full set from a premium brand will set you back at least £700 (not from the dealer!)

The clutch (and DMF, as you might as well do both as the labour cost is massive) was quoted at a whopping £2k from a dealer, which was the point at which I decided to get something else.

I would say all in, it cost me a good average £2k+ per year just keeping it on the road, which is not chicken feed! Great car to drive and economical for what it is, but owning one is not cheap.

My oldest son found the same running a well mainatained 318i. £1k new pads and disks, then new ignition coils etc..

You need loadsofmoney to run an elderly BMW as a daily runner and using someone else to maintain it. Garages see £££s in their eyes when you roll up.

BMW 3 Series Touring - Need advice on buying a BMW 3 series - SLO76
The four cylinder models are more prone to problems than the sixes, particularly timing chain issues. They’re heavy on suspension components also and don’t take kindly to being run on a budget or serviced by Joe Spanner Monkey in his oil soaked back street workshop.

Unless you can up the budget substantially, are prepared to pay the additional fuel costs for a 6cyl petrol and you’re able and willing to fund the champagne lifestyle of a decent BMW specialist then forget BMW until your funds match your ambition.

Yes I am going to recommend a much more robust and simple Japanese car instead. A Honda Accord or Mazda 6 with bulletproof chain driven (not made from cheese like the BMW’s) petrol motor will offer decent driver enjoyment, more space and greater comfort than a 3 series plus your £5k will get a good one.

Edited by SLO76 on 26/04/2019 at 23:45

BMW 3 Series Touring - Need advice on buying a BMW 3 series - pd

The 4 cylinder engines are not more prone to chain issues. They use the same chain design on both N series engines.

It's just that for every 6 cylinder they sold, they sold about 10 4 cylinders so the issues appear far more common on them.

BMW 3 Series Touring - Need advice on buying a BMW 3 series - SLO76

The 4 cylinder engines are not more prone to chain issues. They use the same chain design on both N series engines.

It's just that for every 6 cylinder they sold, they sold about 10 4 cylinders so the issues appear far more common on them.

Every BMW specialist I’ve spoken to would disagree but they do suggest that the sixes are maybe better in part due to the fact most will be better maintained by wealthier possibly private owners while the cheaper models are often fleet hacks on 2yr oil changes then owned by people on a limited budget. Plausible as a reason.

Edited by SLO76 on 27/04/2019 at 13:03